[R-390] Trim Caps on Mechanical Filters

Barry Hauser barry at hausernet.com
Sat Dec 31 09:04:29 EST 2005


Gentlemen,

Let's wrap this up for 2005.  The more basic root problem is that we 
sometimes push the envelope on this communications mode.  We're basically 
trying to conduct an interactive conversation in text.  What's missing is 
the tone of voice, inflection, etc. as well as the real-time interaction 
with interruption and clarification, etc.  That interchange about trimmers 
would have gone differently with the equivalent in-person contact, over the 
phone or on the air.  The same problem occurs with private email, but has an 
additional edge when the mail is public -- read by 100's of others silently 
in the background.

When writing, we hear what we are saying in our heads with "full audio" but 
that part of the bandwidth is clipped as it flows through the filtes of our 
fingertips into the keyboard and onto the screen.  No problem with posts 
that are short and narrow-band to start with, but things would be dull if we 
limited ourselves to that.

Of course, there's a good chance this post will be taken other than intended 
;-)  (Incidentally, this explains the origins of "emoticons" -- to 
compensate for the lack of tone in text messages.)

OK, as far as IF decks go, I recently went through a pile of stripped down 
ones and noticed three basic kinds -- four hole, two hole and no-hole.  I 
probably should know, but somebody please review/explain.

Barry



> "Barry" <N4BUQ at aol.com> wrote:
>> I don't get it.  Tim posted some comments about two decks, one without
>> trimmers and one with them, and maybe hinted that there seems to be
>> sufficient room to add the trimmers to the non-timmer deck.  What's wrong
>> with that??
>
> The same thing that happens every couple of months on this list.
>
> A "regular" writes whatever he feels and expects the world to
> interpret it like he wanted (e.g., if it's factually wrong then of course
> the words were intended to be taken only rhetorically and not for
> any fact-based purposes. If it were just a simple and true fact, why would
> he build several pages of rhetoric up around it, after all?)
>
> A "newbie" like me comes by and checks out the facts, and doesn't
> know enough to keep his mouth shut when he finds out that his
> literal interpretation doesn't match reality.
>
> Friction ensues, the newbie is put in his place through a series
> of sarcastic and denigrating comments (often making the newbie a fool for
> something the newbie never even wrote - it was some argument that came up
> 30 or 40 or 50 years ago when the "regular" was in the service and that he
> never won, but now he has a newbie to beat up over it), and the newbie
> learns to shut up and stop contributing.
>
> I'm not saying that all the above happened to me this time around.
> But I've spent a lot of time perusing this list's archives and the
> pattern seems common overall.
>
> What seems so pointless about this particular round is that I fully
> agree with Roger that it doesn't make economic/functional sense to
> add trimmers to an IF deck without them.  Yet all of a sudden I've
> become the poster boy for wanting to add trimmers to IF decks (a
> position that I never advocated!!!).  And all this just
> because I went and looked at both early and late decks and posted
> a list of differences and not-differences between the two.
>
> Tim.
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