[R-390] Re: R-390 digest, Vol 1 #980 - 16 msgs
Joel Richey
[email protected]
Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:15:38 -0500
Buy em both, parts are available and will continue to be for a very long
time.. (the SP-600 is a better radio)
Joe W2DBO
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:07 AM
Subject: R-390 digest, Vol 1 #980 - 16 msgs
> Send R-390 mailing list submissions to
> [email protected]
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> [email protected]
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> [email protected]
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of R-390 digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Filter pins (Dan Merz)
> 2. Re: Filter pins ([email protected])
> 3. Re: Filter pins (John Kolb)
> 4. R-388 Info (Bud K5IUO)
> 5. Tube Set 390A (Schluensen)
> 6. Re: Tube Set 390A ([email protected])
> 7. OT: 15 MHz WWV Spurs (Tom Norris)
> 8. Re: Tube Set 390A (Christian Fandt)
> 9. Re: Tube Set 390A (James Miller)
> 10. Interesting item on eBay web site item# 3075110104: HAM RADIO
RECEIVER ANTENNA COUPLER.W/HOUSE ([email protected])
> 11. Museum Quality R-390 Non-A on the E-Place ([email protected])
> 12. Re: R-388 Info (Cecil Acuff)
> 13. Re: Filter pins (Dan Merz)
> 14. RE: R-388 Info (Don Reaves W5OR)
> 15. Re: Filter pins (John Kolb)
> 16. Re: R-388 Info (Ray, W2EC)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:02:56 -0800
> From: Dan Merz <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: R-390 List <[email protected]>
> Subject: [R-390] Filter pins
>
> Hi, I'm trying to use a NIB 2 khz mechanical filter of 390a type as a
> substitute for the single ended type Collins filter that went into a
> nine pin socket in my Mackay tube radio. I have a couple of questions.
> Has anyone accomplished this or a similar adaption? I know the input is
> the upper end but I'm wondering whether the two pins on each end are
> "equal" with respect to ground - can I put the input connections either
> way on them? Similarly can I put the output connections either way on
> the lower end? There will probably be other problems, like getting the
> leads from the top to bottom to behave ok. My first inclination was to
> try to make it a plug-in unit with 9 pins but I'm starting to think
> maybe I should just pull the socket out and mount the filter in the
> hole, much as it's mounted in a 390a, and feed the top two leads thru
> added holes in the chassis. Any ideas? thanks, Dan.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:01:50 EST
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Filter pins
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
>
> Hi Dan, I believe the Collins-type 9-pin plug-in mechanical filter as used
in
> the Mackay tube receivers is the F455 J series, the same as is used in the
> 75A-4 receiver. Collins made a whole series of filters to plug in the
75A-4, the
> F455 J 05 (500 Hz) the F455 J31 (3.1KHz) the F455 J 60 (6.0KHz) and some
> in-between sizes. I think they made a F455 J08 and possibly a F455 J18 but
not
> exactly sure. I think it would be best to keep the socket ip lace on the
chassis
> and either look for F455 J series filters or make up your own plug-in
> replacements. That way you can always swap filters later on if needed or
wanted. It is
> no problem to make up a 9-pin plug-in adapter for the R-390A series
filter.
> Both terminals on each end of the filter are floating so there is really
no
> "polarity" with them. I made up an adapter myself using a 9-pin plug and a
short
> piece of aluminum tubing that would slip over the lower end of the R-390A
> filter to hold it in place. The bottom pins of the filter are directly
wired to
> the appropriate pins on the 9-pin plug. I ran the top 2 leads down through
2
> short lengths of RG-174/U miniature coax and thru a hole in the side of
the
> aluminum tubing at the bottom to connect to the other 2 pins on the 9-pin
socket.
> The shields of the RG-174/U are soldered together at the ground pin on the
top
> of the filter. No impedance matching was needed and the plug-in filter
adapter
> works great. I used an 8KHz R-390A filter for wider selectivity of the
75A-4.
> 73 Todd Roberts WD4NGG.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:18:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Kolb <[email protected]>
> To: Dan Merz <[email protected]>
> Cc: R-390 List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Filter pins
>
>
> Either end of the R-390A F455N- series filters can be the input
> and either the output. The filters have 3 pins at each end, 1 gnd
> and 2 pins for the coil. Either of the two coil pins at each
> end can be the RF ground side.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Dan Merz wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm trying to use a NIB 2 khz mechanical filter of 390a type as a
> > substitute for the single ended type Collins filter that went into a
> > nine pin socket in my Mackay tube radio. I have a couple of questions.
> > Has anyone accomplished this or a similar adaption? I know the input is
> > the upper end but I'm wondering whether the two pins on each end are
> > "equal" with respect to ground - can I put the input connections either
> > way on them? Similarly can I put the output connections either way on
> > the lower end? There will probably be other problems, like getting the
> > leads from the top to bottom to behave ok. My first inclination was to
> > try to make it a plug-in unit with 9 pins but I'm starting to think
> > maybe I should just pull the socket out and mount the filter in the
> > hole, much as it's mounted in a 390a, and feed the top two leads thru
> > added holes in the chassis. Any ideas? thanks, Dan.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > R-390 mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Bud K5IUO" <[email protected]>
> To: "R-390" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:08:00 -0700
> Subject: [R-390] R-388 Info
>
> I am new to this list and I am in hope that some of you can offer me some
> advice.
>
> I have an opportunity to obtain either a R-388 or an SP-600. Both are in
> very good condition.
>
> But my concern is to which one I should chose. My concern about both is
> really availability of parts etc for any problems that might occur in the
> future.
>
> I would appreciate all the help I can get and please contact me direct.
>
> Bud McClure K5IUO
> Phoenix AZ
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Schluensen" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:43:36 +0100
> Subject: [R-390] Tube Set 390A
>
> My 67 EAC needs a complete tube replacement. I will look here in Germany =
> for the tubes - but if I can't get some tubes (3TF7 ....) - did someone =
> know a good shop in the US for our 390A tubes?
>
> 73,
> Frank, DK1LX
>
>
> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
> multipart/alternative
> text/plain (text body -- kept)
> text/html
> The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML
> or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how
> to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html ---
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:52:32 EST
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Tube Set 390A
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
>
> In a message dated 2/5/2004 7:23:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
> My 67 EAC needs a complete tube replacement. I will look here in Germany
for
> the tubes - but if I can't get some tubes (3TF7 ....) - did someone know a
> good shop in the US for our 390A tubes?
>
> 73,
> Frank, DK1LX
> Hi Frank, as far as I know, Hank KN6DI has a good supply of the 3TF7
Ballast
> Tubes. Most of the other tubes used are fairly common 7 and 9 pin types
except
> for the two 26Z5W rectifier tubes. If needed the 26Z5W's can be replaced
with
> silicon diodes. Also someone on the e-place is currently selling a
complete
> set of tubes for the R-390A minus the 3TF7. Antique Electronic Supply is
a
> good source for tubes. 73 Todd Roberts WD4NGG.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:47:47 -0600
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
> From: Tom Norris <[email protected]>
> Subject: [R-390] OT: 15 MHz WWV Spurs
>
> Mildly off topic, but at least radio related to a degree.
>
> For the past couple days, NIST has been running a dirty transmitter!
>
> Folks on various other mailing lists are reporting reception from all
> over the CONUS of spurs at +/- 26 KHz from WWV's 15 MHz
> frequency. I can hear them here at 14.974 and 15.026 at about S2
> to S3, making it only down only around 40 dB from the main signal at S9.
> ( My HP 8640B generator confirms the S meter to be sort of mostly
> accurate on my Icom 756 Pro, I double checked) Heck of a strong signal
> for such a boo boo, VOACAP calculates S2 to be around -8.16 dBuV, that
> calculating out to be about -115.5 dBm, or around .39 microvolts. (I was
> bored, sorry) Especially bad is that NIST is the one making the boo boo.
> Maybe I am being so hard on NIST because I work for a cal lab, dunno.
>
> Take a listen Friday during daylight hours and see if it is still there.
> I it is on its 2nd or 3rd day of being there, and you'd think they would
> have it fixed by now.
>
>
> Tom KA4RKT
> Manchester, TN
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:53:03 -0500
> To: <[email protected]>
> From: Christian Fandt <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Tube Set 390A
>
> A *complete* tube replacement? Did something happen to the existing
tubes??
> Breakage, theft or just to replace old with new?
>
> If just replacing all with new, you may be in for a complete alignment
job.
> Prepare yourself for an adventure if you are not experienced :-)
>
> But why replace all with new? Unless this unit has been run hard and
> absolutely to death, there will be many existing tubes who may still
> perform very well in their present positions. Or maybe the unit was run
> accidentally at 240 volt mains while set at 115 volts for a short time
> which caused some tubes to fail? Been there, done that myself :(
>
> The 3TF7 could be replaced, as an emergency measure at least, with a
12BH7.
> It just controls the filament current to that required by the PTO tube
> filaments. Or even replace the PTO tubes with 12BA6's and short circuit
the
> 3TF7 socket by plugging a thin copper wire into the two appropriate socket
> pins. Those fixes are very easy to reverse if you prefer to have a 3TF7
> -whenever you find one.
>
> Regards, Chris
>
> NNNN
>
> Upon the date 12:43 AM 2/6/04 +0100, Schluensen said something like:
> >My 67 EAC needs a complete tube replacement. I will look here in Germany
> >for the tubes - but if I can't get some tubes (3TF7 ....) - did someone
> >know a good shop in the US for our 390A tubes?
> >
> >73,
> >Frank, DK1LX
> >
> >
> >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
> >multipart/alternative
> > text/plain (text body -- kept)
> > text/html
> >The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML
> >or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how
> >to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html ---
> >_______________________________________________
> >R-390 mailing list
> >[email protected]
> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
>
> Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
> Jamestown, NY USA [email protected]
> Member of Antique Wireless Association
> URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "James Miller" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Tube Set 390A
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:19:30 -0500
>
> Here is the Antique Electronic Supply Web site:
>
> http://www.tubesandmore.com/
>
> Also you often see complete 390a tube sets for sale on eBay.
>
> 73
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Tube Set 390A
>
>
> > In a message dated 2/5/2004 7:23:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
> > My 67 EAC needs a complete tube replacement. I will look here in Germany
> for
> > the tubes - but if I can't get some tubes (3TF7 ....) - did someone know
a
> > good shop in the US for our 390A tubes?
> >
> > 73,
> > Frank, DK1LX
> > Hi Frank, as far as I know, Hank KN6DI has a good supply of the 3TF7
> Ballast
> > Tubes. Most of the other tubes used are fairly common 7 and 9 pin types
> except
> > for the two 26Z5W rectifier tubes. If needed the 26Z5W's can be replaced
> with
> > silicon diodes. Also someone on the e-place is currently selling a
> complete
> > set of tubes for the R-390A minus the 3TF7. Antique Electronic Supply
is
> a
> > good source for tubes. 73 Todd Roberts WD4NGG.
> > _______________________________________________
> > R-390 mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 18:35:33 PST
> Subject: [R-390] Interesting item on eBay web site item# 3075110104: HAM
RADIO RECEIVER ANTENNA COUPLER.W/HOUSE
>
> Nice Receiver Antenna multicoupler. Price is a little stiff for me but I
guess you couldn't buy the 20each 692's for that....
> RICH WA6KNW
>
> Title of item: HAM RADIO RECEIVER ANTENNA COUPLER.W/HOUSE
> Seller: dknh
> Starts: Jan-29-04 18:59:00 PST
> Ends: Feb-05-04 18:59:00 PST
> Price: Starts at $299.00
>
> To bid on the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?RedirectEnter&partner=777701&loc=ht
tp%3A%2F%2Fcgi%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI%2Edll%3FViewItem%26item%3D30751
10104%26category%3D4673%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AEF%3AUS%3A1
>
>
> Item Description:
> HAM RADIO RECEIVER ANTENNA COUPLER.W/HOUSE BRAND.MILITARY VERSION
CU-656-U..USED TO COUPLE COLLINS 390 391 SERIES RECEIVERS AND OTHERS..21
TUBES.20-6DJ8/6922. I INTERNAL.8-EXTERNAL CONNECTORS..HAS BUILT IN TUBE
TESTER THAT TEST ALL TUBES WITHOUT PULLING THEM..WAS WORKING FINE..SOLD AS
IS SEE PICTURES FOR DETAILS..On Jan-30-04 at 07:49:48 PST, seller added the
following information:Western Union® Auction Payments — auction
payments made easy
>
>
>
>
>
> Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:33:07 EST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [R-390] Museum Quality R-390 Non-A on the E-Place
>
> There is currently a Museum Quality R-390 up for auction on the E-Place,
> auction No. 3076297101, end date Feb.11. The radio looks absolutely
gorgeous and
> in mint condition. The seller has a gallery of 15 nice closeup pictures of
> the rig. It is worth visiting for the pictures alone! If you ever wanted
to see
> what a like-new R-390 Non-A looks like this is the place! I downloaded all
the
> pictures for posterity! 73 Todd Roberts WD4NGG.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: "Cecil Acuff" <[email protected]>
> To: "Bud K5IUO" <[email protected]>,
> "R-390" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] R-388 Info
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:44:41 -0600
>
> Greetings Bud,
>
> My choice would be the SP-600. That's a personal choice
> though...it's just a much nicer looking radio in my opinion. When set up
> correctly I can't imagine the R-388 outperforming it...But my experience
> with the 388 is limited. I haven't heard that they are that great a
> radio...
>
> Parts for either should be about equally available...maybe more so with
the
> Hammarlund. I see a lot of SP-600's being bought and sold....not quite as
> many R-388's.
>
> Cecil...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bud K5IUO" <[email protected]>
> To: "R-390" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:08 PM
> Subject: [R-390] R-388 Info
>
>
> > I am new to this list and I am in hope that some of you can offer me
some
> > advice.
> >
> > I have an opportunity to obtain either a R-388 or an SP-600. Both are in
> > very good condition.
> >
> > But my concern is to which one I should chose. My concern about both is
> > really availability of parts etc for any problems that might occur in
the
> > future.
> >
> > I would appreciate all the help I can get and please contact me direct.
> >
> > Bud McClure K5IUO
> > Phoenix AZ
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > R-390 mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:04:27 -0800
> From: Dan Merz <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: [email protected], R-390 List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Filter pins
>
> Hi, Pete, John, and Todd and thanks for the helpful comments. I wonder
where I can get a
> male 9 pin plug. I have a vector tube extender but it's a shame to ruin
that and it's not
> really constructed to make it's use easy for my application. I suppose I
could make a
> socket into a plug by putting pins into it that would extend into the
chassis socket.
> Seems like somewhere there would be some 9 pin plugs??? I do like the
idea of keeping the
> original socket on the radio chassis, Dan.
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan, I believe the Collins-type 9-pin plug-in mechanical filter as
used in
> > the Mackay tube receivers is the F455 J series, the same as is used in
the
> > 75A-4 receiver. Collins made a whole series of filters to plug in the
75A-4, the
> > F455 J 05 (500 Hz) the F455 J31 (3.1KHz) the F455 J 60 (6.0KHz) and some
> > in-between sizes. I think they made a F455 J08 and possibly a F455 J18
but not
> > exactly sure. I think it would be best to keep the socket ip lace on the
chassis
> > and either look for F455 J series filters or make up your own plug-in
> > replacements. That way you can always swap filters later on if needed or
wanted. It is
> > no problem to make up a 9-pin plug-in adapter for the R-390A series
filter.
> > Both terminals on each end of the filter are floating so there is really
no
> > "polarity" with them. I made up an adapter myself using a 9-pin plug and
a short
> > piece of aluminum tubing that would slip over the lower end of the
R-390A
> > filter to hold it in place. The bottom pins of the filter are directly
wired to
> > the appropriate pins on the 9-pin plug. I ran the top 2 leads down
through 2
> > short lengths of RG-174/U miniature coax and thru a hole in the side of
the
> > aluminum tubing at the bottom to connect to the other 2 pins on the
9-pin socket.
> > The shields of the RG-174/U are soldered together at the ground pin on
the top
> > of the filter. No impedance matching was needed and the plug-in filter
adapter
> > works great. I used an 8KHz R-390A filter for wider selectivity of the
75A-4.
> > 73 Todd Roberts WD4NGG.
> > _______________________________________________
> > R-390 mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> From: "Don Reaves W5OR" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Bud K5IUO'" <[email protected]>,
> "'R-390'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [R-390] R-388 Info
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:28:19 -0600
> Organization: W5OR Comcast Account
>
> Welcome to the R-390 list, Bud. Such a dilemma! My advice is get them
> both, set both up and take each for a long test drive.
> Then, if you can bear to part with one, do so. But keep an eye out for an
> R-390A, too. The R-388 has the most in common with the R-390 series
> receivers.
>
> Direct replies leaves out the other 600 or so subscribers who might like
to
> listen in - that is why we are all assembled here on the list.
>
> 73
> Don W5OR
>
> R-390 List Admin
>
>
> > I have an opportunity to obtain either a R-388 or an SP-600.
> > I would appreciate all the help I can get and please contact
> > me direct.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:47:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Kolb <[email protected]>
> To: Dan Merz <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], R-390 List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Filter pins
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Dan Merz wrote:
>
> > Hi, Pete, John, and Todd and thanks for the helpful comments. I wonder
> > where I can get a male 9 pin plug. I have a vector tube extender but
>
> It should also be noted that R390A filters sell for around $40-50
> while 75A-4 filters sell for around $200 - sure helps to pay for
> a 9 pin plug :)
>
> John
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 02:43:22 -0500
> From: "Ray, W2EC" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: Bud K5IUO <[email protected]>
> Cc: R-390 <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [R-390] R-388 Info
>
> I have both an R388/51J-3 and an SP-600. Both I consider to be aligned
> and running about as good as can be. Check:
"http://www.w2ec.com/W2EC.html"
>
> In terms of sensitivity and selectivity I consider both radios about
> equal. The R388 may, I repeat "may", be a little better on the
> sensitivity but that is very subjective and just my opinion. They are so
> close as to be pretty much indistinguishable.
>
> The R388 is of course the winner in terms of frequency accuracy. If you
> are into locating stations and wanting to accurately record their
> frequency, the R388 is your choice. Likewise, if you don't do much band
> hopping, the R388 is a good choice.
>
> The SP-600 does not have the ability to accurately depict frequency like
> the R388 but it is far better for general band cruising. The bandspread
> dial is a dream to spin. Don't get me wrong, frequency accuracy is fine
> and you can get real close with what is provided, you just don't get the
> "1kc or better" accuracy you can get with the R388.
>
> Audio wise the two are close but I prefer the SP-600.
>
> Having both, which do I use the most? And which one would I keep if I
> could only have one? The choice is the SP-600. I find I use that far
> more than the R388.
>
> But it is strictly personal, both are great radios, you can't go wrong
> with either one. Note however you will usually pay more for an R388 vs
> an SP-600, both being in equal electrical, mechanical and cosmetic
> condition. Just seems there are far more SP-600's around than the R388,
> so scarcity influences the price.
>
> Parts wise, electrically, except for a few special purpose (size/shape)
> capacitors, and transformers of course, the remaining tubes, resistors
> and capacitors are pretty much standard for both radios. Mechanical and
> cosmetic parts are of course unique and there seem to be more SP-600's
> around to donate parts if needed than R388s. But if you have a good
> condition (mechanically/cosmetically) radio to start with and take care
> of it, you shouldn't need to worry about those hard to get items. So
> other electrical parts shouldn't be much of a concern.
>
> 73, Ray W2EC
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bud K5IUO" <[email protected]>
> > To: "R-390" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:08 PM
> > Subject: [R-390] R-388 Info
> >
> >
> >
> >>I am new to this list and I am in hope that some of you can offer
me
> some
> >>advice.
> >>
> >>I have an opportunity to obtain either a R-388 or an SP-600. Both
> are in
> >>very good condition.
> >>
> >>But my concern is to which one I should chose. My concern about
> both is
> >>really availability of parts etc for any problems that might occur
> in the
> >>future.
> >>
> >>I would appreciate all the help I can get and please contact me
> direct.
> >>
> >>Bud McClure K5IUO
> >>Phoenix AZ
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> _______________________________________________
> R-390 mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
>
>
> End of R-390 Digest