[R-390] Re: Hammarlund in the Subject

[Michael Watts]

I was with Steve Jobs at the NCC (National Computer Conference) when the Xerox machine was first
displayed with a mouse and iconic GUI.  Steve said right then it was a great idea.  That led to
the Lisa which lead to the Mac.  I understand that the visit to Xerox was after the NCC.  I have
almost forgotten, but I think the name of the Xerox system was "Star".  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Michael
--- blw <ba.williams@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's right XEROX came up with the GUI and all that stuff in their
> > reserach center that was in Palo Alto, CA.
> > They gave it to the industry for anyone to use..................
> > RICH  @B> }
> 
> 
> Yes, that is how it happened. There was a lawsuit a few years ago but Xerox
> never put a claim on their GUI. An Apple team had visited Xerox labs before
> the first Macintosh was released with the GUI and mouse. Thus, there is a
> strong link between the visit and the first Macintosh OS.
> 
> There were other semi-GUI operating systems. I think Commodore was the first
> computer system with a commercial interface and I forget the name now. You
> could use the joystick to point and click, but no mouse. This was around
> 1983 or so.
> 
> The Atari GEM interface for the 16 bit ST computer was developed right after
> the release of the first Macintosh. Atari sent a team of programmers to IBM,
> who had a team writing the OS...before Microsoft and Windows. Atari adopted
> this and cowrote it with that team. I think that company subcontracted out
> by IBM was DEC but I could be wrong.
> 
> 
> Barry
> 
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