[QCWA] QCWA - 2008 Election Results - reformatted

John Peters petersj007 at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Jul 25 20:14:28 EDT 2008 

Because LOTS OF OLD FOLKS don't use computers.

John K1ER
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Atkinson, WB4AEJ" <fred at wb4aej.com>
To: <val.erwin at sbcglobal.net>; "Discussion of QCWA or Ham Radio" 
<qcwa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [QCWA] QCWA - 2008 Election Results - reformatted


> Question:
>
>    Why waste money on printing ballots and postage for the elections
> when the election can be done online?
>
>
>
> Fred, WB4AEJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Val Erwin" <val.erwin at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <QCWA at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [QCWA] QCWA - 2008 Election Results - reformatted
>
>
> Hi Dave:
>
> TNX for your detailed analysis on the recent vote. That is good info.
>
> The mere appx. 30% return of ballots gives rise to other concerns:
>
> 1. The obvious...the expense of paper, printing, postage to deliver
> unreturned ballots to the Members is truly QCWA money wasted.
>
> 2. Were the ballots not returned because:
>
> a) Lost in the mail?
> b) Loss of interest in the QCWA and/or ham radio?
> c) Reluctance to purchase return postage?
> d) Etc.?
>
> This failure to be proactive by many of our Members is also evident
> right here!........That's right, Prez-elect Bob and Webmaster only has
> on the order of 300 Members that are signed up on the QCWA Reflector. As
> a result, those non-Reflector Members don't have a clue as to what is
> going on!
>
> It gets worse!.......Since I set up so many QCWA tables at area
> hamfests, one of the frequent questions that I ask are: "How did you
> like that recent article in the QCWA Journal about XYZ,
> etc.?"............The reply is frequently a blank stare and a "huh?",
> which means to me:
>
> 1. They are not a current Member of natl' and do not get the Journal.
>
> or
>
> 2. They are one of those Members that do not even crack the cover on
> the Journal!
>
> Nuff' Said !............Have a good weekend.......
>
>
> Val Erwin, W5PUT
> QCWA Board Member
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Dave - VE3JX <ve3jx at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> From: Dave - VE3JX <ve3jx at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [QCWA] QCWA - 2008 Election Results - reformatted
> To: QCWA at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 2:47 PM
>
> Here is the previous message properly formatted (I hope) with spaces
> instead
> of tabs.  Sorry about that.  -jx
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I have gratefully received answers to my last question in the previous
> email
> on this topic: "It would be good to know how many spoiled ballots there
> were, as well as how many ballots were mailed out.  Are those figures
> available?"
>
> Here is the information received:
>
> Total Ballots mailed out:    7288
>
> Total "acceptable" Ballots received:      2115
> Total "spoiled" Ballots received:           18
>                                         ------
> Total Ballots received:                   2133
>
> Reasons for "spoilage":
>      No vote for anyone:                        1
>      Voted for more than 8 Directors:           7
>      Voted for BOTH Presidential Candidates:   10
>                                               ----
>      Total Spoiled Ballots:                    18
>
> Analysis:
>      Voter "turnout": (2133/7288)x100 = 29.26%
>      Percent "spoiled": (18/2133)x100 =  0.84%
>
> If all spoiled ballots were good, they would not affect the outcome of
> the
> election.  There is more than an 18-vote separation between successful
> and
> non-successful candidates.  Spoiled ballot numbers are in the range
> expected, less than 1%; the reasons for their rejection are not
> frivolous.
> Voter participation is a disappointment at just under 30%.
>
> We wish to express our thanks to our President-elect, out Vice
> President-elect, and our General Manager, for providing these figures.
> The
> analysis is mine.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Hayes VE3JX
> QCWA Life #33597
>   OOTC #4483
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> _______
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave - VE3JX [mailto:ve3jx at sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:47 PM
> To: Discussion of QCWA or Ham Radio
> Subject: [QCWA] QCWA - 2008 Election Results
>
>
> Thank you to all Candidates, successful or not.  Your participation made
> for
> a very interesting election.
>
> Congratulations to all those who were successful in their bids.
>
> This is the first election that I was able to observe as a member of
> QCWA.
> I was surprised by a couple of factors.
>
> First, the low percentage of ballots cast was a surprise.  The report
> indicated that there were 2115 "acceptable ballots received."
> Assuming that
> there were not that many spoiled ballots, and that our QCWA membership
> figures are around 7000, that would place the return rate around 30% or
> so.
> I had heard the return rate was around 36%, but that figure would, again
> assuming that the spoiled ballots figure was low, put the membership
> ballots
> mailed out at around 6000.  No matter; either way, the rate of return
> seems
> rather low to me.  I wonder why so many did not send theirs in?
>
> Second, The return window was unusually long; stretching to mid-July.
> That
> was amazingly long to me.  It also makes the surprise above more of a
> surprise than otherwise; no one had any excuse for not getting their
> ballot
> in on time.
>
> All in all, though, it was a good "horse-race" with a nail-biting
> finish.
> Our President-elect won by only 46 votes!  Therefore, not only does Bob
> feel
> good at winning, but Len would also be satisfied with the good level of
> support shown for him.
>
> It would be good to know how many spoiled ballots there were, as well as
> how
> many ballots were mailed out.  Are those figures available?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Hayes VE3JX
> QCWA Life #33597
>  OOTC #4483
>
>
>
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