[R-390] That's more like it!!!

bw [email protected]
Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:06:39 -0600


Jerry (Dr. Jerry) left because he was mad at Carl. I heard from Jerry a 
while back and he is still interested. Carl wrote about a year ago. His 
head is healed up.

Some of us are going to rebuild soon, so we will be asking for this and 
that. One member is very experienced and he may be asking or telling.

Most of the 'spirit' that we remember has nothing to do with experience 
levels or boredom. This was just a great place to hang out. If those 
spirited members left in disgust it is probably too late to entice them 
to return. It takes a long time to collect good members for a list that 
does not have a bad reputation. I guess we will have to wait a while 
longer for a resusitation........

I don't remember Nolan ever being cut off with his 'southern style' of 
humor. However, being from the South I am partial to 'southern style' 
humor. Nolan was a very popular part of the list. He contributed a lot 
of knowledge, lore, and fun. This is probably the lightning rod test on 
the whole censorship thread. The fact is that Nolan Lee probably tops 
the list of missed members.

This list has a penalty box too. It has been used. Messages are also 
held and screened before posting in some instances.

I have no problems with audiophile topics. You never know what you may 
learn or unlearn. Laughing at the stupid notions didn't harm anyone. 
Laughing is good medicine. Why restrict it? Radios are nearly useless 
without ears and speakers. AF deck upgrades are always interesting 
topics. R390As sound better with output routed thru tube amps over solid 
state amps. Let the chatter continue.

My vote is to not be concerned with humor sensitivities...unless someone 
is getting too personal. We always handled that well without 
chastisement. We saw what would happen if we based content on humor 
approval or the topic censorship. In case anyone missed the scuffle, a 
few new members decided to 'get vocal' against our chatter habits on 
this list. They complained loudly about us. Nevermind that we had a good 
thing going. Some decisions were made to enforce the wishes of the new 
members, aka whiners, and suddenly we had a barrage of restrictions, 
threats, etc. We also had a dead list on our hands, and the 
chest-thumping whiners vanished without a trace.

Maybe this became the NFL....the No Fun List.....I dunno. I'm only on my 
first cup of coffee this morning.....



the other other Barry

 

>Group,
>
>This topic certainly has sparked some activity here, once it got
>off of the original subject.
>
>I subscribe to R-390, Glowbugs, Boatanchors and Vintage Solid State
>lists. I archived them all on the first of July last year. Now the
>Outlook message count stands at:
>
>   R-390  1266
>   GB     7039
>   BA     1709
>   VSS      31
>
>GB is not a moderated list, although there have been calls to keep
>the noise down. But it almost never drifts into politics, religion
>or antenna magic. They are true experimenters.
>
>R-390 and BA are semi-moderated lists. BA has a penalty box that
>suspends posting privileges for off-topic posts. Computer problems,
>spam and viruses are off-topic. R-390 is not so restrictive, but cuts
>you off if you talk about sheep (alas, poor Nolan. A man of infinite
>jest, southern style).
>
>VSS has no moderator and has no instigators. The listowner once
>threatened to close it down and got 20 responses.
>
>In the heyday of R-390 we were mostly new to the game and hung on
>the words of Chuck Ripple, Dr. Jerry, and others. So we learned and
>fixed our sets. Then Al Tirevold, Erols, and now Andy Moorer put up
>excellent web sites along with pros like Ripple and Medley. Anyone
>willing to do some research found the answers to their questions
>before asking the list. Used to be, we'd have a long thread about
>grounding brought on by someone who asked why the GFI kept tripping.
>Now we seem to be well grounded in that subject.
>
>That leaves us with the occasional newcomer who does not know where
>to do the research. Some of us are not quick to answer someone who
>could have looked up the answer. People who become known as experts
>then become tired of people plucking at their sleeve with the same
>questions. And so, the willingness to answer has dropped off some.
>
>Seems like we ought to increase the chatter on how we use the radios,
>unless there is some bandwidth or storage problem. The moderator could
>take a one-month vacation from moderating and see what happens. Maybe
>if we stayed away from the audiophile topic we wouldn't offend those
>with no sense of humor, if there are any left.
>
>I see by the clock on the wall that this has become overly long. Time
>to let it go to compete with the other bandwidth hogs.
>
>Regards,
>Bill Hawkins
>
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