[R-390] auction scams

[scott]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas W Leiper" <twleiper@juno.com>
To: <R-390@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [R-390] auction scams


> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:37:18 -0500 (CDT) "Jim Shorney"
> <jshorney@inebraska.com> writes:
> > Under the Fraud Protection Program,
> > you are eligible for reimbursement for up to $200,
> > minus $25 of  the item price, if it is determined that
> > you have been a victim of fraud.
> 
> BFD. I only got ripped off once...a couple years ago
> for a Sun monitor. Some guy named Rialdi Monsour
> out in LA. Made the mistake of sending Pay Pal, and
> he never shipped. All Ebay ever did was try to send
> him e-mail (useful as balls on a skeleton) and after
> ten days of no response said there was nothing they
> could do. But they refused to give me his address info
> so I could send somebody out there to bash his brains.

You can easily get "contact" info on a seller.  I recently did it.
You click the button after signing in and e-bay sends you the 
phone number and address on file.  They ALSO send the 
other guy your address and phone number on file automatically.
Pay Pal or any credit card based payment is pretty safe.  Almost
all credit cards will accept complaints and DO SOMETHING ABOUT
IT.  They will put the disputed amount on hold and try settling with
the seller.  Credit cards have the best protection of all.
PayPal may also have some type of protection.



> 
> I always either insist on cash-n-carry myself or through
> an intermediary, or they have to give me a street address,
> and if they say don't have one I ask them to send me
> a picture of their driver's license...otherwise I tell them
> they can go pound sand. A couple balked on the license,
> but they never gave me bad feedback because they were
> probably crooks anyway.


Who the hell does not have a street address??
Where do they live in the woods?
I don't blame you for asking for one anyway.
Who knows if it would be the right one anyway.




> 
> Respectfully submitted by the board of engineers, 8/27/30:
> 
> Joseph B. Strauss
> Leon S. Moisseiff
> Othmar Ammann
> Charles Derleth, Jr.
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