Subject: Re: [R-390] Alignment tools

Sat Nov 17 21:45:47 EST 2007

Couldn't find the Radio Shack alignment tools.  My local store says they are
discontinued.

In my Army Security Agency dazzze, we were issued TK-105 Electronic Tool
kits.  They included the GC 5004 nylon tool.  It was an excellent tool for
adjusting the trimmer capacitors on the R-390, R-390A and R-725 receivers,
and another alignment tool which could also be used like the AT-6241 tool
listed below.  They work.  Go to the web site listed below to look.

Insulated adjustment screwdriver 5004 has no metal. This alignment tool is
7" long.  It is a 7" long nylon bar with flat screwdriver tips on both ends.

Stock Number: 318X805
Model Number: 5004  
Description: GC Thorsen, Alignment Tool, non-metalic  
Price: $2.25 each; 12+, $2.15 each; 

And a

The 318X005 is a Jonard Non-Metallic Alignment Tool. This Two-in-one
non-conductive thermoplastic tool is 7" long.  
Stock Number: 318x005
Model Number: AT-6241  
Description: Non-Metallic Alignment Tool  
Price: $1.50 each;     

These can be found at the Specialized Products Company;
http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/; You can also call toll-free:
(800) 866-5353 or (817) 329-6647. 

Richard
K3UI

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:41:40 -0500
From: Jon Schlegel <ews265 at rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Alignment tools
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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Charles,

Hollow State Newsletter Number 29 regarding alignment recommends TV
Alignment Tool set # 64-2223 from Radio Shack.

Regards,
Jon  WA3MVM

At 11:59 AM 11/17/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>Crew,
>
>Can anyone please recommend a source for plastic alignment tools such 
>as used in aligning I-F and R-F transformers and trimmers?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Charles
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:56:25 -0600
From: "Barry" <n4buq at knology.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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> The seller is Glen Galati KA7BOJ, he is a friendly guy. I visited his 
> store Electronic Dimensions in Tacoma, WA a couple years ago.
> 
> http://www.el-dim.com/
> 
> 73
> Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT

If I recall, I've bought from Glen before too.  Very nice guy.

Barry - N4BUQ

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:10:36 -0500
From: Bob Camp <ham at cq.nu>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
To: Cecil Acuff <chacuff at cableone.net>
Cc: R-390 List <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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Hi

Glen definitely has the rest of the stuff for sale. He not only sells it to
people like us, he's got some kind of connection into Hollywood.  
There are a number of sci-fi productions that seem to have a bunch of boat
anchors in the background. The cases he's got on this auction are one
example.

Bob

On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Cecil Acuff wrote:

> Yep we knew that.....just speculating as to whether the 389 is for 
> sale separately....looks like he has a ton of other gear on shelves 
> that is probably for sale in a surplus shop or something.  Hard to 
> tell...  Looks like a bunch of test gear.  Looks like a General Radio 
> piece sitting next to the cabinet that's for sale.
>
> I would speculate the handles would come right off that cabinet if one 
> tried to lift it with those two very heavy radio's bolted in....  It 
> wasn't designed for that kind of weight.
>
> Cecil
> K5DL
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Arney" <hankarn at pacbell.net>
> To: "Cecil Acuff" <chacuff at cableone.net>
> Cc: "DW Holtman" <tubestuff at comcast.net>; <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
>
>
>> Hey guys.
>> The two radios do not go with the packing case, they are for show 
>> only.
>> Also the listing is for 8 units on buy it now.
>>
>> Hank
>> KN6DI
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:49:56 -0600
From: Robert Nickels <w9ran at oneradio.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
To: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com
Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com wrote:
>  I was only commenting that it is not good practice to stack the 2 
> radios close together like that if someone got the idea it is OK to do
> that from the picture.    
Well...it really *is* OK to do that.  The "bible" aka TM 11-856A describes
installation of the R-390A/URR in the following cabinets:

Cabinet, lightweight, tabletop CY-917/URR Cabinet, med. duty, floor mount
CY-1119/U Cabinet, mobile mount, CY-979/URR Cabinet, mobile mount, CY-1216/U

The CY-1119/U cabinet is a 76" rack that is part of FRR-33, FRR-34, FRR-38,
FRR-39, FRR-40, FRR-41 - each of which includes 2 or 3 R-390A 
receivers mounted in a similar fashion.   What does the "bible" say 
about how to do this?

Para. 14b (2):  "To install the receiver in a standard cabinet such as
Electrical Equipment Cabinet CY-1119/U, remove the top and bottom dust
covers from the receiver".

Later, in the section on ventilation:  "In all types of installations,
allows as much ventilation as possible.  Do not operate the receiver with
dust covers in place unless extremely dusty or sandy conditions 
exist.    And:  "In fixed installations, operate the receiver with the 
tube shields removed (para. 13e).  This will reduce the bulb temperature 
of the tubes and will prolong tube life.   Whenever possible, allow 
space at the back of the cabinet or rack for circulation of air".
That's what I've done with my stacked R-389, R-390, and R-390A - with no 
problem.    In short, it's the dust covers and tube shields that we 
should pay attention to, not vertical installation in a rack.  Yet how many
R-390A owners have bought replacement dust covers and IERC tube shields "to
restore authenticity"?

73, Bob W9RAN

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:19:09 -0600
From: "Cecil Acuff" <chacuff at cableone.net>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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Unfortunately like most surplus dealers he appears to think the stuff is
worth it's weight in gold....

$600 to $800 for used TV-7's.  8640B's have gotten cheap except with the
surplus dealers.  Can buy them on the "E" place for a third of what the
surplus dealers are asking...

Just an observation...

Cecil...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heinz Breuer DH2FA" <dh2fa at darc.de>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction

> The seller is Glen Galati KA7BOJ, he is a friendly guy. I visited his 
> store Electronic Dimensions in Tacoma, WA a couple years ago.
>
> http://www.el-dim.com/
>
> 73
> Heinz DH2FA, KM5VT
>
>
> DW Holtman schrieb:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Take a look at the radio in the bottom of this rack.
>>
>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-UltimateTRANSIT-SHOW-OPERATING-CASE-19-Rack-Mtg-NR_W
0QQitemZ140124482274QQihZ004QQcategoryZ4673QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem 
>> Best,
>> DW Holtman
>> WB7SSN
>> http://www.heavymetalradios.com/
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:22:26 -0500
From: Jon Schlegel <ews265 at rochester.rr.com>
Subject: [R-390] Oldham Coupler Idea
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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Hi All,

I was just looking at the three Oldham coupler pieces and the effect 
that the antibacklash spring has on them.  The single spring has a 
tendency to put the two shafts into shear which would seem to create 
an unnecessary radial load on both shafts.  The gears on the RF 
module have two springs.  Why didn't the coupler designer add a 
second set of pins for a second spring?  I was thinking of adding a 
second set of springs myself.  Any thoughts on this?

Regards,
Jon

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:57:56 -0500
From: Charles A Taylor <WD4INP at isp.com>
Subject: [R-390] Fluke 1900 tech manual
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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Some kindly soul sent me a Fluke 1900 tech manual with text and the same 
without
text. The schematic came through well but there are no instructions!

Please identify yourself so I can thank you, and also send the instructions 
(text).

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:10:43 +0000
From: eldim at att.net
Subject: [R-390] RETURNED MAIL TO "REPLY TO ALL"?
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:

<111820070010.17592.473F8302000DDEF3000044B822230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF03070B
040A at att.net>

Content-Type: text/plain

HOW COME  I ALWAYS GET MY "REPLY TO ALL"  ON THE R-390 REFLECTOR KICKED BACK
AS "UNDELIVERABLE"?

PERHAPS I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG, LIKE NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL!

DO I NEED TO "SIGN-IN" BEFORE RESPONDING TO THE GROUP?

WHAT GIVES?  I KNOW IT MUST BE SOMETHING SIMPLE!

73,
GLEN GALATI, KA7BOJ
Tacoma, WA.
eldim at att.net

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:18:44 EST
From: ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [R-390] Ebay Auction
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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In a message dated 11/17/2007 2:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
w9ran at oneradio.net writes:
ToddRoberts2001 at aol.com wrote:
>  I was only commenting that it is not good practice to stack the 2 
> radios close together like that if someone got the idea it is OK to do 
> that from the picture.    
Well...it really *is* OK to do that.  The "bible" aka TM 11-856A 
describes installation of the R-390A/URR in the following cabinets:

Cabinet, lightweight, tabletop CY-917/URR
Cabinet, med. duty, floor mount CY-1119/U
Cabinet, mobile mount, CY-979/URR
Cabinet, mobile mount, CY-1216/U

The CY-1119/U cabinet is a 76" rack that is part of FRR-33, FRR-34, 
FRR-38, FRR-39, FRR-40, FRR-41 - each of which includes 2 or 3 R-390A 
receivers mounted in a similar fashion.   What does the "bible" say 
about how to do this?

Hi Bob,

If you look at a picture of an FRR-38 installation you will see the gov't 
used spacers between the R-390s both top and bottom. So apparently the gov't
did 
*not* think it was *OK* to stack R-390s directly on top of each other or
other 
equipment when mounted vertically in a rack.

73 Todd WD4NGG

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:56:39 -0700
From: "Tony Casorso" <canthony15 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Fluke 1900 tech manual
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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Hi Charles,

I sent the tech manual as a PDF file and the schematic as another PDF file. 
Both were attachments to the same email.

I am not sure what you mean by Instructions. The manual is a complete 1900a 
tech manual with text, pictures, etc.

It is not a users manual if thats what you are looking for.

The manual is large for email, more than 3 megabytes, so I was worried 
whether you would get it at all.

Tony

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles A Taylor" <WD4INP at isp.com>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: [R-390] Fluke 1900 tech manual

> Some kindly soul sent me a Fluke 1900 tech manual with text and the same 
> without
> text. The schematic came through well but there are no instructions!
>
> Please identify yourself so I can thank you, and also send the 
> instructions (text).
>
>
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