[R-390] RA17 receivers
bavarianradio at comcast.net
bavarianradio at comcast.net
Mon Dec 29 23:53:23 EST 2008
Hello Bernard, Thanks so much for the "off topic" info on the RA 17. I have 2 of these, an "L" model and a MKII/C3. I appreciate your experience and knowledge. I will reply "off List" Happy New Year, Ross W1EKG
----- "Bernard nicholson" <vk2abn at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Gentlmen please excuse the off topic post But I did see someone
> making enquiries about RA17 Rx s A few months ago and I am aware
> that there is interest in these British Wadley Loop Receivers ,
> this is a potted Compendium of my experience with RA17 Rxs , Most
> problems I have encountered have been due to the disc ceramic caps
> that were used in these receivers that were manufactured from 1954
> -1974, over theyears I have repaired around 50 of these Rxs .
> These are the caps that go faulty, They are very poorly made in
> comparison with modern Capacitors , the failure mode is the plating
> onto the ceramic , the caps that cause the trouble are in the shunt
> tuning in the 37.5mhz & 40mHhz filters ,they are used also in the
> Anode tuning in the 1MHZ crystal osc, And Harmonic gen/low pass
> Filter , when used as coupling caps between tuned circuits they
> also cause ,problems , I replace with High stability ceramic or
> plastic/polystyrene . The caps I have had to change [From my RF
> workbook Are:- C21 , C33,C44,C54,C62,C71,C80,C89,C75 C25,C36,
> C46,C56,C64,C73,C82,C91,C121,C124,C150,C51,C68,C50,C67,C42,C9, C3
> C113,C143 ,C107, Also the Image Rejection , on all these RX s CAN
> BE IMPROVED Its is a function of the 400Khz bandwidth of the 2nd If
> filter, with the caps they had they put up with this limitation , But
> with more modern High stability caps you can make this filter
> Bandwidth at the 40Db down the slope +&- 100Khz so the total bandwidth
> is 200Khz instead of 400 Khz As you are aware signal to noise
> ratio is proportional to bandwidth, and the performance is improved
> and the image ratio is improved over the original settings BUT you
> need to use good quality HI Stability Caps for it to stay aligned, I
> did my RX about 4 years ago and I checked the alignment and
> performance a few weeks ago and it was Spot on , I couldn't make it
> any better By TWEAKING , I used the spectrum analyser. and
> tracking Gen and its a cinch to do ,To allign these filters takes a
> couple of minutes , The other re-occuring Problem is in the 100Khz
> IF. is the Litz wire used in the Final 100Khz IF. inside the IF
> transformers its terminated under tension and after being cooled and
> heated over the years some strands have "let go" And the band pass
> characteristics in the service manual cant be achieved When
> Re-alligning , I simply Run Solder into the teminations burning off
> the varnish , problem Fixed ! Looking at the Block diagram of the
> RA17 you will notice MOST gain in the RX is after the Mixer V11 ,
> So any SLIGHT LOSS ahead of this stage causes a large signal to noise
> ratio problem , also the selection of first and second mixer tubes
> E180F/6688 s can also pep up the gain and give a discernable
> improvement in Sig to Noise+noise, if you have 10 of these tubes you
> would be surprised at the improvement with HOT Tubes , I hope this
> hasn't annoyed too many R390A Aficionados ,as an inveterate Tinkerer I
> find the RA17 s Problems even more challenging sometimes than the
> 390As and the 51J4s that I own Regards to everyone Bernie VK2ABN
> , Anyone wanting to discuss RA17 RX s Please Email me off list
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