[R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 72, Issue 4 Re: Noams steamy story

[Henry Mei'l's]

Well, I live in Scandinavia so I know  the scene (at my age, mostly 
remember)! So I can't complain about my younger days. Caution: the beauties 
around here not are only tantalizing, they are also very tough, career 
fixated and shrewd. So be careful ! (But then again, aren't most women that 
way, at least these days ?)
To any YL/XYLs on the thread: Am I not being politically correct ?

73s Henry OZ1UF, Cph. (re-tired/or just tired,  past time casanova)

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>   1. Nolans Steamy Lost Story (Perry Sandeen)
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>   4. Re: USPS info (What a screw up and a rip off !!!) (Ed Zeranski)
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> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:57:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Perry Sandeen <sandeenpa at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [R-390] Nolans Steamy Lost Story
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> GM List,
>
> We were all saddened to learn about Nolan?s stroke and memory loss.  We 
> thought we?d never have another tale.
>
>    Noland always talked about writing a story about, shall we say, ?lusty? 
> Swedish twins.  Thanks to a source who requested anonymity, I have 
> received a copy.  Below is an except:
>
> "Even the normally non-plused Swedes at the sans-suit beach noticed these 
> blond, blue eyed Nordic beauties as they dropped their robes and headed 
> for the water.  It was their petite perfection that send a small murmur 
> through the crowd.  Sonja and Helga?s demure smiles were an after-glow of 
> the previous nites activities in which they had trysted wantonly??."
>
> Umm, as you can see this story in "not for the kiddies".  Reply off line 
> for the complete version.
>
> Regards, Perrier
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:37:42 -0400
> From: "Don Heywood" <wc4g at knology.net>
> Subject: [R-390] One of Nolan Lee's posts (5/99) I miss him
> To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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> I've had a couple of requests for the list of items I did when I went thru
> my EAC last year so I'm reposting my original message on it to the list. 
> The
> EAC has been running 24/7 since October of last year and I have no
> complaints. I've been wanting to pull it out of the rack and do a "visual"
> of it and check the tubes and the alignment but haven't had the time. 
> Maybe
> this Fall.
> Your mileage may vary...
> nolan
>
> -----snip from Oct 1998-----
> Well, after spending months slowly going thru my two R390A's, one is
> finished. Below is an outline of the steps that I took during my overhaul.
> This was probably one of the more evolved R390A "overhauls" done in the
> South. The other, will take longer, I'm probably going to replace all of 
> the
> bushings in the RF deck among other things that I didn't do with this one.
> The victim: I started with a cherry 1967 EAC contract model that was the
> "lowest mileage" R390A I've ever seen. All of the original modules, 
> meters,
> covers, etc. were still on it. In addition, all of the tubes in it had 
> date
> codes within a two or three month period of each other in 1968. Even with
> clean gears, there wasn't even a hint of a wear pattern in any of the 
> gears
> and all of the aluminum finish in the tracks on the RF deck was still
> intact. The green paint on all of the module hold down screws was even 
> 100%.
> I'd be surprised if this thing saw more than a few hours operation after 
> the
> burn in period. There's no diode load hole in the front panel or 
> adjustment
> hole in the top dust cover for the meter adjustment.
> Jerk all of the modules out of it and rip it's gizzard out and scatter and
> toss the parts around! I tried, but I managed to not loose any of the 
> parts
> and didn't even have any extra ones left over.
>
> Chassis: Tested the dial lamps, checked the value of all of the resistors,
> the diode, the 2 capacitors, the meters, tested the selenium rectifier, 
> and
> the antenna relay and inspected the contacts in the relay. Verified 
> function
> of the main power micro switch, it's placement, and measured the 
> resistance
> of it. Measured the resistance of all of the front panel switches and
> potentiometers, and very lightly lubed the shafts of each, checked the 
> ovens
> switch, verified the values of the fuses, checked their resistance, 
> replaced
> one of the fuse holders that I didn't like the look of with a NOS one, and
> replaced the rear panel IF connector, the center terminal was missing.
> Checked the line filter, and checked the tightness on all of the screws
> holding the whole damn mess together. I removed all of the knobs and
> inspected and lightly lubed the set screws. Also verified that the index
> washers were installed in the two big knobs that prevent the clamps from
> turning. The next step ate up a lot of time. I removed all of the hoods of
> the chassis connectors to inspect and then measured the resistance of 
> EVERY
> damn wire in the chassis. Then I installed a NOS military 3 wire 8 foot
> rubber 16 gauge power cord with a molded plug. Nice and flexible SJ. The
> original strain clamp for the cord was still there. First one I've ever
> seen. :-)
>
> Power supply module: visual inspection, resistance readings of the
> transformer windings, and wiring, inspected the solder connections, 
> verified
> 115 volt setting, stuffed two new 26Z5W's in it. Checked all of the screws
> and nuts for tightness.
>
> PTO: Why bother? Chunked it in the R390A parts pile and installed an Army
> rebuilt Cosmos that I've been sitting on for about ten years, sealed in 
> the
> box, to replace the Cosmos that was in there. It turned out that the
> endpoint was out a little less than 2 KHz, and linear within a little less
> than 200 Hz across the spectrum. I don't know what the specs on it where
> when it left their hands in Feb. of 1984 but it sure aged well. :-) I 
> guess
> that I'll let it run a few weeks and then adjust the endpoint. I did power
> up the oven and verified that the thermostat worked, measured the 
> resistance
> of the transformer, and tested the tube. I like the Cosmos PTO's. That 
> blue
> label sure is pretty, bubba! On a side note, I probably use a bit more
> complicated method than most people do when fitting a PTO to a receiver. 
> If
> you're going to do it right, it might as well be done right the first 
> time.
> Both halves of the Oldham coupler should be perfectly parallel to each 
> other
> and the centerline of both shafts should be perfectly in line with each
> other on both planes. I only spent about an hour adjusting the position 
> and
> height of the PTO in the chassis, but spent several hours measuring the
> components and setting up the fixtures to measure other aspects of the
> components. I first measured the run out of each half of the couplings 
> while
> installed on their shafts. The one on the PTO was true within .001. The 
> one
> on the KHz shaft of the RF deck was machined improperly. he rib was .003 
> off
> to one side and wasn't square with the bore either. I tossed it and pulled 
> a
> few others out of spares. It took several before I found one that was 
> square
> with the bore and only had a little more than 0.001 run out. The next step
> was to check the center section. The width of the two groves seems pretty
> consistent, but I was curious if the two groves were machined at exactly 
> 90
> degree angles to each other. The groves were of a dimension that I didn't
> have any key stock for so I used two 12" long pieces of 1/4" ground steel
> rod. I centered the two pieces of rod, lengthwise, one in each of the two
> grooves, clamped the three pieces together. Then by measuring and 
> comparing
> the distances between the four rod ends, I could determine the exact angle
> that the grooves were from each other. This part of the process was a 
> wasted
> effort, the coupling center piece from the EAC was 90 degrees like it 
> should
> be and so where the ones in spares that I checked. When I finally 
> assembled
> the receiver and physically aligned the PTO to the chassis, mechanically 
> and
> electrically, the dial indicator measured a total movement in the center
> section of the Oldham coupling of .003 when the KHz knob is turned. Close
> enough! Put that spring on! Oh, I used a little dab of Pennzoil wheel
> bearing
> grease to lube the coupling. It's red and contrasts, in a pleasing 
> fashion,
> the blue label of the Cosmos PTO. :-)
>
> Crystal Oscillator Module: Tested the tube, and tightened the screws 
> holding
> the tube socket to the chassis, they were loose. Checked resistor values,
> transformer windings and crystals. Bad 10 MHz crystal, throw one in it 
> from
> spares. Most are still on the money, the few that are "off" are well 
> within
> 1 KHz or maybe a shade more. I decided against spending ~250 dollars on 
> new
> ones. Measured the resistance of all of the wiring and switch contacts and
> tested all of the fixed capacitors and spun all of the trimmers a couple 
> of
> turns. Powered up the oven and verified function of the thermostat. Also,
> "timed" the two switch bodies. They were "off" a bit. Then when thru and 
> re
> tested everything on it's underside just to make sure. I figured that
> anything that was a pain to remove, I double check everything.
>
> Audio module: One of the original plug in electrolytic caps showed signs 
> of
> leaking, tossed it in the trash, installed another one from spares. 
> Reformed
> both, leakage at 50 volts over the rated voltage was less than 1 ma. per
> section after reforming. I fused them and ran them for a couple of weeks 
> at
> full rated voltage on one of the HV supplies, they didn't explode and
> leakage declined even further. Good enough, bubba! (yeah, I know, Doc, but
> the power factors were good, I even checked that. :-) Ripped all of the
> paper capacitors out of the module, and tossed them in the trash. 
> Installed
> two new .022 400V orange drops in the location that Chuck likes, and NOS
> Vitamin Q's in the other locations. I have the orange drops on hand and
> could have used them thru out but didn't like the way they sit on the
> circuit board. I did use an Orange Drops to replace the one on the chassis
> under the circuit board. All of the new caps were tested for leakage at
> their rated voltage and tested to verify their value before installing.
> Checked all of the resistors for value, replaced a couple. Tested the mica
> cap, no problem there. Tested all of the tubes, they all passed but tossed
> the 0A2 and stuffed a new 6626 in it's place. I don't trust used 0A2's, 
> had
> some weird problems with them. Tested the relay and measured the 
> resistance
> of the wiring, the chokes, and the transformers. I left the 800 cps filter
> alone. Probably not a whole hell of a lot of R390A's out there that still
> have their original 6AK6's. All of the tubes are original except the
> rectifiers and the regulator. :-)
>
> IF Module: Tested the tubes and the 3TF7. Measured the resistance of the
> wiring, the transformers, the switch contacts, and the resistors. I 
> replaced
> more than a half a dozen resistors that were out of spec. Checked the
> capacitors and resistors inside the IF transformer cans, that could be
> tested. Some could not be tested in circuit. I tested the big above 
> chassis
> oil filled capacitor for leakage and value. Tested all of the mica
> capacitors for leakage and value and then ripped all 18 or so of the axial
> lead paper capacitors out of the module and tested them just for kicks.
> EVERY "brown beauty of death" tubular capacitor that was in it leaked like
> hell and a good percentage had microscopic cracks in the bodies within 
> maybe
> .020 of the seams and paralleling them. Most of these caps leaked at
> voltages below 50 volts when tested. Only one of the metal can axial
> capacitors leaked when tested. I replaced all 18 of the capacitors with
> Orange Drops. For the .1 and the .033 values I used 400VDC rated ones and
> for the .01 values, I used 600VDC rated ones. The reason that I didn't use
> 600V rated ones thru out was their size. It was a pain in the ass to the 
> fit
> the ones that I used in there properly. If I'd have used the 600V ones
> everywhere, I'd have had to move the locations of some of the capacitors 
> and
> a bunch of them would have had excessively long leads. I didn't think that
> this was such a hot idea in the IF section and figured that the best
> placement of the parts was in the original locations. ;-) Let's see, other
> than checking all of the screws and nuts, I think that was it for the IF
> deck other than lightly lubricating the shaft extensions where they passed
> thru the front of the IF module chassis. I didn't test the mechanical
> filters. I tested the blocking cap before I tossed it and it had tested 
> good
> even at 100 volts over it's 300V rating. Whew!
>
> The last one, the RF deck: After removing it, the first step was to take 
> it
> apart. I removed all of the tubes and tested them, the crystal oven and
> tested it, all of slug racks and springs, four of which (for the variable 
> IF
> slug racks) were really weak, so I installed NOS ones in that location 
> when
> I put everything back together. The geometry for those 4 springs suck,
> they're stretched a lot more than any other location. I removed all of the
> RF coil assemblies and measured the resistance of all of the windings and
> checked what capacitors I could. The bridge wouldn't work on some, so I 
> kept
> track of those in case I had some weird assed problem when I tried to 
> align
> it later. I disassembled the gear train and tossed all of the parts, 
> except
> for the counter, in a coffee can and sprayed a mess of gunk in there and 
> let
> them brew. They weren't really dirty, but the original lube had mostly
> evaporated and what was left was stiff as hell and I don't really find the
> gear train much of a mechanical challenge so I ripped it apart. About the
> only thing I didn't take apart was the 6 camshafts and the antenna trimmer
> can. I worked a few drops of penetrant into the bearings of the cam shafts
> and kept lubing and wiping them until only clean oil would come out. Oh, I
> used 10W30 Mobil 1 synthetic oil for the RF deck except the detent where I
> used Pennzoil wheel bearing grease. Two of the cams appear to have been
> stamped, I guess, with cracked dies, leaving a couple of sharp burrs on 
> the
> surface that the rollers ride on. I stoned these down while maintaining 
> the
> original cam profile. :-) When you take the split gears apart, tie them
> together, with a bit of soft wire in the orientation that they were
> originally assembled with. I suspect that the halves were matched. While 
> all
> of the stuff soaked, I replace the three paper capacitors, with Orange
> Drops, and replaced close to ten resistors that were out of spec, checked
> all of the other capacitors and found a cracked .005 1KV ceramic disc. And
> yes, I measured the resistance of all of the wiring and of the band 
> switch.
> ;-) I found an odd thing. One of the tube sockets only had one screw 
> holding
> it to the chassis. When I attempted to install a screw there, it turned 
> out
> that the little "C" shaped piece of metal that curves all of the way 
> around
> one side of the socket had an unthreaded hole in it for the screw. I'm
> surprised that an inspector didn't catch this at the factory. I tapped the
> hole and moved on. Most of the gear clamps were either viably cracked or
> showed cracks when dye checked. I guess that they must have been over
> tightened when it was built. I replaced all of them with NOS clamps to be
> safe. I found that several of the roller retainers had been over staked on
> on a couple of the slug racks. This prevented the rollers from turning. In
> addition, a few of then ends were not square and had to be straightened.
> Burrs and gouges on the end surfaces had to be stoned down and polished. 
> The
> fit and finish of mechanical portion of this EAC RF deck didn't impress me
> at all. The old Collins decks were much more finely finished mechanically. 
> I
> wiped each of the RF cores out with a pair of damp Q-tips, wiped the slugs
> off, and eye balled them. The Collins part numbers on all of the RF slugs
> are all the same EXCEPT the six variable IF slugs. They are different from
> the RF slugs. So, they aren't interchangeable. I assembled the RF deck and
> mechanically aligned it and put the receiver back together. For what it's
> worth, the repeatability of the RF slug racks averages about .001, the
> repeatability of the variable IF slug racks averages .004 on one and .005 
> on
> the other. I suspect that this could be improved upon by relocating the
> location of the attachment point on the chassis of those four springs. 
> This
> would require either shorter springs or possible just creating spring
> "wells" that extent slightly below the chassis so that standard RF deck 
> rack
> springs could be used.
>
> I fired it up and let it cook a while in Standby mode, at 7+000. None of
> the magic smoke escaped so I switched over and set the PTO to 2455 KHz and
> tightened the clamp. I stuck a VTVM lead into the unbalanced antenna
> connector and cranked it down to WWL on 870 and let it run more than a day
> before I did the first alignment. I always like to align a receiver twice. 
> I
> go thru it and then when I'm finished, I start all over again. I've been
> playing with it for about a day and a half since the alignment. This is 
> the
> most sensitive receiver I've ever owned. It kicks ass. I did a few
> sensitivity tests using my URM-25F. I questioned the results so I dug out
> the URM-25D and tried them again. REAL close. I started with a receiver 
> that
> hadn't been abused and tried to do the best job that I could going thru 
> it.
> I wanted something that I didn't have to screw around with every few 
> weeks.
> Something that wouldn't wake me up at night with a burst of light like a
> Romulan disrupter (I've had R390A's do that before). Something that would
> sit there and run for month after month and need nothing but tube and dial
> lamps like my R-1051B's. Hopefully, this will do that. Many of the of the
> steps that I took, were "over kill", but I had fun doing it and learned a
> few more things. The numbers you ask? Lets just say that they're as good 
> as
> the best sensitivity levels that I've ever seen posted or in print on the
> R390A. Numbers, that up until now, I always had my doubts about.
> Guess I better feed the critters and make me a mess of grits for 
> breakfast,
>
> nolan
>
> -----snip----- If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite
> number of pickup trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an
> infinite number of highway signs, eventually they will produce all of the
> world's great literary works in Braille.
>
> --- Submissions r-390 at qth.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:50:34 -0600
> From: <wb5uom at hughes.net>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] What a screw up and a rip off !!!
> To: "Bill" <bmarx at bellsouth.net>, "Radio Collins R-390A"
> <R-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <004801cad1fe$84ff6970$0a01a8c0 at Boss1>
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>
> Some of these stories are of course terrible. However, I do have another
> point of view. I grew up at and worked for a "package express carrier" 
> (that
> was the name before UPS and FEDEX came along and helped put the smaller 
> guys
> out of business)
> Its true, stuff happens on a loading dock, some of it caused by ignorance 
> or
> lack of attention.
>
> In my time of working there I did it all. Pick up and delivery, unloading
> onto the conveyors, working the conveyors, loading the road trucks, and
> driving the road trucks a supervisor and finally an assistant manager.
>
> So, I got to see it all. Not counting the "real accidents of stuff 
> happens"
> ,a well packaged shipment has a good chance of getting to its destination 
> in
> good shape. Anything less than well packaged is a crap shoot. And I saw 
> many
> less than well packaged shipments that people just ranted over why we did
> not want to honor a damage claim. (and we took special care with high 
> value
> items by seperately identifying them, loading them into lockable cages, 
> then
> rolling the cage onto the trrailer for its ride to Houston or wherever- in
> fact I personally drove a $100,000.00 valued box to Houston)
>
>
> The automated conveyor system WILL destroy a weakly packed item. if your 
> box
> is heavy it IS going on the floor with ALOT of stuff on top of it (we had 
> a
> package weight limit of 100 pounds) and for a couple of years may job was 
> to
> roam the road trailers trying to make sure they WERE loaded right and 
> safe.
>
> So anyway those days are gone and we now have the huge comglomerates. I
> prefer UPS , Rick Mish prefers FedEX
> I guess its a tossup.
>
> just my .02 worth  (adjusted for inflation)
>
> David / WB5UOM
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill" <bmarx at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Radio Collins R-390A" <R-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] What a screw up and a rip off !!!
>
>
>> Having shipped and received heavy radios for over 15 years with no
>> damage I suggest the following. Pack it yourself. If you are confident
>> it will survive a 3 ft drop without biting your nails then you did good.
>> Double boxes with 4 to 6 inches of insulation in each box will ensure
>> its safety.
>>
>> When buying, ship the seller the same box you would want to receive it
>> in. I've done this a number of times. Why trust them to the packing.
>> They don't know!
>>
>> I've shipped and received several R-390A's. To Rick Mish and another
>> expert restorer. I've sent 9 radios to Howard. You know who he is. A
>> number of 75A-4's, 32V-3's and 32V-2's, 51J-4's. Mostly all weighing
>> more than the R-390A.
>>
>> I finally lost my favorite box to a well known guitarist who never
>> returned my pet box. By then Arnie was out of those great boxes.
>>
>> I use FedEx Ground only. They pick up at your home. Never a damage issue
>> in all these years.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>> Bill Marx W2CQ
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Toth wrote:
>> > Rick I am in total agreement with you and Bob - pack it yourself and if
> you can't do that, insure the heck out of it with documentation proving 
> the
> value:
>> >
>> > When I purchased my R-1247 it was to be shipped from Florida.  I was
> very specific about how it was to be packed and shipped - double boxed, 
> foam
> or tightly wadded newspaper, Fed X ground, etc. and the seller agreed.  It
> was shipped via UPS, and the UPS store packed it.  It arrived with all 
> four
> rear corner chassis corners bent over and the side panels bowed - single
> walled single box, loosely packed with old shopping bags and some pieces 
> of
> soft white styrofoam.  Luckily it was insured, and I was reimbursed for 
> the
> estimated damages, but getting reimbursement from UPS insurance is a whole
> 'nother horror story (Luckily the fellow I bought it from was an honest
> guy).
>> >
>> > After that I purchased one of the double walled boxes specifically for
> shipping R-390's from Dan Arney, double boxed the radio inside that using 
> a
> another double walled HP printer box and used hard housing insulation foam
> on all four sides inside both boxes to ship the radio back to Rick Mish 
> for
> repair and reman.  When I shipped the radio back to Mish and he 
> subsequently
> shipped it back to me, the radio arrived both times with no damage, but 
> the
> outer double walled box took a beating.
>> >
>> > I'm probably being naive here, but it dismays me that people who are
> employed to ship and transport items for people can be so careless and
> irresponsible with that same property.
>> >
>> > -- Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Woodinville, WA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Rick Popovich <RickP at uei.csus.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Rick Popovich <RickP at uei.csus.edu>
>> > Subject: [R-390] What a screw up and a rip off !!!
>> > To: R-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 11:45 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Well now I have to reply in response to Steve ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Before buying an item on the E-place I emailed the seller as I was
>> > concerned about packing. I sent several very detailed messages to him
>> > about how to pack the rig and he responded and acknowledged that it
>> > would be taken care of ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I even e-mailed again to see if he had any questions or needed
>> > clarification on any part of my instructions - he said no, everything
>> > was simple enough.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bottom line: He didn't pack the item even remotely close to my
>> > instructions; he only used tissue paper and newspaper (not even wadded
>> > up) to pack a near 40# radio in a USPS single wall box. Needless to say
>> > there was damage but surprisingly only to the bottom cover. The box was
>> > so badly mangled it's a miracle that it even made it to me - the USPS
>> > had to repair it at least (3) times that I could see.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Moral of the story is that even if the person says they will pack it
>> > properly they don't always do it. I had to go after the guy and luckily
>> > he offered a substantial refund which I took.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The nightmares continue I'm sure...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Rick P.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:50:56 -0700
> From: "Ed Zeranski" <ezeran at ezeran.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] USPS info (What a screw up and a rip off !!!)
> To: <ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com>, <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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> OK, been watching this for a while......
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> UPS, Universal Package Smashers
> Lost several irreplaceable pieces due to their handling. Hard/impossible 
> to
> get reimbursement. Just careless people.
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> FEDEX, Inane at times, break stuff but not as bad as UPS.
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> USPS, never lost a BoatAnchor but packing was done by the seller or me.
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> EdZ KG6UTS
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