[QCWA] QCWA Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16
Larry Staples
lstaples at kc.rr.com
Wed Aug 18 12:20:02 EDT 2010
I think VE3JX has the right idea, especially the good programs. In our area QCWA would have to offer something unique and that is hard to do when the members are retired and not full of "pi__ and vinegar."
Larry Staples - W0AIB
On Aug 18, 2010, at 11:00 AM, qcwa-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
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> 1. Re: 2010 Membership (Raymond Makul)
> 2. QCWA Orlando Fl Citrus Chapter #45 Monthly Luncheon/Dinner
> Meeting Saturday, August 21 (James F Schulert)
> 3. Re: 2010 Membership (Jeffrey Angus)
> 4. Re: 2010 Membership (Dave - VE3JX)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Raymond Makul <k1xv at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [QCWA] 2010 Membership
> To: QCWA at mailman.qth.net
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> My suggestions are as follows:
>
> QCWA eligibility begins at one's 25th licensing anniversary. Logically, the age
> of potential new recruits could be as young as late 30s.
>
> I think our publications put too much emphasis on honoring members way up in the
> age range via longevity awards. I have a friend, age 47, who wanted to join
> QCWA (and he is very respectful and helpful to elderly hams) but he was put off
> by reading the Journal, where he saw mostly people 30-50 years older than
> himself. We need to be more inclusive of "middle age" hams. And members in
> this age category are more likely to pony up for life membership. A Life
> Member, by definition, will not be a drop out!!
>
> Make all of our meetings open meetings, regardless of whether one is a member,
> or qualifies to be a member.
>
>
> At chapter meetings, have at least some speakers covering contemporary amateur
> radio matters, and publicize the meeting/speaker to the amateur radio community
> at large.
>
> Ray K1XV
> President, Twin State Chapter 146, VT-NH
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:21:48 -0400
> From: James F Schulert <schulertjf at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [QCWA] QCWA Orlando Fl Citrus Chapter #45 Monthly
> Luncheon/Dinner Meeting Saturday, August 21
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> Ed, KI4AGL, made the arrangements at China First Buffet, 691 East Altamonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL (407) 830-9700 for 2PM on Saturday August 21 for our QCWA lunch meeting. They have lots of good food. Prices change at 3:30 to evening prices.
>> From I-4 travelling East/West,use Exit 92. Eastbound Turn right on Semoran Blvd, St Rd 436.Westbound Turn Left on Semoran Blvd. St Rd 436.Continue on St Rd 436 to China First Buffet, 691 East Altamonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL (407) 830-9700.
>
> Anyone in the area is welcome and encouraged to attend. YLs and XYLs are also welcome.
>
> Please attend if you can.
>
> Jim Schulert AI4LE
> Secretary, QCWA Citrus Ch.#45
>
> E-Mail _schulertjf at hotmail.com
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:50:56 -0500
> From: Jeffrey Angus <jangus at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [QCWA] 2010 Membership
> To: QCWA at mailman.qth.net
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> On 8/17/2010 2:32 PM, Raymond Makul wrote:
>> I think our publications put too much emphasis on
>> honoring members way up in the age range via
>> longevity awards. I have a friend, age 47, who
>> wanted to join QCWA (and he is very respectful and
>> helpful to elderly hams) but he was put off by
>> reading the Journal, where he saw mostly people
>> 30-50 years older than himself.
>
> Perhaps the QCWA needs to re-focus on it's stated purpose.
> "Welcoming anyone who has been licensed 25 years or more."
>
> I am, however, beginning to see a pattern here that might just
> explain the attitudes and friction.
>
> Everyone that was licensed prior to WWII, would have, at the
> latest, been eligible to join the QCWA by 1965. What would be
> the big changes after that date? Vietnam, Nixon, hippies, civil
> rights and TouchTone(tm) telephones. No more steam engines,
> or propeller driven commercial airplanes.
>
> And the newly licensed folks that got their tickets between
> 1945 and 1965 would have all been Elmered by this batch
> of older hams.
>
> The world changed, almost over night. It suddenly became a
> lot smaller and a lot scarier.
>
> What has happened in just the last 25 years? Cell phones, the
> internet, personal computers, amateur packet radio and no-
> code.
>
> Just like the dinosaurs, they never saw the comet coming. But
> they HAVE seen the changes that happened after the "impact."
>
> Alvin Toffler spoke about this back in 1970 with his book, Future
> Shock.
>
> Perhaps what we need to do now, is to make our goal and
> purpose to welcome new members. To openly embrace the
> new technologies. (Or at least technology that has happened
> between 1945 and 1985. *wink*)
>
> Associate Memberships for people that have been licensed
> less than 25 years years is not the solution. That's only a
> short term "we want more money" for the chapters. If we
> continue to treat newcomers as we have in the past, they
> won't even consider joining us after they've done their 25
> years.
>
> Jeff-1.0
> wa6fwi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:30:45 -0400
> From: "Dave - VE3JX" <ve3jx at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [QCWA] 2010 Membership
> To: "Raymond Makul" <k1xv at arrl.net>, <QCWA at mailman.qth.net>
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> Greetings Raymond,
>
> Your chapter is one of those organizing the 2011 QCWA Convention in Rhode
> Island. All the best on your hard work in that regard! We will look forward to
> seeing you there, barring emergencies or such.
>
> Your blurb is a very good presentation of what several others have said. We
> need something to attract AND KEEP our "younger" members. Chapter/National
> projects are one idea, as well as good presentations that include "some speakers
> covering contemporary amateur radio matters" at chapter meetings, as you put it.
>
> As far as our publications go, WE, i.e. the membership, can correct that by
> contributing articles for publication in the Journal. It is all in our hands.
>
> Even so, we need to add that point to our list:
>
> 1. Everyone recruit.
> 2. Recruit at local clubs and hamfests.
> 3. Create a warm, welcoming atmoshere at chapter meetings and get-togethers.
> 4. Improve the quality of chapter meetings by having interesting programs.
> 5. Promote a project at the chapter level, inviting member participation.
> 6. Improve Journal contents to include information for our "younger" members.
>
> Thank you very much for your fine, experienced input. It is truly valued.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave VE3JX.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Makul" <k1xv at arrl.net>
> To: <QCWA at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [QCWA] 2010 Membership
>
>
>> My suggestions are as follows:
>>
>> QCWA eligibility begins at one's 25th licensing anniversary. Logically, the
>> age
>> of potential new recruits could be as young as late 30s.
>>
>> I think our publications put too much emphasis on honoring members way up in
>> the
>> age range via longevity awards. I have a friend, age 47, who wanted to join
>> QCWA (and he is very respectful and helpful to elderly hams) but he was put
>> off
>> by reading the Journal, where he saw mostly people 30-50 years older than
>> himself. We need to be more inclusive of "middle age" hams. And members in
>> this age category are more likely to pony up for life membership. A Life
>> Member, by definition, will not be a drop out!!
>>
>> Make all of our meetings open meetings, regardless of whether one is a member,
>> or qualifies to be a member.
>>
>>
>> At chapter meetings, have at least some speakers covering contemporary amateur
>> radio matters, and publicize the meeting/speaker to the amateur radio
>> community
>> at large.
>>
>> Ray K1XV
>> President, Twin State Chapter 146, VT-NH
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