[R-390] The politics of BPL
Rbethman
rbethman at comcast.net
Sun Jul 11 15:27:59 EDT 2004
Expert is all relative.
I'm a computer professional by degree and 17 years trade.
I CANNOT see BPL providing twice the 0.7MBps that I'm getting by cable.
The power lines and the BPL systems "shouldn't be able to do THAT
without causing so much interference that they WILL get yanked.
Digital signals are the WORST for broadband interference! It is PURE
square wave instantaneous switching. It's RFI is phenomenal!
Bob - N0DGN
michael sakowski wrote:
>>>>I suggest we keep politics in reference to Dem vs Rep out of
>>>>
>>>>
>bounds. Politics starts more wars on-line, on-air, and between
>countries even.<<<
>
>Hear! Hear! I agree wholeheartedly. While a tangential discussion of BPL is interesting and concerns all HF enthusiasts, this is, after all, the R-390 list, and I don't wish to spend my time deleting political soap-box speeches.
>
>It's quite possible to discuss all aspects of a topic without reference to party affiliations or inclinations, and most certainly without disparaging remarks about any group or individual.
>
>I am glad to have learned that Manassas is active BPL, since it is closer to my home in Baltimore, and therefore easier to study. Has anyone done frequency spectrum mapping over the area? How long has it been active? I, too, wonder what cable's counter attack will include. Surely, they have to be worried. I've read claims of twice existing cable speeds being possible, and a market commoditization price of 20 bucks! That would wipe out cable internet and DSL pricewise, and bandwidth-wise. I haven't done much research yet, but have encountered a few blurbs here and there.
>
>Any experts on this board?
>
>Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rbethman
> To: R-390 reflector
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] The politics of BPL
>
>
> All,
>
> I know we are in an election year.
>
> Feelings run VERY deep.
>
> I haven't heard a single peep from the Democrats about this item.
> Therefore I am making an assumption that THEY are for it too.
>
> This MAY prove to be erroneous. Time may/will tell.
>
> I suggest we keep politics in reference to Dem vs Rep out of
> bounds. Politics starts more wars on-line, on-air, and between
> countries even.
>
> I sign-off saying John's vote and mine will cancel each other's out.
>
> My greatest nightmare is Pres. Gore in office on Sep 11, 2001......
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> John KA1XC wrote:
>
> >>Hi
> >>Well certainly there has been more vocal support for BPL from the party
> >>in office.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >No doubt about it Bob, from Bush on down to his *Republican FCC appointees*
> >Powell Jr and Ms Abernathy BPL has become part of the party-line.
> >
> >You know I hate politics because people and parties become so polarized and
> >zero-tolerant of the other guy that it's hard to get things done. In my view
> >there is virtually no party that is all good or all bad, each has its
> >strengths and deficiencies and personalities, and my Independent voter
> >status allows me to vote my mind instead of my party.
> >
> >Each political party has it's own stereo-typed characteristic which for the
> >Republicans is
> >
> >i) favoring big business
> >ii) deregulating or loosening regulations to support the above point
> >iii) and then the environment suffers.
> >
> >What I want to point out is that all three of these criteria (which have hit
> >home to my hobby) apply to the present BPL situation:
> >i) The war-cry is that BPL broadband is what the American economy needs and
> >it will create jobs and provide much business to the Utility and
> >Communications companies involved.
> >ii) The part 15 regulations protecting the radio services need to be relaxed
> >to accomplish the above goal.
> >iii) The environment which is going to suffer this time is not the air
> >quality, water quality, or remote Alaskan wilderness, it's the nation-wide
> >RF ENVIRONMENT on which all point to point communication is based.
> >
> >To me this indicates the FCC has totally lost its direction with respect to
> >protecting the RF environment; I'm thinking the EPA should be brought in to
> >investigate.
> >
> >Anyway, come this November it should be no surprise which party I'll NOT be
> >voting for.
> >73,
> >John
> >
> >
> < Bob Bethman - N0DGN
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