[R-1051] R-1051 Speakers

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 20:13:30 EST 2019 

You have a KW7?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:36 PM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:

> I’m ready to wire ‘em up.
>  I have one room full of M28 Teletypes and another full of receivers and
> transmitters.
> http://www.navy-radio.com/misc/shack.htm
>
> Nothing between red and black patch panels but a rack-mounted photo of a
> KW-7 though.
> Cheers
> Nic
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 5:56 PM paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > They were amazing devices and agree on the wire. Though you could get
> fancy
> > and modulate a LED so your transmitting in the TeraHertz region. Chuckle.
> > Wires cheap maybe the easy way to go.
> > But even if hooked up you would need some current loop stuff to send
> > something. Or even more fun a T827 exciter to a R1051. Real radio as it
> > was.
> > I would liked to have had one demod but never ran across them.
> > Regards
> > Paul
> > WB8TSL
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:47 AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I found a couple of UCC-1 racks at Fair Radio several years ago. They
> are
> > > on my projects list but I don't know that they'll ever do anything
> other
> > > than run via wire from one room to another!
> > > For R-1051 fans curious about the UCC-1, see
> > > http://www.navy-radio.com/rtty-mux-ucc1.htm
> > > Cheers,
> > > Nick England K4NYW
> > > www.navy-radio.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:33 AM paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > UCC1 another memory from the past. I do have a operational ura17.
> That
> > > was
> > > > a cadillac when at home I used home brew demodulators as a young ham.
> > The
> > > > UCC1 also taught me how to home brew narrow band demods for the AP
> and
> > > UPI
> > > > wire services in the early 80s through 1990. They were muxed at that
> > > time.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:09 AM Tom Chirhart via R-1051 <
> > > > r-1051 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > > My Tin Can was DD-938, earlier Forest Sherman class but likely the
> > same
> > > > > FRAM only later (1972). The design of the 1051’s wiring harness
> > likely
> > > > lead
> > > > > the reason for failures. The harness was routed along the side and
> > > across
> > > > > and wire behind the RF connector could weaken and break causing
> > > > > intermittent receive and as you know a rockin and rollin TinCan is
> > just
> > > > > enough to increase intermittent audio...
> > > > > If we had a swear jar the ET’s could have funded our first night on
> > > > > liberty..
> > > > > BTW it’s great to wake up the 1051 Group, I just hope we don’t bore
> > the
> > > > > members to drinking. I myself like to hear stories from the
> operators
> > > > > perspective...
> > > > > 73
> > > > > Tom K4NCG
> > > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:01 AM, John <jlkolb at jlkolb.cts.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another tin can sailor here. We were FRAMed in 1965-66, DD-948.
> > Ended
> > > > up
> > > > > with 2 R-1051's in crypto, but kept R-390A's in main radio room.
> > > Believe
> > > > I
> > > > > was the first in a destroyer to copy the fleet bcst when it
> switched
> > to
> > > > mux
> > > > > in '66 in Westpac, a challenge since the yardbirds totally messed
> up
> > > the
> > > > > UCC-1 installation.  Later managed to copy the mux bcst with a
> R-1051
> > > in
> > > > > variable mode when the 1 kHz tuning wouldn't lock, by pitch
> matching
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > other rx.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Was amused once when one R-1051 failed and the ET brought up his
> > box
> > > of
> > > > > spare modules. Swapping all the modules didn't fix it, and the
> > removed
> > > > > modules all worked in the other rx. I tilted up the chassis on the
> > > > slides,
> > > > > and found one of the connector pins loose from one of the module
> > > > > connectors. An unlikely failure mode except following a month of
> > > pounding
> > > > > from continuous shore bombardment duty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John  KK6IL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 11/20/2019 1:53 PM, Tom Chirhart via R-1051 wrote:
> > > > > >> Pricey! But anything DoD is...
> > > > > >> I was one of the CW operators on a Tin Can, Post FRAM (Ships
> > > > > modernization) the R-390’s (except two used for ships
> entertainment)
> > > went
> > > > > away and R-1051’s appeared. The 1051’s sucked on CW in comparison
> to
> > > the
> > > > > R-390, BUT the 1051’s were stable for HF ship/shore using a WRT-2
> or
> > > > URC-32
> > > > > for TX. Fleet broadcast using the 1051’s were tops...
> > > > > >> Back in the day when the Navy had real Communicators...
> > > > > >> 73 all
> > > > > >> Tom
> > > > > >> Sent from my iPad
> > > > > >>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:19 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Tom a bit of humor in all this.
> > > > > >>> I was in one of the earlier classes on the r1051. I looked it
> up
> > at
> > > > > the time. It could be purchased for $27,000. So that wasn't going
> to
> > > show
> > > > > up in the ole ham shack anytime soon.
> > > > > >>> Oh and it had a oven oscillator... Well as time went by as with
> > all
> > > > > electronics it goes from $$$ to $/lbs. Fair radio had them for sale
> > > and I
> > > > > could actually afford it. Years later they really were going
> pennies
> > > per
> > > > > pound. But shipping was not attractive. There was a place in
> > california
> > > > > that had stacks of them cheap. Think it was Santa Clara.
> > > > > >>> Oh well things come and go.
> > > > > >>> The unit I have works great unlike so many other things after
> > even
> > > 5
> > > > > years.
> > > > > >>> Regards
> > > > > >>> Paul
> > > > > >>> WB8TSL
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:36 PM Tom Chirhart via R-1051 <
> > > > > r-1051 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Paul, as a Retired Chief Radioman I think I can speak freely..
> > the
> > > > > LS-474 is only needed by the collector that wants everything
> > original.
> > > > Same
> > > > > for the LS-206 for the die hard R-390 crowd. Most speakers with a
> > > > matching
> > > > > transformer will work. Using the audio patch panels in Radio
> Central
> > we
> > > > > could patch any receiver to any speaker or multiple speakers
> > throughout
> > > > the
> > > > > ship. We patched speakers to the bridge etc.. I use amplified Radio
> > > Shack
> > > > > speakers routinely but the flashback memories is why I have the
> > > matching
> > > > > speakers...
> > > > > >>>> best 73’s to all us R-1051 owners out there.. if you are
> headed
> > > > South
> > > > > along I-95 in Virginia I might have an interest in your R-1051.
> Send
> > > > > photos! I’m in Virginia just 5 miles south of Quantico...
> > > > > >>>> Tom
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Sent from my iPad
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 10:00 AM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> With respect to speakers I also use a set of high end
> broadcast
> > > > > monitors
> > > > > >>>>> for my r1051. Only because I could. But for the various
> > BC312/348
> > > > > class
> > > > > >>>>> radios its the cheap and cheerful stereo speakers available
> > > through
> > > > > many
> > > > > >>>>> computer stuff sellers. What works quite well are inland
> > > > > technology's for
> > > > > >>>>> $8 as I recall.
> > > > > >>>>> Granted none of these are official R1051 speakers. In fact
> > aboard
> > > > > the ships
> > > > > >>>>> that I served on the radios always went to switchboards that
> > > > > directed the
> > > > > >>>>> audio to various locations that had a amplifier and then
> > various
> > > > size
> > > > > >>>>> speakers.
> > > > > >>>>> Regards
> > > > > >>>>> Paul
> > > > > >>>>> WB8TSL
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:58 AM Guido Santacana <
> > > > > gsantacanav at gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> I used to feed the audio of my 1051B into a shelf speaker
> > > through
> > > > a
> > > > > 600 to
> > > > > >>>>>> 8 ohm matching transformer. It works ok. Lately I have
> > > connected a
> > > > > small
> > > > > >>>>>> Radio Shack Mono Audio amplifier to the audio output. It
> > > provides
> > > > > better
> > > > > >>>>>> control of tone and much better audio.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 73s
> > > > > >>>>>> Guido KP4FAR
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:42 AM Steve Hobensack <
> > > > > >>>>>> stevehobensack at hotmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Bookshelf speakers work nice. You need two of them. Use 12v
> > > > > filament
> > > > > >>>>>>> transformers to match impedance. Its not an exact match but
> > > > close.
> > > > > Hook
> > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>> 120v side to the radio and the 12v side to the speaker.
> > > > > >>>>>>> N8YE
> > > > > >>>>>>>
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