[R-390] Surplus Recalls! (was: Is this the beginning of the end?)

Jim M. jmiller1706 at cfl.rr.com
Sat Dec 31 16:26:27 EST 2005


Shhhhhh.  If they find out they will start taking away REAL radios such as 
the IC-706 and the handhelds.  With licensing becoming easier, any 
run-of-the-mill terrorist can get on the air now.  Will they next take away 
internet, cell phones and Blackberries?  No, after all it's easier to police 
those services.

Jim M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Norris" <r390a at bellsouth.net>
To: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: [R-390] Surplus Recalls! (was: Is this the beginning of the end?)


> Please bear with me, and I apologize in advance for this posting.
>
> Hit your delete key now if you have no interest in military radios or 
> surplus.
>
> I've been reading the Armyradios list from time to time.  Seems DRMO  is 
> wanting some things BACK, apparently because terrorists might use  it. 
> I've only been reading snippets, so no details as to what models  need 
> returned for further demil or what simply needs a renewed end  user 
> agreement.  It's been a very heated discussion.  Anyway.
>
> Scenario, a semi-crowded city street, mid-afternoon.
>
> Two fellows are talking on radios.  One has a PRC-something or  another 
> with a long foot whip slapping around strapped to his  shoulder and is 
> talking on a bulky handset (or may be wearing a  headset of some sort). 
> The other fellow has a small everyday  commercial HT.
>
> Who will be the first one noticed?   (I've heard similar stories from 
> military vehicle collectors. WTF?!?!)
>
> Most commercial off the shelf, gear is smaller and some can cover  from DC 
> to daylight -- my Icom 706 MkIIG works as wonderfully on the  top end of 
> AM broadcast as it does in the middle of a shortwave band  or VHF low or 
> air band or any number of places.  It would take a  several pieces of 
> average (average stuff, nothing exotic) mil gear to  accomplish the same 
> thing -- [mil gear that is commonly found at  somewhere like Mike Murphy's 
> and not lifted from a depot or smuggled  in from somewhere else. And lets 
> not talk about spare parts and test  fixtures needed to service some of 
> this milstuff.]
>
> For HF, an IC-703 works many hours with battery power, has an  internal 
> tuner and works well with an antenna slung over a tree.   Slips into a 
> backpack easily.
>
> For non-HF look at any number of HTs that do DC-Daylight on tx as well.
>
> Why would a terrorist need a military radio?   According to "war  stories" 
> from buddies, those in the field in Iraq, etc use disposable  commercial 
> radios.  Some say a "goodly number" of coordination takes  place via email 
> or IM - or even cell phone text message.  How hard is  it to have an IM 
> message with someone to discuss plans, then finalize  the plans by sending 
> them a cell text message? ("Dearest brother, it  is now Tuesday.  Third 
> building on the right, may God bless you"  Boom)  No army radios.
>
> So why are US citizens right taken away in the name of [this weeks 
> excuse]
>
> TOM
>
> I hesitated to post this, but I saw the supplement too.  And have  been 
> reading about the foolishness of surplus being recalled.  Yell  at me if 
> you wish.
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Les Locklear wrote:
>
>> Just received my Fair Radio Sales Co. Winter 2005 catalog  supplement. 
>> Not much of anything in it except some R-392's w/ substitute meters, 
>> checked for $550.00.
>>
>> Since most Military electronics are now being de-milled, I would  suspect 
>> that this is the dying gasp of a once thriving industry.
>>
>> Just my opinion, YMMV.
>>
>> Happy New Year to each and everyone of you!!
>>
>> Les Locklear
>> Gulfport, Ms.
>> Professional Curmudgeon & Equal Opportunity Annoyer
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