[R-390] Synthesizer Phase Noise
rbethman
rbethman at comcast.net
Sun Aug 16 17:52:54 EDT 2009
John,
You are correct! I believe that most of the synthesized systems had
very few sites involved.
I do know that this site was using diversity systems, and was only for
"sniffing" what was in the ether!
Bob - N0DGN
John Vendely wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> You are confusing phase noise effects in receiver local oscillators with
> that of thermal noise in RF amplifiers and mixers. Front end thermal noise
> can be overcome by added antenna gain, but phase noise certainly does not
> become a "non-issue" with increased antenna gain. In fact, large, high
> gain antennas usually make the problem worse. Large antennas often deliver
> huge off-channel signals to the receiver front end, where reciprocal mixing
> with L.O. phase noise sidebands translates this noise into the receiver's
> IF. Weaker signals can be buried in the translated phase noise. This
> effect is completely independent of the receiver's front end noise figure.
> Of course, if the antenna is positioned so the offending strong signal is
> off-axis, the effect can be reduced, but this is often not possible. Often,
> the whopper interferer and the weak desired signal are both in the antenna's
> main lobe. Consider the case of a station on the U.S. east-coast with its
> high gain directional antenna facing Europe, attempting to receive weak
> signals in proximity to an HF broadcast band. The bigger than antenna, the
> worse the phase noise effects.
>
> For such applications, receiver designers often trade off noise figure for
> improved front end dynamic range, but L.O. phase noise cannot be
> compromised.
>
> 73,
>
> John K9WT
>
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