[R-390] 17 MHz osc pull from AGC
Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
Fri Dec 9 19:16:33 EST 2005
Conard, WS4S,
Roy offered up some of the best things to try first.
You may be dealing with an old age problem here. Do the stuff Roy suggest
first it easy, painless and most likely to fix the problem.
I was thinking you may have a bad wire in the harness or a contact problem in
the RF deck connector. Not a real open but enough to get you a voltage drop.
My though was that as AGC voltage goes down (more AGC) the IF stages get cut
off. The IF stages and the first crystal ocs share the RF IF B+ line. Plug 108
pin K at the RF deck. As AGC changes tube gains, the B+ line voltage may be
changing.
You may try a visual inspection on the back side of Plug 108 for frayed
wires. The other end of that is the RF IF B+ fuse. A bad fuse could be getting you
or poor connection in the fuse holder.
You should also go the other way and try to look into plug P112 at the IF
deck.
After this you could try a tube extender into the osc tube and see if you can
watch the B+ shift as the AGC is built-up with a strong incoming signal.
You may have to pull the RF deck and do a real visual for a poor connection.
It may or may not be on the B+ line. It could be in the cathode circuit or in
the screen circuit for the Osc tube. It could also be in the grid and the
crystal can socket.
In MGC you just hold the AGC line flat and thus do not shift the current
operating points of the tubes. Signals run through the tubes and current varies
but not to the extent the AGC shifts the operating points of the tubes. You are
seeing a 17,000 to 1 shift on the Osc. The amount of B+ shift you see at the
tube may well be under a volt.
We have seen cold solder in the IF cans. You could have a cold solder joint
in T207. Not an easy place to inspect but it can be done.
Good Luck with this one. Let us know what you find.
Roger KC6TRu
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