[R-390] SWL antenna

Tue Nov 7 15:53:17 EST 2006

One thing you can try is see if the metal roof can be used as an
antenna.  If this doesn't work make a folded dipole out of regular
"zip" cord the beauty of Zip cord is it has 100 ohm impendence which
nicely matches the twinax balanced antenna feed on a R390A.

                                   Ken de W7ITC

On 11/7/06, Transmaster <22hornet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/7/06, Roy Morgan <roy.morgan at nist.gov> wrote:
> > At 07:37 PM 11/6/2006, Dan Merz wrote:
> > ... I've been
> > >wondering about the transmission...reading about losses when mismatch
> > >exists and thought maybe RG8 might be worthwhile.  Or...
> > >cheap 300 ohm foam twin lead that I now use.
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Consider these points:
> >
> > - transmission line impedance matching is not very important in
> > receive-only situations
> > - for multi-frequency listening (SWL) feed-line matching is not practical
> > - loss in coax due to mis-matching at HF over 100 foot runs is negligible
> > - your biggest challenge, and opportunity for improvement may well be
> > combating locally generated noise
> > - coax has many advantages in combating noise from local sources
> > - coax varies in cost from *very* expensive to cheap. The most cost
> > effective may well be cable TV coax: RG-6, and it comes at cheap (bad) or
> > moderate cost (much, much better).
> >
> > Here are my suggestions about what to do:
> >
> > 1) Download, print and read this document.  It tells about choke baluns,
> > why you need some, and how to make them:
> > "Common-Mode Chokes" by
> > Chuck Counselman, W1HIS
> > <http://www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf>
> >
> > 2) Buy enough "RG-6 Quad" coax to make the run(s) you have in mind, and buy
> > enough extra to wind some choke baluns out of the coax.  Get a few good
> > crimp-on connectors and whatever fittings/adapters you need.
> >
> > 3) Put up whatever wire you can as high as you can, as far away from the
> > house as you can.  Number 14 or 16 single wire is nearly invisible if it's
> > away from the road or other folks who might complain.  Use thick fishing
> > line for the end tie/insulator: it is invisible in and near any tree or
> > bush.  Run the feedline from the antenna to the radio via whatever route is
> > easiest.  Put some sort of choke balun AT the antenna end, in the middle if
> > you can, and at the receiver end.
> >
> > 4) You did not tell us whether you have an R-390 (of whichever sort) or
> > not.  If you do, also get a couple or three TV Feedline baluns of different
> > sorts.  Try them at the input to the R-390 to see if they improve
> > reception.  Fool around with grounds and the grounding of the feed line to
> > see what works best.
> >
> > (The following are partly tongue in cheek and partly serious. Do them if
> > you can!)
> >
> > 5) Take all but one of the computers in the house out to the curb where the
> > junk collector will pick them up. Cut off all power cords and monitor
> > cables and get every one of the ferrite choke cores off the wires. Put the
> > choke cores on your feed line, receiver power cord and the like.  The
> > remaining computer should be under your control and turned OFF and
> > unplugged when you are listening to the radio.
> >
> > 6) Send an email to W1HIS to add more information to his article about
> > sniffing out sources of noise. In the meantime, use your portable radio to
> > ferret out from your house every source of offending noise. Either cure the
> > source or throw it out.  Keep in mind that some sneaky gadgets make noise
> > even if they are turned off, while they are still plugged in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some miscellaneous notes:
> >
> > The worst RG-6 TV coax you can find is available at Radio Shack and seems
> > to cost $50 per 100 foot lengths (with connectors already on).  It may be
> > the 92 percent shielded kind, and likely will let in any and all noise from
> > your house and the neighbors, too.
> >
> > The best such coax you can find can be bought at The RF Connection
> > http://users.erols.com/rfc/index1.htm , "RG-6/QUAD CATV", for $20 per 100
> > feet.  DUHHH!!  You can also get very nice connectors for it and adapters
> > with the money you save.  This kind of wire is 100 percent shielded, has
> > extremely low loss, and will last a very long time even outside.  They will
> > be glad to put a GOOD crimp connector on one end (or both ends)  of your
> > wire for you.
> >
> > Having a roll of coax sealing tape ("B SEALING TAPE,1" x .030" x 30ft. #44
> > Neoprene weather-proofing tape $3.00") is a very good idea for any
> > connection outside.  The RF Connection also has insulators of many kinds.
> >
> > Number 14 THNN (?) solid house wire in light sky blue color can be had at
> > about $15 per 500 foot role at your local home store.  You can use it for
> > antennas, grounding wires, and balun transformers if you care to make
> > them.  After a year or so in the sunlight, the clear outer covering comes
> > off but the stuff will work fine just the same.
> >
> > (Note, I am a happy, and local, customer of The RF Connection.)
> >
> > Roy
> >
> >
> >
> > - Roy Morgan, K1LKY since 1959 - Keep 'em Glowing
> > 13033 Downey Mill Road, Lovettsville, VA 20180
> > Phone 540-822-5911   Cell 301-928-7794
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> >
> >
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Irish Terrier House Ninjas, Beezie, Chic', and Cowboy
10th degree black belts in Mouch Fue, Bed Fue, and
Con Artist Fue.