[R-390] A vs non A
2002tii
bmw2002tii at nerdshack.com
Sat Oct 13 15:26:17 EDT 2012
Roger wrote:
>R390 IF's are no more complex than the R390/A
>Either can be done very well with a simple signal generator and volt meter.
>
>The Sweep generator myth is in with moster gold plated Audio cable.
>Can I sell you some old bridge stock? I have original paper certificates.
Actually, if you want to adjust 390 IFs to factory alignment (linear
phase, maximally-flat, constant group delay), sweep alignment really
is a practical necessity. The reason is that 390 IFs are not
strictly "stagger tuned," as that term is conventionally used by
filter designers. Stagger tuning (strictly defined) refers to
broadening the passband of a multi-stage filter (like an IF) by
peaking various stages at slightly different frequencies. Imagine
drawing a single, peaked response curve at the IF center frequency,
then drawing two more, offset to the left and right so that the upper
-3 dB point of each filter coincides with the lower -3 dB point of
the next higher filter. Now, imagine the overall response of the
chain -- it will more or less follow the skirts of the upper and
lower offset filters, and the top will be a wavy line that averages
the three filter responses. (I just used coinciding -3 dB points as
an example. In practice, the offset frequencies could be chosen so
that the -1 dB, or -0.5 dB, or other close-in attenuation points
coincide, or so the -1 dB points of the offset filters coincide with
the -3 dB points of the center filter, or ... on and on.) Some
people stagger tune 390A IFs to make sure the overall response is
wider than the widest mechanical filter, and instructions have been
published and are available for doing that.
This "true" stagger tuned IF can be tuned (to a reasonable
approximation) with a sig gen and voltmeter, because each stage is
peaked at some frequency. If you know what frequency each stage is
supposed to be tuned to, you can change the sig gen frequency to each
of these frequencies in turn and peak the appropriate
stage. However, this only gets you to an approximation because it
assumes that the Q of each stage is the same as the design value. If
it isn't (and it probably won't be, at least not to high precision),
you won't get the -3 dB points (or whatever alignment points it was
designed for) to exactly coincide, so the passband ripple will not be
optimized. To optimize the passband ripple, sweep tuning is a
practical necessity even for a "true" stagger-tuned IF.
Note the term "passband ripple." Therein lies the limitation of
"true" stagger tuning -- it results in passband ripple, not a true
linear-phase, constant group delay response.
The linear-phase, constant group delay response of the 390 IFs is not
achieved this way. Rather, each stage is centered on the nominal IF
frequency, but some stage pairs are undercoupled for a peak response,
and others are overcoupled for two peaks with a valley at the center
frequency. Perhaps this should be called "stagger coupled." By
adjusting the coupling, a maximally flat, linear-phase, constant
group delay response can be achieved. Because all of the filters are
tuned to the center frequency, and some are not peaked, but rather
overcoupled with two peaks and a valley, there can be no list of
frequencies where each stage should be peaked. One might think that
you could instead specify the depth of the valley of the overcoupled
stages instead, and you can -- but you can only measure this with
those two stages in isolation, not with the IF strip in the radio,
because the response of the other stage couplings makes the overall
measurement worthless for tuning the individual stage pairs. (Even
with the stages isolated, this would be very tedious with a sig gen
and voltmeter -- you would need to find and measure the
center-frequency response, find and measure each peak, adjust the
coupling, repeat, repeat, repeat, ....)
So, one may call the 390 IF "stagger tuned" using that term loosely,
but it is not truly stagger-tuned in the sense that each stage is
peaked at a certain frequency. And there is no practicable procedure
for tuning "stagger coupled" filters, like the 390 IF, without
sweeping them. This is presumably why the 390A manuals caution you
not to undertake the procedure they provide unless the IFs are AFU
and you are desperate -- it will not return the IF strip to its
proper maximally flat, linear-phase, constant group delay response,
but it may get the radio back on the air.
Best regards,
Don
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