[R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 73, Issue 24

SHELLY199 at aol.com SHELLY199 at aol.com
Fri May 21 20:07:41 EDT 2010


Glenn,
I to have used the Lankford mod with the two diodes in many IF modules and  
find that the 914 diodes break down.  I've been using 1n5060 diodes and  
find a remarkable AGC in a properly operating IF module.  Try it you'll  like 
it!
 
Rich WD2Q 
 
 
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1. 390A AGC  (wa4aos at aol.com)
2. R-391 For sale (Mark  McNulty)
3. Re: R-390 Digest, Vol 73, Issue 23 (bernie  nicholson)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:43:44 -0400
From: wa4aos at aol.com
Subject:  [R-390] 390A AGC
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Hi Group,

I am working with  different AGC mods, 5 so far, that I have found on the 
web and in ER. The  Lankford mod looked most promising initially but I had 
problems with it bowing  diodes but fairly decent AGC when working. Recently I 
found, with the help of  Ray at ER, the W0BY mod listed in issie 208 of ER 
and it looked very promising  as well, however, it still pops on loud 
signals going quiet. A good example  are the morons who tune across the bands with 
full power, especially annoying  if you are coping CW with headphones. I 
have noticed it on strong SSB signals  as well. The article in ER seems to 
indicate this should not be a problem but  yet it is and on 3 different modules 
wired correctly; perhaps there is  something external to the mod that is 
affecting this AGC mod. I am working  with late run EAC modules presently and 
was wondering if others had had  success with an AGC mod that REALLY worked 
well. I will say that the W0BY mod  does work much better than stock 390A 
AGC.
The Lankford mod as listed on  the web is kind of tricky to follow as 
listed from his hand drawings but I  have made many notes and easy to follow 
schematics.  If  I get the  diode problem resolved, I will release my notes to 
the group if anyone wants  them. I tried to contact Dr Lankford but he is not 
available and I can only  ASSUME he would not mind if I offer help to 
clarify his notes as well as my  own experiences and documentation.
I found the article in ER to be very  well written and easy to follow but 
again that author was not available for  questions or comments. Maybe they 
found something more worthwhile to do with  their time instead of playing with 
90 pound radios; bass fishing comes to  mind. Hi.

I may try increasing the PIV of the diodes that were in the  Lankford mod 
but to date I have had 4) IF modules blow diodes from that mod  after some 
use.
Perhaps implementing SSB compatible AGC with the 390A is  not necessary but 
the receiver has so much going for it that I want to go a  step further. I 
know I am preaching to the choir. Hi
Any thoughts would be  appreciated.
Regards,
Glenn  WA4AOS






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Message:  2
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark McNulty  <noggie1999 at yahoo.ca>
Subject: [R-390] R-391 For sale
To:  r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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Hi Everyone,
If anyone is interested in a R-391  email me for info and pictures.Thought 
I would check here before putting on  Ebay.  
Mark




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Message:  3
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:08:47 +1000
From: "bernie nicholson"  <vk2abn at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 73,  Issue 23
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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I have two  HP 606 s one is an ''A'' That I  got from Pete Vk3Iz [on this 
list] the other a ''B''   was  a  throw out ,although I did donate 20$ to 
our 
radio club ,to   get the last one , They have been very reliable over the 
last 15 years  ,but one did develop a fault in the leveling circuit ,it 
turned out to be  a High value resistor, I   have collected some spare 
tubes 
to  support them acquired at Trash and Treasure  sales , they both are  
capable of very high output  +23Dbm into 50 ohms   ,I use  them for doing 
dynamic range and blocking tests  along with a HP  return loss bridge , 
also 
to power my GR916A  RF bridge , They are  both valued Items at this QTH 
Regards to all Bernie N VK2ABN
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>   1. HP 606A: Seeking cabinet and RF shield  UPDATE (David Wise)
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>  Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:19:42 -0700
> From: David  Wise <David_Wise at Phoenix.com>
> Subject: [R-390] HP 606A: Seeking  cabinet and RF shield UPDATE
> To:  "'hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com'"
>  <hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com>,  "'r-390 at mailman.qth.net'"
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> There was one  black beauty and one small axial-lead electrolytic.
> I replaced them  without even checking them.  And some of the
> coils had come loose  and needed to be glued back onto the turrets.
>
> It works, on all  bands, AM and CW.  I think it's a winner,
> so now I'm truly  interested in a shield and cabinet.  (I have
> hear that the  cabinet is common to many instruments of the
> same vintage.   However, the manual lists it as part number
> 606A-44A-2, which sounds  unique.  I'll keep my eyes peeled
> anyway.)
> I am also  looking for expert opinion regarding the serial number.
> That is, I  can't find one anywhere.  Examination of the circuit
> indicates  the prefix is either 943 or 009.  The difference is
> Change C in  the scan of 00606-90013 available at Agilent.
> This change replaced the  coil forms with new ones that were
> interchangeable with the old.   No further information is given,
> but my coils do not match the  drawings.  The manual shows
> allen-head tuning cores, while most  of my coils have a slotted
> 6-32 stud.  Are these the older  ones?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Wise
>  ________________________________
> From: David Wise
> Sent:  Saturday, May 15, 2010 7:24 AM
> To:  hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject:  HP 606A: Seeking cabinet and RF shield
>
> I just found a present  on my doorstep.  It's an HP 606A RF Signal 
> Generator.
>  It's only the bare chassis, and the RF shield that covers the tuning
>  coils etc is gone.  Other than that it's untouched and complete, and I  
> wouldn't
> be surprised at all if it worked.  But without  the shield it's pretty 
much 
> useless
> as a generator, as it  will leak RF all over the place, and who wants to 
> run a
> bare  chassis?  Does anyone have a cabinet and shield?
>
>  Thanks,
> David Wise
>
> I'm near Portland  Oregon.
>
>
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>
>  Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:56:35 -0500
> From: Barry  <n4buq at knology.net>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] HP 606A: Seeking  cabinet and RF shield UPDATE
> To: David Wise  <David_Wise at Phoenix.com>
> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net,  hp_agilent_equipment at yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID:  <4BF45083.8020703 at knology.net>
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>
> On 5/19/2010 2:19 PM, David  Wise wrote:
>> There was one black beauty and one small axial-lead  electrolytic.
>> I replaced them without even checking them.   And some of the
>> coils had come loose and needed to be glued back  onto the turrets.
>>
>> It works, on all bands, AM and  CW.  I think it's a winner,
>> so now I'm truly interested in a  shield and cabinet.  (I have
>> hear that the cabinet is common  to many instruments of the
>> same vintage.  However, the manual  lists it as part number
>> 606A-44A-2, which sounds unique.   I'll keep my eyes peeled
>> anyway.)
>> I am also looking  for expert opinion regarding the serial number.
>> That is, I can't  find one anywhere.  Examination of the circuit
>> indicates the  prefix is either 943 or 009.  The difference is
>> Change C in  the scan of 00606-90013 available at Agilent.
>> This change replaced  the coil forms with new ones that were
>> interchangeable with the  old.  No further information is given,
>> but my coils do not  match the drawings.  The manual shows
>> allen-head tuning  cores, while most of my coils have a slotted
>> 6-32 stud.  Are  these the older ones?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave  Wise
>>
>
> Mine has hex-key tuning cores.  The  cabinet says it's an 842 prefix.
>
> Barry -  N4BUQ
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 16:52:51 -0500
> From: "Bill  Hawkins" <bill at iaxs.net>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] HP 606A: Seeking  cabinet and RF shield UPDATE
> To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>  Message-ID: <2973DE1647204AF7A508107990BD42AE at cyrus>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>  David,
>
> I think I have what you need. I had a 606A once, gone  now, but
> there's some mystery pieces left in the shop:
>
>  Aluminum box with rack ears 7" high and 10.5" deep, no holes.
> Three  smaller pieces of aluminum partial boxes, must be shields.
>
> If  that sounds good, send me an address. No charge.
>
> Bill  Hawkins
>
>
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