[R-390] R-390 Voltage Regulator
Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Thu Mar 24 22:06:15 EST 2005
Dave,
Solid stating the 6082 series regulator is not a bad idea.
A plug in, no change to the receiver unit is very doable.
If you have ever built a simple transistor series pass voltage regulator with
zener reference power supply you can do one for the R390.
There are three ways to deal with the heat sink for the transistor that will
replace the 6082's.
1. Really engineer a heat sink to fit in the 6082 space.
2. Bolt a TO2 transistor to the side of the receiver with an adapter plate.
3. Use a somewhat long (2 foot) wire harness and mount the transistor on a
heat sink out side the receiver (and maybe add its own fan).
First good thing is you will pull two each 6082s off line.
At 16 watts each of filament power the receiver is 32 watts cooler.
Second good thing you pull the voltage regulator tube 5651.
Third good thing is a zener reference and series pass type transistor
regulator will work fine.
Fourth good thing is it can all be plugged in with no drilling or
modification to the receiver. This is fully reversible.
Down side is about 50 watts of power dissipated from one or two transistors.
Remember operators use to fry breakfast and make coffee on these receivers.
I have found more than one can of rations heating atop a receiver.
Left it right there less I got shot for stealing someone's meal.
The R390/A just will not get up to that heat level unless you turn the
crystal oven on.
I am going to suggest some 8 pin octal relays as the starting point.
Most relays come with plastic covers. remove the screws and discard the cover.
Heat the socket pins and unsolder the relay. Save the relay coil wire for a
stealth antenna. You know have a base to build on.
You may not need to build two units. The 6082 are triodes and run two tubes
four triodes in parallel A triode section of a 6082 will handle 13 watts. Two
tubes four sections is only 52 watts. The R390 likely does not run the 6082 at
full capability, so somewhat less than 52 watts may be needing radiated as
heat.
A 2N3055 will do a 100 watts.
If you are not going to slide this receiver into a real tight rack spot where
you would likely scrape a TO2 transistor off the side of the receiver frame,
you can mount the regulating transistor to the receiver main chassis. Heat
sink and large surface area are key here. Plan the large TO2 style transistor to
mount over one of the chassis vent holes along the side rail. Use a socket for
the TO2 type transistor regulator.
Plan a large sheet of metal that will lap over a couple vent holes so you can
run some hardware through these holes to hold the new heat sink plate to the
chassis.
You can hang heat sinks off the 8 pin relay sockets. We will have to do the
math on an R390 B+ line for the real current and the real voltage that is
dropped. Someone on line here will have that information at hand. Running two
transistors on two heat sinks on two sockets plugged into two 6082 sockets will
want to be referenced to the same base reference voltage. You can plan a wire
between the two plug in units
rather than rework the chassis. Remember the goal is a plug in and easily
reversible modification. Once we look at the number of watts we need to radiate
as heat, we can consider how large the heat sinks would need to be and not be
an operating problem. Remember the 6082 have been putting that heat out for
years plus the filament heat. When this change goes in the receiver will still be
running 32 watts cooler than the factory stock tubes.
Now you have a 100 watt TO2 type transistor bolted to the side of the
receiver with plenty of heat sink. You plan to dissipate not more than 50 watts from
it. Do not worry that you covered 3 vent holes, as you took 32 watts off line
and are going to move another 50 watts to the out side of the chassis.
Plan on using two relay 8 pin octal sockets. Rather than play with the 47 ohm
resistors under the chassis, solder a wire into the socket pins for each 6082
cathode (a total of four wires) and each plate (another four wires). The
cathode wires of course go to the emitter of the regulator TO2 type transistor
(2N3055 or something comparable) and the plate wires go to the collector of the
transistor. This will draw the current through all 4 of the 47 ohm resistors.
This also keeps the current spread over all the tube socket pins. Rather than
pass the full current through any one socket pin, keep the power spread out.
Your new plug in wiring may take the load, but consider all the original wiring
under the deck. Its so much easier to just build a mod that will work and play
well with a little prior planing than to rewire a burned chassis.
The next operation is to build up a suitable reference voltage. The 5651 is
only 85 volts. The solid state regulator wants a reference .6 volts above the
desired B+ voltage. My choice would be for a couple 5 watt zener diodes in
series with a proper filter cap across the zener diodes and a voltage dropping
resistor between the high power supply voltage and the junction of the regulating
transistor base and zener reference.
You could get complex and zener part of the voltage, then use a dropping
resistor between the zener and the regulating transistor base. This regulation
would not be as stiff as a full zener voltage.The 5651 reference voltage on the
6082 grid pins has its own dropping resistor under the subchassis. Using it for
the reference may be more complex than just installing some thing new.
Considering today's power line stability (you were not planing to use this receiver
for field day were you ?) you could likely use no reference zener at all. A
little voltage measurement on the receiver as is, and some math, you could
likely determine a 1 watt voltage drop (use 2 watt resistors) between unregulated
B+ (what ever is on the 6082 socket for the plate pins) and ground. The low
transistor base current compared to the resistor current at 1 watt between B+
and ground may be more than good for the application. Some where will be two
resistors that provide a voltage division that would serve as the reference
voltage.
I think this calls for an engineering evaluation and poll. What say yea all?
Find ground on one side of the tube filaments. The reference voltage diodes,
resistor, and capacitance could all be mounted on the octal sockets. Depending
on heat sink preference, and the regulating transistor, every thing can be
mounted on the relay octal sockets and plugged in. Or a wire harness can be
formed between the relay octal sockets and the regulating transistor mounted on
the heat sink. The heat sink may be mounted either on the chassis, or as a whole
separate unit on an extended wire harness.
Some where someone has done this already. Watch for some more mail here from
the group. Some where someone knows exactly what value parts to be hunting up
for this change.
Go for it and get that receiver operational.
Roger L. Ruszkowski KC6TRU
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