[R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 79, Issue 24
Richard Green
k7yoo at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 24 13:45:19 EST 2010
With CNC and plasma cutting equipment available for adding ventilation holes I
never really thought to mention them. Obviously they would be required, and I
rightly assumed everyone in the group was smart enough to realize that. I have
also used Heathkit cabinets from the Mohawk/Marauder/Apache/DX100B series. They
look great but take a fair amount of modification to the mounting area, removal
of spot welds/rear panel, and rear support for the receiver chassis. NO R390
should hang from its panel. My mention of the Hammond cabinet was merely to
provide an attractive and economical option to the $350 originals. I currently
have an SP600 in one of them and it works and looks well. Probably the best area
to cut vents is on the bottom. A plasma cutter with a carpenters square for a
guide makes neat undistorted cutouts and barely scorches the paint.
Most body shops have these, and we have one in our plant for doing window and
vent cutouts for machines and electrical boxes. Mods that used to be expensive
and difficult are now easy and affordable. I even made an engraved SX73 panel
from scratch--a chunk of aluminum and a little programing. I think generating
the measurements took more time than it did to machine.
Have a great Thanksgiving!
Skip
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1. Hammond Cabinets (Richard Green)
2. Re: Hammond Cabinets (Ron.K3PID)
3. Re: Hammond Cabinets (Richard Loken)
4. Re: Hammond Cabinets (Barry)
5. Re: Hammond Cabinets (James Young)
6. Re: Hammond Cabinets (Jeff Adams)
7. Re: Hammond Cabinets (Randy and Sherry Guttery)
8. Re: R390a cabinet (Barry)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:15:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Green <k7yoo at yahoo.com>
Subject: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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The Hammond P/N for cabinets to fit R-390, R 274, etc is :
RCBS1901017GY2
19" x 10.50 panel, 17" deep
This comes with some blank panels, hardware and is a semi-gloss gray. There are
other finishes available but this is the one that I would consider the easiest
to either leave as is or repaint. I have purchased at least 6 of them for
various receivers. They look good and are around $160. They can be ordered from
any Hammond distributor, including Fair Radio I'm sure.
Skip
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:29:02 -0600
From: "Ron.K3PID" <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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I may be all wrong on this but I think the "real" R-390 cabinet has louvers
on both sides and on top with screen covered holes in the bottom. All of
this presumably for ventilation. At least mine does! If you use the Hammond
unit, I would watch for internal temperature rise!!!
Just a thought! Free and worth every bit!
K3PID Ron H.
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Subject: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
> The Hammond P/N for cabinets to fit R-390, R 274, etc is :
> RCBS1901017GY2
> 19" x 10.50 panel, 17" deep
> This comes with some blank panels, hardware and is a semi-gloss gray.
> There are
> other finishes available but this is the one that I would consider the
> easiest
> to either leave as is or repaint. I have purchased at least 6 of them for
> various receivers. They look good and are around $160. They can be ordered
> from
> any Hammond distributor, including Fair Radio I'm sure.
> Skip
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:55:43 -0700 (MST)
From: Richard Loken <richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
To: "Ron.K3PID" <ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net>
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Ron.K3PID wrote:
> I may be all wrong on this but I think the "real" R-390 cabinet has louvers
> on both sides and on top with screen covered holes in the bottom. All of
> this presumably for ventilation. At least mine does! If you use the Hammond
> unit, I would watch for internal temperature rise!!!
The R-390 is confusing just like so much of life.
I think that if I took an R-390 and ran it without a cabinet but with the
top and bottom covers in place then I would have similar heating issues
(or worse) than if I ran an R-390 in a Hammond cabinet without but with
the top and bottom covers removed.
As far as I recall, the manual told me to remove the covers if I put the
unit in a rack. What does it say about installation in the official
government issue cabinet?
--
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Athabasca University : but you have to earn
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:41:41 -0500
From: Barry <n4buq at knology.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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Yes, the CY-979A is the cabinet of choice albeit a little hard to find these
days. Not sure about the ventiliation in the Hammonds either.
Barry - N4BUQ
On Tue 23/11/10 1:29 PM , "Ron.K3PID" ron.k3pid at sbcglobal.net sent:
> I may be all wrong on this but I think the "real" R-390 cabinet has louvers
> on both sides and on top with screen covered holes in the bottom. All of
> this presumably for ventilation. At least mine does! If you use the Hammond
> unit, I would watch for internal temperature rise!!!
>
> Just a thought! Free and worth every bit!
>
> K3PID Ron H.
>
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> ailman.qth.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:15 AM
> Subject: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
>
>
> > The Hammond P/N for cabinets to fit R-390, R 274,
> etc is :> RCBS1901017GY2
> > 19" x 10.50 panel, 17" deep
> > This comes with some blank panels, hardware and is
> a semi-gloss gray. > There are
> > other finishes available but this is the one that I
> would consider the > easiest
> > to either leave as is or repaint. I have purchased
> at least 6 of them for> various receivers. They look good and are around
> $160. They can be ordered > from
> > any Hammond distributor, including Fair Radio I'm
> sure.> Skip
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:17:27 -0500
From: "James Young" <YoungFamily at glwb.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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The proper cabinet for an R-390A is a CY-979/URR and it has louvers on the
top and the sides as well as shock absorbing feet. I bought a brand new one
from Frank Krize a number of years ago at Dayton. The radio covers need to
be removed for the receiver to slide into the cabinet. I don't know, and
have wondered myself, if the CY-979/URR is an appropriate cabinet also for
an R-390 or R-391. Any ideas?
73 Jim Young W8MAQ
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Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
I may be all wrong on this but I think the "real" R-390 cabinet has louvers
on both sides and on top with screen covered holes in the bottom. All of
this presumably for ventilation. At least mine does! If you use the Hammond
unit, I would watch for internal temperature rise!!!
Just a thought! Free and worth every bit!
K3PID Ron H.
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From: "Richard Green" <k7yoo at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
> The Hammond P/N for cabinets to fit R-390, R 274, etc is :
> RCBS1901017GY2
> 19" x 10.50 panel, 17" deep
> This comes with some blank panels, hardware and is a semi-gloss gray.
> There are
> other finishes available but this is the one that I would consider the
> easiest
> to either leave as is or repaint. I have purchased at least 6 of them for
> various receivers. They look good and are around $160. They can be ordered
> from
> any Hammond distributor, including Fair Radio I'm sure.
> Skip
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:55:06 -0500
From: Jeff Adams <physicist at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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Both of my CY-979As are vented as described. - Jeff
> I may be all wrong on this but I think the "real" R-390 cabinet has louvers
> on both sides and on top with screen covered holes in the bottom. All of
> this presumably for ventilation. At least mine does! If you use the Hammond
> unit, I would watch for internal temperature rise!!!
Jeffrey L. Adams KG4RZM Physicist at cox.net
http://www.jeffreyladams.com
Mentor of the R390/R390A CD Archive
Motorola R390A/URR 1956 14-PH-56 Serial 1409 w/ CY979
Collins R390A/URR 1952 14214-PH-51 Serial 979 w/ CY979
Collins R392/URR 1951 3075-PH-51 Serial 252 w/ T195 transmitter
EAC R390A/URR 1960 23137-PC-60
Hammarlund SP-600-JX-26 1953 Serial 13432
Hammarlund SP-600-JX-17 Diversity Serial 12384
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:18:52 -0600
From: Randy and Sherry Guttery <comcents at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Hammond Cabinets
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On 11/23/2010 2:17 PM, James Young wrote:
> I don't know, and
> have wondered myself, if the CY-979/URR is an appropriate cabinet also for
> an R-390 or R-391. Any ideas?
I don't know about the R-390 - always rack mounted those we
had - I had always assumed (there is that dangerous word!)
that the cabinets would be the same as for the R-391s.
Sherry's R-391 is in (best we can tell) a CY-979/URR...
which is the single "Mobile table-top" cabinet called for
in the manual. The manual also lists the CY 917/URR for
"desk-top" use. Then goes on to also list the CY1119/FRR
rack (i.e. AN/FRR-39) -- and the CY-1216/U - but I'd always
thought of those used with the R-388s (i.e. AN/GRC-26). The
book says to remove the top and bottom dust covers when in
the CY-1119/FRR cabinet; but interestingly enough does not
mention that with the other cabinets (each cabinet has a
paragraph). Even so, I'd think it prudent to pull the
covers - and in the case of the R-390/1 a small fan wouldn't
be overkill.
best!
--
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54:52 -0500
From: Barry <n4buq at knology.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] R390a cabinet
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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Not sure if it will be a "deal" or not, but there's a CY-979A up on eBay:
170569522920
Barry - N4BUQ
On Mon 22/11/10 1:13 PM , Tom Langpap tomlangpap at yahoo.com sent:
> Does anyone have any idea where one could get a deal on a metal?cabinet to
> fit the R390a?Regards,
> Tom N0TJL
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