[R-390] G-8 Summit Security...

blw [email protected]
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:20:45 -0500


Hank,

I bet those were the days. Edwards was the center of the jet world back
then.

I was following that lawsuit when I was in Germany. It was after I returned
in 85 that I read that Germany lost due to their mods in avionics. I never
read exactly how they did the modifications.


Barry



> I worked on the F-104 at GE flight test at Edwards in 56 as an ET on
> photo panels and FM/FM telemetry. Neat plane it was then known as "A
> Rocket with a man in it. After the Germans got it is when it picked up
> its name as a Widow Maker. My friend Bill Kelly was a Lockheed VP of
> sales to the  German and Italian Air force. He says that the biggest
> percentage of 104 deaths were German Flt Sergeants with a lot less
> flight experience than the Officer cadre.
> 
> The CF-104 was assembled by Canda-Air under a set aside program,  very
> little difference between the planes. The 104F had a few mods. that were
> primarily in the cockpit I understand.
> 
> My friend Herman "Fish" Salmon was the test pilot on it and while firing
> the Gatling gun at over mach 2 it ingest casings from the shells and it
> came unglued at FL410. He did/was ejected and several days later was up
> and about but a few months before he had his act all back together.
> If I remember correctly they zoomed it to 102 or 104,000 feet where it
> stalled then flamed out and took over 50,000 feet to get a restart and
> in control.
> Not  a plane for the weak hearted. HiHi.
> 
> Hank
> KN6DI