[R-390] T401 alignment
Roy Morgan
k1lky at earthlink.net
Wed Apr 11 23:57:38 EDT 2012
On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, chuck.rippel at cox.net wrote:
>
> A question to the group. Anyone have documentation on how to tune
> T401
> on the 2nd xtal oscillator deck?
Chuck and all,
I scanned my collected posts from the list, and a couple of saved web
sites, and came up with the following LONG collection of discussions.
The most complete is by Roger from his "Trilogy", and is at the very
end of this message.
Roy
Roy Morgan
k1lky at earthlink.net
K1LKY Since 1958 - Keep 'em Glowing!
In "HSN No 29 rewritten (wm).pdf" I find:
"After the RF subchassis has been aligned, each of the ceramic crystal
oscillator trimmers should be
peaked. Tune to any CAL signal in the band indicated above the trimmer
(see Fig. 7) and peak the
signal. Not shown in Fig 7, eight of the trimmers can be peaked in
either of two bands: 0-17, 1-18,
2-19, 3-20, 4-21, 5-22, 6-23, 7-24. After peaking such a trimmer in
one band, you do not need to
peak it again in the other band. Peak T401 (also marked T207)."
In ...Walt-Wilson-KK4DF/R-390A Alignment v2.htm in the variable IF
alignment section, the last steps are:
"Repeat the above until you no longer make big changes to the trimmer
caps, then stop.
Set the signal generator to above 8MC (about 10 MC), and peak T208 and
T401 for maximum diode load voltage."
and in the crystal oscillator section:
"Crystal Oscillator
You may use the CAL function for peaking the trimmer caps for maximum
diode load voltage. But a better method is to use the line meter
output and your ear with nothing but RF deck noise to peak each
crystal for maximum audible noise and deflection of the line level
meter. Peak the 17-24 MC trimmers at the lower bands (0-8 MC). After
all are done, peak T401 (again) for maximum output at about 10 MC.
T401 will peak differently on the higher and lower bands, so 10 MC is
a compromise."
From my collection of posts to the list, I find:
----- Original Message -----
From: "MURPH" <rickmurphy1001 at earthlink.net>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:06 PM
Subject: [R-390] T- 401
> What is the proper way to align T-401?
> I peaked mine at 22mc with a DVM between e210 and ground with the
> function switch in standby. Then peaked all trimmers on the module
at their
> appropriate frequency.
> Richard
From: "Keith Densmore" <densmore at idirect.com>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:56:44 -0400
Subject: [R-390] T207 T401
Greetings,
Perhaps I'm missing it, but I cannot find a procedure for aligning
T207 ( 17meg) or T401 (crystal osc) in any of the books here.
Anyone know an accepted procedure for them?
All 73,
Keith ve3ts
From: Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Message-ID: <c50.1892745c.33e7b5cf at wmconnect.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:22:55 EDT
Subject: Re: [R-390] T207 T401
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Keith,
You ask about, a procedure for aligning T207 ( 17meg) or T401
(crystal osc)
--------------
You are correct.
For T401 the procedure is to run the MC to 31 and peak T401 and the
cap for
maximum output.
In practice you find the MC band with the lowest output level and
retune T401
to bring that band up enough to pass the 10:1 signal to noise ratio
test on
that weak megahertz band. There is no one best absolute setting for
T401. You
use it to get the bast of all bands out of it.
T207 the output of the first crystal oscillator is the same approach.
That
transformer always passes 17Mhz. Pick any point under 8Mhz and adjust
T207 for
maximum output on the diode load for minimum RF input at the antenna
input.
You get like one clause of a sentence in the original TM on these
subjects.
Hope this helps Roger AI4NI
From: Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Subject: [R-390] R390/A T401
Date: March 15, 2009 12:42:23 PM EDT
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Richard,
Does anyone have an alignment process for the tunable inductor T401 in
an
R-390A XTAL oscillator ?
----------
Very good question.
R390/A TM11-5820-358-35 Para 74 omits this subject. More than once we
tried
to get it into a new edition of the TM. (1968 - 1975)
R390 TM11-5820-357-35 Para 77 give a procedure to do the alignment in
the
R390. We just used this procedure on the R390/A.
I do not have my Y2K manual on this computer to see if the subject is
covered.
From the R390 TM.
Hang a Neg DC voltmeter into E210 grid test point of second mixer.
Set the slug of T401 at about 1/4 out from all the way in.
Set the receiver to 31 Meg.
Get a tweeker on the 31 meg trim cap in the osc deck.
Get a tweeker on T401.
Get the Voltmeter scale readable.
Spin the cap around.
It should peak twice.
Turn T401 out.
Spin the cap around.
It should peak twice.
Repeat
Turn T401 out.
Spin the cap around.
It should peak twice.
-------------
Or
Find the point of the trim cap between the two peaks. (max cap)
Adjust T401 out until the meter peaks)
--------------
At some point the cap it will only peak once. (max cap but not enough
cap)
Now set the trimmer cap off peak a bit and reset T401 for max reading.
---Adjust T401 back in.
This should leave T401 peaked for best response.
You should get two peaks on the cap again.
Some times you will have a weak crystal or harmonic of the crystal.
Then you may do this process on that frequency with that trimmer cap
to bring
the weak 1Mhz band up as best you can. Then retrim all the caps to
T401 as
adjusted for the poorest crystal in the osc deck.
If the poor crystal will not let you trim it up and get every thing
else to
pass, then it is time to change that crystal. This process being used
to judge
when its time to call a crystal bad.
If you have a band that does not peak twice with the trimmer cap, this
is a
band worth trying to reset T401 for higher output. You may have several
crystals that need to have the socket cleaned or the crystal replaced.
Adding small caps to bring a trimmer up to peak twice with T401 can be
more
work than finding a different crystal that will work.
Roger Ruszkowski AI4NI
From: Bob Camp <ham at cq.nu>
Subject: Re: [R-390] T- 401
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net, MURPH <rickmurphy1001 at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:45:06 -0500
Hi,
That's been a debate here for as long as there has been a list. A few
things people agree on:
1) Don't touch it after you have started peaking trimmers
2) If you run out of range on the trimmers moving T401 may help
3) If all the trimmers are in range (not at max or min) then there may
be
room to fiddle T401
At that point the best advice is to peak it for your least sensitive
band
*if* you can do that and still keep all the trimmers in range.
Take Care! Bob Camp KB8TQ
This following message from Roger seems to be the most complete
discussion of the topic:
From: Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Message-ID: <c4e.1ae1775d.33f0c3b0 at wmconnect.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:12:32 EDT
Subject: Re: [R-390] T207 T401
To: carolew at bellatlantic.net
Carrol,
...
This is long but I hope it provides some insight.
It is still not an exact step by step cook book.
The Second Osc alignment is about as clear as Mississippi River Water
after a
summer rain. After reading the TM a few times the subject clears up.
It looks
like the Beach Surf in Okinawa after a Typhoon just misses the Island.
Once
you the do the alignment a few times the subject looks like the
crystal water
and coral bottoms as viewed from the high beach cliffs of Okinawa and
you
wonder what the fuss was all about.
The TM says align the second crystal oscillator caps from the Cal
tones and
using the carrier meter as the output indicating level. That got some
writer
off the hook back in 52 for the R390 TM and was copied into the R390/A
TM. See
TM 11-5820-358-35 Paragraph 74 (page 114 in the 8 Dec 1961 printing) The
process works. And you can spread peanut butter on bread with a pop
sickle stick.
But I digress and you asked me about T401 and the trimmer caps in the
Second
Oscillator in the R390/A receiver.
The TM says there is no adjustment for 0 to 7. But we know 0 - 7 lays
over
17- 24. The TM says start adjusting the caps for maximum carrier level
output on
each Mhz band from 8 to 31. Mud in your eye. Do this from 31 down to 8.
There is one obscure clause of a sentence in the R390 TM that suggest
that
T401 (numbered something else in the R390) be adjusted for maximum
output at
31Mhz.
These two items, set T401 to max at 31Mhz and set C31 to max at 31Mhz,
imply
these two adjustments will peak the output of the second crystal
oscillator
for maximum receiver performance across all frequencies in the range
of the
receiver. Another fantisy that passed muster with the TM editors. Hey
it reads
good in Jargon with no sarcasm showing.
In real life do the following:
Turn the BFO off because BFO on masks the real signal level.
Set the receiver to MGC to defeat the AGC which will cause output meter
variations.
Hang a DC volt meter off the diode load as you choice of output
indicator as
this is the most sensitive easily accessible point to meter the receiver
output.
Inject RF into the antenna input and use a level that gives a diode load
reading in the range of -5 to - 10 volts. The RF may or may not be
modulated but
un modulated RF is mostly preferred for adjusting and testing.
The Receiver has a range of 31,000+ - 500 = 31,500 hertz. There is one
transformer (T401) and 24 caps that need to adjusted to optimize the
second crystal
oscillators output such that all frequencies at the receivers antenna
input
have optimum output at the headphone jack. Optimum output is left
undefined as
an exercise for the operator to complete.
The first crystal osc mixes RF input under 7,000+ Mhz with a frequency
near
17Mhz and passes it on to the second mixer. Between 17 Mhz and 24 Mhz
the
second crystal osc uses a different crystal to mix that RF input under
7,000+ Mhz
to a range of 3.455 to 2.455Mhz. The third mixer then mixes the VFO
with this
signal to produce a signal at 455Khz. On a good day this signal is
centered
into a crystal in the if deck with a band pass near 455Khz. Anywhere
in the
frequency range you can grab the zero adjust the and slide the VFO
around a bit to
peak the transfer.
The nonlinear VFO and its band spread will also impact the mixing
frequency.
One end of the VFO or the other may add or subtract from any given
second
mixer crystal error to increase the or decrease the receiver output.
So what good alignment? When do you quit?
Because the 17Mhz crystal is not exactly 17,000,000.000 you may find the
optimum cap setting for 18Mhz is not the same set point as for maximum
1Mhz.
Like wise because some crystals at 17 -24 are not exact, the optimum
setting
for one of them may not be the same for the double conversion and the
single
conversion. If the 17Mhz crystal is off and the second mixer crystal
is off the
differences may add to make things poor, subtract to make things OK,
cancel
to make things good, do none of the above just to add reality.
Some of the second mixer crystals are used at more than one harmonic.
You
have a different cap to peak each of these harmonics. The output level
at the
harmonics may not be equal in amplitude or adjustable to equal
amplitude while
each frequency has a nice double peak on it's respective trimmer cap.
The thought is that crystal output is highest at low frequencies and
drops
off as frequency increases. If T401 is peaked at the highest
frequency, it
response will drop off as frequency decreases. The slope of T401's
output plotted
against the slope of crystal loss across frequency is considered to
yield a
near flat mixer output across the frequency span.
Thus the TM read to peak T401 at the highest frequency and adjust each
cap in
the second crystal osc deck from 8 to 31 Mhz. The procedure details
using the
Cal tone, BFO and carrier level meter. Me know this process is not the
most
sensitive.
We would like to think that peaking the trimmer caps only changes the
impedance match to yield a better power transfer of the oscillator
output and that
the cap adjustment does not vary the frequency of the crystals. We
would like to
think every crystal is spot on exact to within under 100 hertz and
stable as
a rock.
What we find is one or more crystals have an output level below the
curve.
If it is off frequency, and in the range of the zero adjust, then zero
adjust
the VFO and peak the cap for the megahertz band and move on. This is
just an
off frequency crystal but still in specification. If the zero adjust
it peaked
and the output is low then the oscillator output is weak for that
band. Try
cleaning the crystal contacts, the tube contacts and the cap. But the
first
easy quick fix in a clean receiver where you know corrosion is not the
problem
(1968 - 1975 era) is to adjust T401.
You slide the low frequency slope of T401 down. This lets more of the
crystal
output from the weak crystal through the circuit to bring the weak
band up to
par. You hope the top frequencies do not go so far over the hump they
fall
under par.
You find the low spot (a dip / a weak output crystal) in what would be
the
curve of the crystal output levels. Then move the cutoff slope of T401
by
adjustment so that when the two functions (crystal outputs / T401
cutoff slope)
cross, the output performance level of the second osc is of acceptable
performance.
Start at 31 Mhz and adjust T401 and cap 31 for maximum output. Use a RF
signal generator and DC volt meter on the diode load for best
indication of
adjustments.
Continue down the bands in frequency to 8 Mhz. Adjust each cap but do
not
reset T401 while doing these adjustments.
Mark the 17 - 24 cap setting (pencil on the deck in line with the screw
driver slot) and continue down in frequency.
Reset the caps for best output on the 7 - 0 bands.
Look at the cap settings when you complete this process.
Are the caps still peaked at the same alignment point?
Are the 17 - 24 caps not all offset the same way (17Mhz crystal off
frequency)?
Are the 17- 24 caps set above and below (the second crystals osc
crystals off
frequency)?
Now you have a choice.
Peak the caps for the low band (0-8) or the high band (17-24) or balance
between the bands.
If in the process of aligning the whole receiver you find one or some
of the
1Mhz bands to be low you can now think about readjusting T401 to bring
the
bands up to par.
First consider if you have done all the other adjustments on the
receiver.
Working over 17- 31 Z206 and T206 will yield more improvement than
trying to
optimize T401 and C20 to bring up a weak 20Mhz band.
Second consider if you have a clean machine.
Clean contacts under, caps, transformers, tubes, crystals and
connectors go
further than peaking adjustments.
After you adjust T401 to bring up some low band you should then go
back and
check all the other caps. What ever the last setting for T401, peak
all the
caps without ever touching T401 again.
The TM implies that setting T401 is not an exact most critical
adjustment.
The TM further implies that just close with a cal tone and carrier
meter is good
enough. But after 50 years, consideration and attention to detail can
get
more out of these adjustments than just a good receiver.
Put some time into your receiver working through these adjustments to
come to
an understanding of how your particular receiver balances out. In the
end you
will have a better receiver to listen too.
There are many other stages in the receiver that can compensate for the
elected less than exact test book adjustment of the second crystal osc
deck.
Once you understand what bands of the receiver you want to optimize
for your
use, how the many adjustments interact and the limits of the exact
parts in
your exact receiver, you find a pattern of adjustments that optimizes
the
receiver for your enjoyment.
I hope this helps. Roger L. Ruszkowski AI4NI
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