[R-1051] R-1051 Speakers

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 17:55:55 EST 2019


They were amazing devices and agree on the wire. Though you could get fancy
and modulate a LED so your transmitting in the TeraHertz region. Chuckle.
Wires cheap maybe the easy way to go.
But even if hooked up you would need some current loop stuff to send
something. Or even more fun a T827 exciter to a R1051. Real radio as it was.
I would liked to have had one demod but never ran across them.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:47 AM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:

> I found a couple of UCC-1 racks at Fair Radio several years ago. They are
> on my projects list but I don't know that they'll ever do anything other
> than run via wire from one room to another!
> For R-1051 fans curious about the UCC-1, see
> http://www.navy-radio.com/rtty-mux-ucc1.htm
> Cheers,
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:33 AM paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > UCC1 another memory from the past. I do have a operational ura17. That
> was
> > a cadillac when at home I used home brew demodulators as a young ham. The
> > UCC1 also taught me how to home brew narrow band demods for the AP and
> UPI
> > wire services in the early 80s through 1990. They were muxed at that
> time.
> > Regards
> > Paul
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 7:09 AM Tom Chirhart via R-1051 <
> > r-1051 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > John
> > > My Tin Can was DD-938, earlier Forest Sherman class but likely the same
> > > FRAM only later (1972). The design of the 1051’s wiring harness likely
> > lead
> > > the reason for failures. The harness was routed along the side and
> across
> > > and wire behind the RF connector could weaken and break causing
> > > intermittent receive and as you know a rockin and rollin TinCan is just
> > > enough to increase intermittent audio...
> > > If we had a swear jar the ET’s could have funded our first night on
> > > liberty..
> > > BTW it’s great to wake up the 1051 Group, I just hope we don’t bore the
> > > members to drinking. I myself like to hear stories from the operators
> > > perspective...
> > > 73
> > > Tom K4NCG
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Nov 21, 2019, at 12:01 AM, John <jlkolb at jlkolb.cts.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Another tin can sailor here. We were FRAMed in 1965-66, DD-948. Ended
> > up
> > > with 2 R-1051's in crypto, but kept R-390A's in main radio room.
> Believe
> > I
> > > was the first in a destroyer to copy the fleet bcst when it switched to
> > mux
> > > in '66 in Westpac, a challenge since the yardbirds totally messed up
> the
> > > UCC-1 installation.  Later managed to copy the mux bcst with a R-1051
> in
> > > variable mode when the 1 kHz tuning wouldn't lock, by pitch matching to
> > the
> > > other rx.
> > > >
> > > > Was amused once when one R-1051 failed and the ET brought up his box
> of
> > > spare modules. Swapping all the modules didn't fix it, and the removed
> > > modules all worked in the other rx. I tilted up the chassis on the
> > slides,
> > > and found one of the connector pins loose from one of the module
> > > connectors. An unlikely failure mode except following a month of
> pounding
> > > from continuous shore bombardment duty.
> > > >
> > > > John  KK6IL
> > > >
> > > >> On 11/20/2019 1:53 PM, Tom Chirhart via R-1051 wrote:
> > > >> Pricey! But anything DoD is...
> > > >> I was one of the CW operators on a Tin Can, Post FRAM (Ships
> > > modernization) the R-390’s (except two used for ships entertainment)
> went
> > > away and R-1051’s appeared. The 1051’s sucked on CW in comparison to
> the
> > > R-390, BUT the 1051’s were stable for HF ship/shore using a WRT-2 or
> > URC-32
> > > for TX. Fleet broadcast using the 1051’s were tops...
> > > >> Back in the day when the Navy had real Communicators...
> > > >> 73 all
> > > >> Tom
> > > >> Sent from my iPad
> > > >>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:19 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tom a bit of humor in all this.
> > > >>> I was in one of the earlier classes on the r1051. I looked it up at
> > > the time. It could be purchased for $27,000. So that wasn't going to
> show
> > > up in the ole ham shack anytime soon.
> > > >>> Oh and it had a oven oscillator... Well as time went by as with all
> > > electronics it goes from $$$ to $/lbs. Fair radio had them for sale
> and I
> > > could actually afford it. Years later they really were going pennies
> per
> > > pound. But shipping was not attractive. There was a place in california
> > > that had stacks of them cheap. Think it was Santa Clara.
> > > >>> Oh well things come and go.
> > > >>> The unit I have works great unlike so many other things after even
> 5
> > > years.
> > > >>> Regards
> > > >>> Paul
> > > >>> WB8TSL
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:36 PM Tom Chirhart via R-1051 <
> > > r-1051 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> Paul, as a Retired Chief Radioman I think I can speak freely.. the
> > > LS-474 is only needed by the collector that wants everything original.
> > Same
> > > for the LS-206 for the die hard R-390 crowd. Most speakers with a
> > matching
> > > transformer will work. Using the audio patch panels in Radio Central we
> > > could patch any receiver to any speaker or multiple speakers throughout
> > the
> > > ship. We patched speakers to the bridge etc.. I use amplified Radio
> Shack
> > > speakers routinely but the flashback memories is why I have the
> matching
> > > speakers...
> > > >>>> best 73’s to all us R-1051 owners out there.. if you are headed
> > South
> > > along I-95 in Virginia I might have an interest in your R-1051. Send
> > > photos! I’m in Virginia just 5 miles south of Quantico...
> > > >>>> Tom
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sent from my iPad
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 10:00 AM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> With respect to speakers I also use a set of high end broadcast
> > > monitors
> > > >>>>> for my r1051. Only because I could. But for the various BC312/348
> > > class
> > > >>>>> radios its the cheap and cheerful stereo speakers available
> through
> > > many
> > > >>>>> computer stuff sellers. What works quite well are inland
> > > technology's for
> > > >>>>> $8 as I recall.
> > > >>>>> Granted none of these are official R1051 speakers. In fact aboard
> > > the ships
> > > >>>>> that I served on the radios always went to switchboards that
> > > directed the
> > > >>>>> audio to various locations that had a amplifier and then various
> > size
> > > >>>>> speakers.
> > > >>>>> Regards
> > > >>>>> Paul
> > > >>>>> WB8TSL
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:58 AM Guido Santacana <
> > > gsantacanav at gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I used to feed the audio of my 1051B into a shelf speaker
> through
> > a
> > > 600 to
> > > >>>>>> 8 ohm matching transformer. It works ok. Lately I have
> connected a
> > > small
> > > >>>>>> Radio Shack Mono Audio amplifier to the audio output. It
> provides
> > > better
> > > >>>>>> control of tone and much better audio.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 73s
> > > >>>>>> Guido KP4FAR
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:42 AM Steve Hobensack <
> > > >>>>>> stevehobensack at hotmail.com>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Bookshelf speakers work nice. You need two of them. Use 12v
> > > filament
> > > >>>>>>> transformers to match impedance. Its not an exact match but
> > close.
> > > Hook
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> 120v side to the radio and the 12v side to the speaker.
> > > >>>>>>> N8YE
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