[R-390] RE: 390A relay problems
2002tii
bmw2002tii at nerdshack.com
Sun Sep 30 13:41:46 EDT 2007
Tim wrote:
>Of course, different people have different expectations. Some want
>to protect all the internal circuitry against any hazards from normal
>line voltages or rapid turn-on, whereas others like me are quite happy
>to blow out those ancient electrolytics if they aren't up to snuff :-).
I honestly do not see the need for "inrush limiters" with properly
designed radios like 390s, SP-600s, etc.
The two primary concerns would be filaments and filter
capacitors. In 35 years of playing with tubes for a living
(including 15 of repairing and modifying tube equipment and 15 of
designing it), I saw very few filament failures in 6 and 12 volt
tubes operating from transformer secondaries -- and the failures
virtually always occurred either very late in the tube's life when
transconductance was way below spec, or very soon after new in the
case of manufacturing defects. (Failures were more common in the
high-voltage filaments of certain tubes designed for "series string"
applications, where the tube filaments are connected in series
directly across the AC line as in cheap TVs and radios.) My
conclusion is that filament failure is simply not a well-founded
worry with modern (octal base and newer) receiving tubes with
indirectly heated cathodes operating from transformer
secondaries. By the time the filament of any modern receiving tube
fails, the tube should have been replaced long ago due to weak
emissions or transconductance. (Yes, I know, these radios work more
or less normally with very flat tubes, so it is possible that one
might experience a filament failure when the radio still appears to
be working properly. But that doesn't mean you should leave tubes in
the radio that long as a matter of course. If you re-tubed a radio,
you wouldn't ask for tubes that all had 30% of their minimum rated
transcondance, would you?)
Pre-octal tubes (and particularly filamentary tubes rather than tubes
with indirectly heated cathodes), carbon-filament lamps, and other
antiquities are another matter.
As for electrolytic filter capacitors, by the time they are ready to
fail, they have long ago ceased working to specification. I see no
virtue in babying them to prevent outright failure when they are not
really doing their job properly anymore. Failure just makes it
necessary to attend to something that, if one were doing proper
preventive maintenance, would have been taken care of long before.
Best regards,
Don
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