[R-390] Orange Drop vs ceramic disc
2002tii
bmw2002tii at nerdshack.com
Thu Mar 31 00:05:53 EDT 2011
Bob wrote:
>Granted that at super low distortion levels the effects of ceramic
>types can be measured, but in a typical communications receiver audio
>amplifier section where THD products of 5 percent or 10 percent
>are the norm,
>I doubt if distortion products down 60 db or more are going to be
>measurable let alone heard by mere mortals.
>
>And the tests were all done on the smaller SMT caps and I'd like to
>know if physical size makes any difference, especially on the DC voltage
>applied parameter.
There have been many tests, back to at least the '40s (long before
small surface-mount ceramics were a gleam in anyone's eye),
documenting this behavior of ceramic caps. Bob Pease published a
chart in EDN in the early '80s comparing the dielectric
absorption-related distortion of various types of capacitors that
showed measured distortion of 1% or more at low audio frequencies for
ceramics (though NP0 caps were much better). (Note that this is a
different mechanism than the voltage coefficient of capacitance, and
that both mechanisms cause distortion independently.)
We comprehensively tested all kinds of capacitors in audio coupling
circuits in the '80s, and I assure you that the distortion from
ceramic caps is clearly audible. Yes, we used a high-resolution
audio system, not a communications radio -- but different types of
distortion are heard more or less independently (that is, one type --
for example, even-order harmonic distortion, which dominates tube
communications radio distortion -- does not mask another type -- for
example, high-order intermodulation distortion or digital
quantization errors, even when it is present at much higher levels),
so the distortion due to ceramic coupling caps may very well be
audible even in a circuit with 10% even-order harmonic
distortion. We also used signal cancellation techniques to listen to
the distortion products alone, and the distortion products of ceramic
caps are extremely ugly-sounding (high-order, non
harmonically-related -- easy to spot at very low levels).
Since it is no effort whatsoever to avoid ceramic caps in coupling
applications, there is simply no reason to use ceramics in those
applications (indeed, it is simply good engineering practice to avoid
possible ill effects when there is little or no cost to do so).
Best regards,
Don
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