[R-390] Looking for DAVE in Birmingham
Vic/Johanna Culver
viculver at verizon.net
Fri Sep 23 12:07:54 EDT 2005
Gentlepersons: Sorry if this is a little OT, but I'm looking for a route to
Dave in Birmingham. I know he's on one of the lists, but the old brain
cells just can't come up with location information -- not even the list he
follows. Thanks for any pointers. Vic
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1. Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Barry)
2. RF sub chassis slug rack problem (Jack Absalom)
3. Re: Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Tim Shoppa)
4. Re: RF sub chassis slug rack problem (Peter Worrall, G4GJL)
5. Re: RF sub chassis slug rack problem (mikea)
6. Re: Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Barry)
7. Re: RF sub chassis slug rack problem (Barry)
8. Re: Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Tim Shoppa)
9. Re: Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Paul H. Anderson)
10. Re: Meter Faces on eBay - Update (Barry)
11. MB (Mini BNC) connectors (DW Holtman)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:12:16 -0500
From: "Barry" <n4buq at aol.com>
Subject: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: "R-390 HF Receiver List" <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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I "won" one of those meter face sticker sets and I got a notification from
eBay this morning that the user's auctions had been removed and his eBay
trading privileges have been suspended.
Oh well, as I said, if my worst "loss" on eBay is $6, I suppose I'll be
okay.
Barry - N4BUQ
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:27:26 -0400
From: Jack Absalom <kf4yio at charter.net>
Subject: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
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Hi Group
I'm new to the group and am restoring a 1963 Teledyne R390A. I have a
problem. I'm cleaning all the slug racks and roller bearings and one
of the rack's bearings are frozen tight. They have appaerently been
this way for quite a while as grooves have been worn on each side of the
bearing where it slides up and down the mount. The outer bearings on
this particular rack that roll on the cams are ok and cleaned up well.
I just can't get these inner bearings to unfreeze. That's right, both
sides are like this. All the rest of the slug racks have been cleaned,
reassembled lubed and replaced. This rack has been cleaned lubed and
replaced but I would like to either replace or fix it.
Any ideas ?
Thanks guys...... I used the R390A 's in the Navy and and NSA during the
cold war and Vietnam. What a machine/rig!!!!!
73 - Jack KF4YIO
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:49:22 -0400
From: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at wmata.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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> I "won" one of those meter face sticker sets and I got
> a notification from eBay this morning that the user's
> auctions had been removed and his eBay
> trading privileges have been suspended.
$6 is a lot for a sticker but eBay but they don't kick off
sellers just because they're selling overpriced stuff that
you can get for free elsewhere.
Maybe this guy did grab the graphics for his stickers off
the web but even if he did I don't think the guy who copied
graphics from the original meter to his website can claim
ownership of the meter graphics. I mean there are lots of
guys selling CD's filled with BAMA manuals etc. and I don't
think E-bay would take down a seller just because the guy
who scanned in a manual complained. They probably would
if the manufacturer/publisher who did own the copyright
complained.
Maybe he was selling other "downloaded from the web" items
that really stepped over the line.
Tim.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:02:41 +0100
From: "Peter Worrall, G4GJL" <g4gjl at btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
To: "Jack Absalom" <kf4yio at charter.net>, <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <005901c5c047$76a1e6a0$0300000a at pete>
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Jack which slug rack is the problem?
I have a few spares, but not all versions.
Happy to send FOC from UK if you cant get a more local fix.
Will be on VAC for 3 weeks so if time is not pressing you have at least a
chance.
Pete
G4GJL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Absalom" <kf4yio at charter.net>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
> Hi Group
>
> I'm new to the group and am restoring a 1963 Teledyne R390A. I have a
> problem. I'm cleaning all the slug racks and roller bearings and one of
> the rack's bearings are frozen tight. They have appaerently been this
> way for quite a while as grooves have been worn on each side of the
> bearing where it slides up and down the mount. The outer bearings on
> this particular rack that roll on the cams are ok and cleaned up well. I
> just can't get these inner bearings to unfreeze. That's right, both sides
> are like this. All the rest of the slug racks have been cleaned,
> reassembled lubed and replaced. This rack has been cleaned lubed and
> replaced but I would like to either replace or fix it.
>
> Any ideas ?
> Thanks guys...... I used the R390A 's in the Navy and and NSA during the
> cold war and Vietnam. What a machine/rig!!!!!
>
> 73 - Jack KF4YIO
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:09:03 -0500
From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
Subject: Re: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
To: Jack Absalom <kf4yio at charter.net>
Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <20050923090903.A58218 at mikea.ath.cx>
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 09:27:26AM -0400, Jack Absalom wrote:
> Hi Group
>
> I'm new to the group and am restoring a 1963 Teledyne R390A. I have a
> problem. I'm cleaning all the slug racks and roller bearings and one
> of the rack's bearings are frozen tight. They have appaerently been
> this way for quite a while as grooves have been worn on each side of the
> bearing where it slides up and down the mount. The outer bearings on
> this particular rack that roll on the cams are ok and cleaned up well.
> I just can't get these inner bearings to unfreeze. That's right, both
> sides are like this. All the rest of the slug racks have been cleaned,
> reassembled lubed and replaced. This rack has been cleaned lubed and
> replaced but I would like to either replace or fix it.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks guys...... I used the R390A 's in the Navy and and NSA during the
> cold war and Vietnam. What a machine/rig!!!!!
I think Fair Radio is still selling RF decks; I know they used to, and
have some from there. I think they have the slug racks.
Check with Fair first, to see if they'll sell you a slug rack or RF deck.
If they're out or won't part one out for you, then get back with me and
I'll see what we can work out.
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea at mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:20:45 -0500
From: "Barry" <n4buq at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c5c049$fe13e730$8ab88781 at ingrimgs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Well, $5 + $1 shipping would have been a good price for me if these had been
high-quality images on some of the better "sticker" media I've heard about.
I'm pretty sure I couldn't buy a pack of that stuff for less than that so I
was figuring this would have been a good deal for me since I wouldn't have
any use for the stuff much of anywhere else. When I saw the finished
product, however...
It pays to ask questions. I just didn't bother this time because the price
was reasonable and I was figuring it was someone out there really trying to
help out us R390[A] owners. Caveat emptor.
Barry - N4BUQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at wmata.com>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
> I "won" one of those meter face sticker sets and I got
> a notification from eBay this morning that the user's
> auctions had been removed and his eBay
> trading privileges have been suspended.
$6 is a lot for a sticker but eBay but they don't kick off
sellers just because they're selling overpriced stuff that
you can get for free elsewhere.
Maybe this guy did grab the graphics for his stickers off
the web but even if he did I don't think the guy who copied
graphics from the original meter to his website can claim
ownership of the meter graphics. I mean there are lots of
guys selling CD's filled with BAMA manuals etc. and I don't
think E-bay would take down a seller just because the guy
who scanned in a manual complained. They probably would
if the manufacturer/publisher who did own the copyright
complained.
Maybe he was selling other "downloaded from the web" items
that really stepped over the line.
Tim.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:22:37 -0500
From: "Barry" <n4buq at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
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Didn't some of the slug racks have non-rolling "bearings"? In other words,
they were there just to keep the slug rack aligned, but didn't roll. I
think some of my Motorola racks are that way. Perhaps your RF deck has a
renegade slug rack from another deck?
Barry - N4BUQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Absalom" <kf4yio at charter.net>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: [R-390] RF sub chassis slug rack problem
> Hi Group
>
> I'm new to the group and am restoring a 1963 Teledyne R390A. I have a
> problem. I'm cleaning all the slug racks and roller bearings and one
> of the rack's bearings are frozen tight. They have appaerently been
> this way for quite a while as grooves have been worn on each side of the
> bearing where it slides up and down the mount. The outer bearings on
> this particular rack that roll on the cams are ok and cleaned up well.
> I just can't get these inner bearings to unfreeze. That's right, both
> sides are like this. All the rest of the slug racks have been cleaned,
> reassembled lubed and replaced. This rack has been cleaned lubed and
> replaced but I would like to either replace or fix it.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks guys...... I used the R390A 's in the Navy and and NSA during the
> cold war and Vietnam. What a machine/rig!!!!!
>
> 73 - Jack KF4YIO
> _____________________________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:58:02 -0400
From: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at wmata.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <s333dfd2.005 at wmata.com>
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> if these had been high-quality images on some of the better
> "sticker" media I've heard about.
Not that I have anything against those who make high-resolution
raster scans of dials, meter faces, etc., for others to use, but
for the ultimate quality these graphics ought to be presented
in a vector rather than bitmap format. That way you get full
resolution out of whatever media they finally get printed on.
Good vector formats (including PDF, which also supports
raster images) have no problem at all doing arcs, putting
text along a curved baseline, etc. And it looks wonderful
no matter what resolution you zoom in to, there's no pixellation
in the "vector original" at all.
At my day job I've done some SVG (scalable vector graphics) that looks
wonderful at any zoom level.
If I ever get around to making my own artwork for some as-of-yet
hypothetical R-390A meters I'll do it as vector PDF files and
let everybody here know :-).
Tim.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:02:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Paul H. Anderson" <paul at pdq.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa at wmata.com>
Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <20050923110023.M18429 at login.pdq.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
The other aspect of the problem is that different meter faces are
different sizes and shapes, with different locations of mounting holes,
etc.
To be 'perfect', we need a high resolution ink mask for each of the
various common types of meters - ideal, simpson, international, etc.
Paul
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>> if these had been high-quality images on some of the better
>> "sticker" media I've heard about.
>
> Not that I have anything against those who make high-resolution
> raster scans of dials, meter faces, etc., for others to use, but
> for the ultimate quality these graphics ought to be presented
> in a vector rather than bitmap format. That way you get full
> resolution out of whatever media they finally get printed on.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:55:51 -0500
From: "Barry" <n4buq at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [R-390] Meter Faces on eBay - Update
To: "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at wmata.com>, <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c5c057$46752fe0$8ab88781 at ingrimgs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I agree. There's a program floating around the internet called simply
"Meter". It allows you to make a very detailed image of whatever kind of
meter face you want. I don't know what image type it creates, but hopefully
it will have sufficient resolution such that any pixellations aren't
noticed.
One of these days...
Barry - N4BUQ
> if these had been high-quality images on some of the better
> "sticker" media I've heard about.
Not that I have anything against those who make high-resolution
raster scans of dials, meter faces, etc., for others to use, but
for the ultimate quality these graphics ought to be presented
in a vector rather than bitmap format. That way you get full
resolution out of whatever media they finally get printed on.
Good vector formats (including PDF, which also supports
raster images) have no problem at all doing arcs, putting
text along a curved baseline, etc. And it looks wonderful
no matter what resolution you zoom in to, there's no pixellation
in the "vector original" at all.
At my day job I've done some SVG (scalable vector graphics) that looks
wonderful at any zoom level.
If I ever get around to making my own artwork for some as-of-yet
hypothetical R-390A meters I'll do it as vector PDF files and
let everybody here know :-).
Tim.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:35:58 -0600
From: "DW Holtman" <future212 at comcast.net>
Subject: [R-390] MB (Mini BNC) connectors
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I recently acquired some very high quality Coax (RG-188) from one of the
many helpful members if this group. Does anyone have any helpful hints on
rebuilding the straight MB connectors? The 90-degree connectors look easy.
However, the straight connectors look much more difficult to rebuild.
Is the coax shield attached with a crimp? I have opened one up, but I'm a
little bit nervous about tearing it apart,for fear about breaking the part
holding the braid behind the pin.
Does the small Teflon ring that rests at the base of the center pin
installed before or can it be put on after applying the heat?
Any help would be a lot of help.
73's
DW Holtman, WB7SSN
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