[R-390] Audiophools
Gary webb
[email protected]
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:03:54 -0600
Thirty years ago I could run the function generator thru a speaker up to 18-19khz
and be able to hear the 'noise'. Last time I checked (5 years back)
13-14khz is the best I could do. Even if every claim was true, I would be paying
for a lot of sound I can't hear anymore.
Michael Watts wrote:
> You could then sell them silver solder and retrofit kits to solve that problem! $100 per
> connector sounds about right.
>
> I was, for a few years, in the largest audio company in the world and met some of the real nuts of
> this type. Most of them don't work for the company but must be dealt with in some way or other.
> Many of them write columns. One of these so-called "golden ears" claimed he could hear the
> difference between cables. He also claimed that cable ends are "sexed" and he could hear it when
> a cable was installed "backwards". Pure bullshit. But we had beer and I let him know what I
> thought of that. He challenged me to blind tests - using a curtain between the equipment and him.
> We connected one set of cables and then the other and had him A/B them. He picked the nitrogen
> filled hard line over the monster cable 22 times in a row. We then sexed the cables and he told
> which was the "right" way - blind listening still. Then we scrambled them and he picked the
> correct sexing without error 14 times. At that point I decided I didn't know as much about the
> world as I thought I did. If this was a parlor trick, then neither I nor my companion who is one
> of the most respected engineers in the audio field were unable to figure out how he did it. And
> we were the ones that set up the test - using our lab, our gear, and with us doing the work with
> no one else in the facility that could have been tipping him off. I don't get it and it made we
> wonder. But I'm still not a believer in that crud.
>
> The "warm" sound of vacuum tube audio amps is a proven effect, however. As is the difference
> between one tube and another. The tubes cause distortion and that distortion happens to result in
> a pleasing sound - much like the distortion caused by a certain type of wood in certain string
> instruments etc. It turns the amp from a transparent device into something of a musical
> instrument with its own characteristic sound. This distortion of tube amps has been measured and
> characterized. A number of companies now make solid state DSP processor units that implement this
> distortion and provide the "warm sound of a tube amp".
>
> --- Ron Kolarik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you really want to tweak one of these audiopholls
> > just point out the fact that the connectors are soldered
> > on....with LEAD/TIN solder. Then tell them it
> > introduces a phase delay between the different metals.
> >
> > You should probably not do this to a close friend though
> > and have a good line of retreat staked out beforehand :).
> >
> > Ron.....
> >
> > > From: "Kenneth Crips" <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [R-390] TUBES
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:18:18 -0700
> > >
> > > RE: The suggested retail price is $400 each
> >
> > > 250.00 bucks a foot which solid platinum connectors.
> > > A sucker is born every day.
> >
> >
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