[R-390] To Xu from America - long one.

[Barry Hauser]

Uh-oh -- let me see if I can help out here ...

Xu -- please understand -- Joe Foley is our resident pot stirrer.  When
things get too quiet on the list, it's his job to post something provocative
to "get the juices flowing."  This is a very dangerous job, but he's an
experienced electrician -- you know, the guys who work on live circuits
without pulling fuses or switching off circuit breakers.

Truth be known, Joe's gripe is not with China -- it's with us downstate New
Yorkers.  To understand the geo-politic of this, think in terms of North and
South Korea, only worse and then look at a map of New York State.  So,
basically, China took it on the chin for us Big Apple people.

Time out for some on topic things of great importance ....
You wrote:
>I juse got a brand new Chinese military DSP HF receiver,it worth $20000 in
USA.(btw, it was >design by Chinese.I think US Army's HF receiver is not
much  better than it.Do we
> need clone R-390?  it is reall a joke!)

No joke, Xu.  Clone R-390's, pack 'em up with fresh new manuals, spares
kits, inside sturdy cartons and crates and ship 'em here.  If the coils are
a problem, let me know -- I can set you up with a source for new
manufacture.

> In my house ,attic and basement,,there is enough space for me to place 300
or more  >R390s.Owing to low prices in China,I live no worse who earn $6000
a month  and my house is
> no smaller than theirs.there are numbers such white collar workers in
> China.Do you know How the wealthy people live here?please to come to and
> look Larsvegas in US.

I don't know about the income thing, but you hit a nerve.  About a year ago
I visited a gentleman in New Jersey who was moving to the West Coast.  He
had a problem -- he would need a second moving van because of the weight of
all of his boatanchors.  The ground floor of his house was crammed with
gear.  He said it's not a good idea to plan on lots of boatanchors on a
second floor of a wood frame house.  So, if you have room for 300 '390's,
where exactly would you put them?  This is not an argumentative/rhetorical
question.  I have a reason for asking ;-()  (No, I don't have 300 R-390's
but ... .)

>   In the past thousands of years, China was the richest and strongest
> country,she was left behind in the recent one hundred years,but she is
> catching up with the advance countries now.Americans lived a good life for
> only 100 years and you should know better than to look down upon us,I'm
> really ashamed of your shallow and ignorant!!

I apologize for responding for Joe, but he might really be jealous (a
compliment of sorts).  Nobody's building factories where he lives, mostly
shutting them down.

>   Lsat year, in the South China sea,Our Air Force 's J-8II jet fighter
> captured your spy plane,Your Govement said  it was our plane that crashed
> into yours,but ours saying this doesn't matter what's really important is,
> what your spy play did in our land ?if our spy plane fly to your land to
> collect intelligence,what will you do?

Well, Xu, this being the last true "super-power" and all, we can't allow
fly-overs -- except maybe a demo flight if you want to sell any J-811's.
Tell 'em to bring plenty of brochures.  Also tell 'em to try not to hit
other planes -- it's not exactly confidence-inspiring.

> Many American hate Chinese because  of  Korea war and Vietnam War,these
> two Wars joined by China humiliated U.S.,Maybe you are right,but I want to
> know,if our Army goes all the way to attack Canada and Mexico,What your
> Americans' response?

I don't agree that many Americans hate Chinese.  Many Americans ARE Chinese.
We absorb mass numbers of people from other countries.  That's who we are,
though some say not.  True, we have been conditioned to hate communism, and
the way it worked out in most, if not all, countries, it's not a like-able
system.  On the other hand, if anyone (politician) tries to mess with our
Social Security system, we'll bash 'em.

>  Chinese Govement is for Chinese,what she does can't be all liked by
> Americas,teh same might be said of U.S.  When it come to human right
problem,the improment of some of them need time,but compare with the
past(Mao times),  our progress is >immense.Look at your situation in the
1920s,no,just in the
> mid 1960s when Human Right Act was not enforce.until late 1980s,your
support
> some reginmes natorious for treading on human right(Phippines,Chile,south
> Africa etc.)

China is a focus of attention on the human rights issue because of its size
and importance.  Our government doesn't put the same pressure on other
countries which we are allied with, probably because they're smaller and
easier to overlook.  Paraguay wouln't make the front page.  It isn't fair,
but it's the way it is.  China is difficult to overlook -- also because
whenever you turn something over here, even if it's a souvenir picked up in
Europe, it says "China" on it.  Hey - ya' know -- that's why the US was
resented for so many years -- big and in your face -- Coca Cola, big cars,
"Made in USA", etc. all over the world.

>Now,you are stili the backstage supporter of such reime of
> Israel,I think this is one of  reason  of 9.11 Attack.but don't
> misanderstand, I hate those terrorists too,and feel sympart with those
> people dying from the Attack.but you should think of this, why not
> China,Rusia  or  France?the  American died for Israel!!

We Americans have a bad noble habit of dying for a lot of different people
as someone else pointed out.  From what bin Laden said himself, however, it
seems the 9/11 attack was more because of the US armed forces defiling the
sacred land of Saudi Arabia in the process of protecting his Saudi family
and Kuwait.  Somehow this comes up 10 years after Desert Storm all of a
sudden?  Fact is, it would surprise you as to those who actually don't want
the Palestinian people to have a state -- not in Israel.  Don't be so sure
you have it figured out.  Things are not what they seem.  Oh, don't forget,
a fair number of Americans died for China not too long ago.   China and the
US were allies, once -- and again.  North Vietnam was a proxy for the Soviet
Union, not so much China -- and maybe not at all.

> China is not enough strong,this is why  we do not declare when your air
> Force bombed our embassy ,  althought we have weapons  powerful enough to
> destroy the whole America.China is not a warlike country,at least compared
> with U.S.  we won't launch a war in the place far away from China.

Now you're regressing to cold war mentality.  It's foolish to argue or
compare.  Both the US and China are peace-loving countries, who can become
quite warlike when needed.  Real trick is to get it done with a piece of
paper, or a D-cell and a piece of wire -- or maybe an 80 lb. radio.

> The development of our country is seven times faster than that of U.S.in
> the future decads,we'll exceed you.I think then you won't dare insult our
> dignity because your Govement is not a crazy.

Oh boy, Xu.  Go better knock on wood or anything to get your luck back --
restore good joss.  That's what Americans thought in the late 20's -- the
sky is the limit.  Then -- bust.  We had to resort to socialism to get
through, and that wasn't really working well enough -- it took a war to fix
it.  Capitalism -- even Chinese capitalism -- is not fail-safe. Sometimes it
breaks and, don't tell anyone, but I suspect they don't know much more about
fixing it than they did 80 years ago. (also, save a couple of copies of the
socialism books for a rainy day.)

> To tell you the truth, your Govement is a good Govement to the
> America,because of it is a democratic Govement.
> I envy you.I think we will have same  govement in future. but you need
know,
> not only Arabic hate your Govement but also your allied Country(for
example
> ,Japanese,korean,and French) !!

Japanese?  Naw -- they like everybody.  French?  I think they hate
everybody.  But -- I really have no idea. When I was in France, they weren't
nasty at all.  But I was in Italy a few years ago, and a lot of the folks
weren't all that friendly -- they way they're supposed to be. Not to mention
that I emailed a guy in Italy who has a website listing some manuals for
sale and he didn't answer me.  Now, I'm half Italian myself ... but it's
really annoying when foreign people don't behave the way they're "supposed
to."

> Btw,I must to say,I'm not Comunist, and not interested in it.I'm only a EE
> and a crasy ham ,a boatanchor collector and  home builder. these spend
most
> of my money and time!Do you really think Chinese Govement is a commnist
> Govement?No!!!

Of course, Xu, you're not typical -- like the rest of us.  Boatanchor people
are of a different "ilk" as they say.  (Blood is thicker than water, ilk is
thicker than ukkumpucky.)  So what kind of Gov't is the Chinese gov't?  Last
time I checked it was .. nevermind.

Y'see, this is the problem of the US now.  Leaders of most countries say US
is the last remaining superpower, etc etc.  Our whole
military/intelligence/foreign policy system evolved to handle our role in
the cold war.  Then, the Soviet Union went out of business seemingly
overnight.

Now the US is on the spot all the time.  It used to be easy.  What ever the
Soviet Union was for, we were against.  Kept the world in balance.  Now,
everyone looks to the US to do something, even when we're in an isolationist
mood.  Then we finally go and do something and get yelled at.  A real
super-duper no-win situation.  Meanwhile, most of us are just trying to get
from point A to point B and pay our bills.

>  I have talk too much because of Mr Joe.I 'm sorry for wasted the guys'
> band width and time.Sorry!

Ah, what's a little bandwidth between friends?

 I'll not reply to any message concerning such as topics.I only talk about
> R-390,because I love it.

Well, there ya' go.  Even with a $20,000 technical marvel, you love the
R-390.  Could never go to war against an R-390 guy.

> Finally,Dear Joe Foley,Why you are like a crasy against Communist
> party?are you a relative of "famous" notorious senator  Mccarthy?  I'm
very
> interesting it!!!Please you le me know!!!

Actually, most of us are "crazy against Communist party", but as I
explained, and you have confirmed, it's getting harder and harder to find
one.  Joe McCarthy would be very frustrated if he were alive today.  Most
Americans are "crazy against" him too.  He was just plain crazy.

Anyway, as my father would have surely said, this New World Order thing
ain't perfected yet.

Think about these:
They say Ho Chi Min approached Truman in the early 50's about having a
unified Vietnam becoming the (then) 49th state of the US of A.  This was
reportedly ignored.

Just today, our Pledge of Allegiance was ruled unconstitutional.  Soon, they
won't be able to use US currency in the school cafeterias because of what's
engraved/stamped/printed on it.  Not too long ago, we had a problem with a
president tossing his cookies, then the next guy had a problem keeping his
fly zipped.  The guy after him wasn't really elected, but we're gonna
overlook that, unless he does something wrong and well have to throw him in
jail.

Be sure to warn your nephew -- They are a friendly yet very strange
eople  -- and once upon a time in America, they made this great radio -- let
me show you. ;-)

I think we also invented pizza, but I don't want to start an international
incident. I'm not a pot stirrer -- just try to put the lid back on. Of
course, you can get burned doing that, huh?

<sigh> I think I like to hear myself type and I was supposed to be doing
someing else.  No need for flaming -- I'm gonna get punished anyway.

Barry