[R-390] "all relative"
Webb, Gary
glwebb at gundluth.org
Wed Aug 22 08:36:26 EDT 2012
And I weighed 137 when Susan and I were married 38 years back. This is a track we shouldn't go down.
Gary L Webb NI9V
I guess it's all relative, when I got married 30 years ago my wife weighed 121 pounds.
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:19:45 -0400
From: Barry <n4buq at knology.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] EAC Contract info in Red Bank Paper
To: "Marshall Dues (K5MMD)" <mmdues at gmail.com>, "Ben Loper"
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... and what size belt did you wear then vs. now? ;-)
Barry - N4BUQ
On Tue 21/08/12 12:52 PM , Ben Loper brloper at gmail.com sent:
> I guess it's all relative, when I got married 30 years ago my wife
> weighed 121 pounds.
>
> On 8/21/12, Marshall Dues (K5MMD) mmdues at gmail .com> wrote:> I got out
> of the navy in 1964, and returned to my home in the Flint,> Michigan
> area. Minimum wage then was $.90 or $1.00 per hour. Flint is a>
> General Motors town consisting of Buick, Chevrolet, Chevrolet Frame &>
> Stamping, Fisher Body, AC Spark Plug, and Ternstedt Parts Mfg. All
> union.> The United Auto Workers wage for assembly line workers was
> $2.65 per hour,> with a shift premium of $.25 per hour. My navy pay
> was around $78.00 per> month, so, although I swore I would Never work
> in the factories, I was> employed at Buick as an assembly line worker
> on the third shift. I was> making over a Hundred Dollars a Week! and
> thought I was finally pooping in> tall cotton for the first time in my
> life.>
> > In 1966, several important things in life (to me)
> were in some sort of> harmony: A new Jaguar XKE sports car cost
> $6,600.00, a new Cessna 150> airplane cost $6,700.00 and my Union
> wages for the year was around> $6,500.00 gross. Take home pay was
> obviously less because of taxes, union> dues, and other deductions. I
> was single, living in an apartment that cost> me $16.00 per week, and
> I had recently purchased a new Buick LeSabre 400> fastback (that I
> myself assembled and walked down the assembly line on my> shift) that
> had a list price of $3,456.20, but I remember paying $2,900 or> so for
> it (I still have the window sticker somewhere).>
> > I was taking private pilot flying lessons, and
> decided to not buy the> Jaguar XKE or the new Cessna 150, but I did
> purchase my first airplane, a> 1946 Aeronca model 7AC "Champ" for
> $1,200.00. I flew that plane for over> 800 hours and even flew it
> down here to the Houston area in 1969.>
> > I mention these figures to illustrate what the
> costs associated with life> in the early '60s were for the wants and
> needs of a young man with only a> high school education and military
> service behind him. Life was "sort of"> good at that time, but
> because of the decline in the quality of life in> Flint, Michigan, I
> left for Northwest airlines in Detroit. (Better pay,> although still
> union). Good technical schooling (I was an avionics> technician in the
> aviation industry for the next 25 years (including ARAMCO> aviation department in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia).
> Today, Flint, Michigan (and> Michigan in general) is an economic
> cesspool of corruption, greed and> Chicago style politics. ALL of
> those hundred year old automobile factories> have been scraped of the
> face of the earth. It's still a union only state,> but there are very few jobs to be had.
> >
> > The Collins R-390 series of radios at $1,000 -
> $1,300 were out of my reach> at the time, but are a bargain at most
> prices today. As Roger says: you> need at least TWO of them. More is
> better. It's a great receiver.>
> > Sorry to ramble, but this old man is starting to
> live in the past, these> days.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Marshall M. Dues, K5MMD, (ex WN8DIM, WA8PEX,
> WA5ZEP, WB5MYO)> Collins R-390As, ART-13, URC-32B, S-line, ARINC
> avionics, plus a hundred or> more of the Hallicrafters, National,
> Hammarlund, Gonset, Morrow, Drake,> Swan, Heath, Knight, and many
> other classics saved from the land fill by a> young man who actually
> Learned about Ohm's Law electronics.>
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Roger Ruszkowski fl
> owertime01 at wmconnect.com> wrote:>
> >>
> >> Ross,
> >>
> >> This looks like a sweet deal to me at 1K
> each.>> So in 66 a kilo buck was 1/5 of the take home pay for an
> automotive>> worker
> >> for a year in Detroit or Flint
> Michigan.>>
> >> That was serious money.
> >>
> >> In 68, for 40 hours in a Flint Chevy shop you took
> home $100.12>> Union due week you only got $98.12
> >> You worked 50 weeks a year and had a two week
> "change over" in July with>> no income.
> >> Guys use to raise families, buy homes and new
> Chevies on $5,000.00 a year>> back then.
> >>
> >> Roger.
> >>
> >>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:07:54 -0500
From: barry williams <ba.williams at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] EAC Contract info in Red Bank Paper
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Marhall,
This may be reaching back too far for my memory, but aren't you the member who flew a homebuilt up somewhere to pick up a R-390A and took pictures of it strapped in the back on the way home? Those were great pics and a great story too.
the other Barry
> I got out of the navy in 1964, and returned to my home in the Flint,
> Michigan area. Minimum wage then was $.90 or $1.00 per hour. Flint
> is a General Motors town consisting of Buick, Chevrolet, Chevrolet
> Frame& Stamping, Fisher Body, AC Spark Plug, and Ternstedt Parts Mfg. All union.
> The United Auto Workers wage for assembly line workers was $2.65 per
> hour, with a shift premium of $.25 per hour. My navy pay was around
> $78.00 per month, so, although I swore I would Never work in the
> factories, I was employed at Buick as an assembly line worker on the
> third shift. I was making over a Hundred Dollars a Week! and thought
> I was finally pooping in tall cotton for the first time in my life.
>
> In 1966, several important things in life (to me) were in some sort of
> harmony: A new Jaguar XKE sports car cost $6,600.00, a new Cessna
> 150 airplane cost $6,700.00 and my Union wages for the year was around
> $6,500.00 gross. Take home pay was obviously less because of taxes,
> union dues, and other deductions. I was single, living in an
> apartment that cost me $16.00 per week, and I had recently purchased a
> new Buick LeSabre 400 fastback (that I myself assembled and walked
> down the assembly line on my
> shift) that had a list price of $3,456.20, but I remember paying
> $2,900 or so for it (I still have the window sticker somewhere).
>
> I was taking private pilot flying lessons, and decided to not buy the
> Jaguar XKE or the new Cessna 150, but I did purchase my first
> airplane, a
> 1946 Aeronca model 7AC "Champ" for $1,200.00. I flew that plane for
> over
> 800 hours and even flew it down here to the Houston area in 1969.
>
> I mention these figures to illustrate what the costs associated with
> life in the early '60s were for the wants and needs of a young man
> with only a high school education and military service behind him. Life was "sort of"
> good at that time, but because of the decline in the quality of life
> in Flint, Michigan, I left for Northwest airlines in Detroit. (Better
> pay, although still union). Good technical schooling (I was an
> avionics technician in the aviation industry for the next 25 years
> (including ARAMCO aviation department in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia).
> Today, Flint, Michigan (and Michigan in general) is an economic
> cesspool of corruption, greed and Chicago style politics. ALL of
> those hundred year old automobile factories have been scraped of the
> face of the earth. It's still a union only state, but there are very few jobs to be had.
>
> The Collins R-390 series of radios at $1,000 - $1,300 were out of my
> reach at the time, but are a bargain at most prices today. As Roger
> says: you need at least TWO of them. More is better. It's a great receiver.
>
> Sorry to ramble, but this old man is starting to live in the past,
> these days.
>
> 73,
>
> Marshall M. Dues, K5MMD, (ex WN8DIM, WA8PEX, WA5ZEP, WB5MYO) Collins
> R-390As, ART-13, URC-32B, S-line, ARINC avionics, plus a hundred or
> more of the Hallicrafters, National, Hammarlund, Gonset, Morrow,
> Drake, Swan, Heath, Knight, and many other classics saved from the
> land fill by a young man who actually Learned about Ohm's Law electronics.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:41:29 -0700
From: navydude1962 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 100, Issue 7
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For the record Mattel made the plastics on the M16 but the GI versions were all Colt
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