[Qcwa] Contest boycotts?

Stan Yates [email protected]
Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:18:02 -0500 

I have to agree with you completely.  All I have heard for years now is "the
Ham Radio Community is dwindlling".  One look at my old 1955 call book
compared to todays call book tells a person likewise.  The elimination of
the Novice class license , no code licensing, and the flood of CBers with
their lingo and habbits has all played a part.   It was sure nice to have
and "ELMER" to teach a Novice the things they should know.
Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Michael" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] Contest boycotts?


> Of course.  You trade quantity for quality and you will have quantity.
>
> That's what the elimination of the "apprentice"  novice class license has
> created.  The hobby can only continue the slide deeper into the
> mire.  How can new hams learn to be "hams" with no guidance?  They come
into
> the service with a life longe learned attitude, and will continue that
> attitude......
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Tom Repstad" <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Qcwa] Contest boycotts?
> >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:37:01 -0500
> >
> >I do not wish to get into the political aspects of the war in Iraq, other
> >than to state the obvious that the world and this country are divided on
> >the
> >issue.
> >
> >But it saddens me that the amateur radio bands are starting to sound like
> >"CB". I agree completely with Raymond/W5VPU. When I started in ham radio
in
> >'75, hams were polite, apolitical and followed FCC regulations. I don't
> >know
> >how many times I've heard stations engage in long discussions without
ever
> >identifying themselves, hams that think they own a frequency just because
> >they have weekly schedule there, hams who tune up on frequency where a DX
> >station is working a pile-up, and various other forms of rude behavior.
> >
> >Perhaps we need more OO's and more enforcement of the rules and
> >regulations.
> >The FCC has stepped up it's enforcement for those hams who commit blatant
> >and harmful violations, perhaps it's time to "slap a few wrists" for
> >behaviour unbecomming a ham. I do believe that most hams are polite, and
> >follow rules and proper operating procedures... but the number of "rude"
> >hams is growing. :o(
> >
> >--Tom
> >K1VG
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:35 AM
> >Subject: [Qcwa] Contest boycotts?
> >
> >
> > > Hello, Bob:
> > >
> > > I am in no way surprised. The world (i.e., "the people" in the world)
is
> >not
> > > today what it was. Not just what was when I was first licensed fifty
> >years
> > > ago, but even five years ago. Amatuer radio operators all over our own
> > > country today are not what they were when we were all first licensed
(at
> > > least twenty-five years ago.)
> > >
> > > He has a right, I suppose, to respond as he wishes. To talk to
whomever
> >he
> > > chooses to is within all our rights. Yet how he chooses to do what he
> >does
> > > reveals more about him than it does about you and me. It is totally
> >about
> > > him, not us.
> > >
> > > I am saddened by the downward spiral in the civility in ham ranks that
I
> >have
> > > observed over the past several years. But it is nothing more than a
> > > reflection of how people today are less civil than they used to be. As
> >well,
> > > I have learned through my experiences in countless venues there is
> >nothing
> >I
> > > can do to "make" another person be different from what he or she
chooses
> >to
> > > be. If I may, I would suggest that we all be rather careful as to how
we
> > > choose to respond to these rebuffs. These behaviors, as I said, are
more
> > > about them than they are about us. These are the behaviors of people
who
> > > apparently don't know to do anything else. That's why people who are
in
> > > stages of high anger are called "mad."
> > >
> > > Those barbs sent our way are by people who want to "get our goat." I
> >worked
> > > under an incompetent supervisor (who hasn't?) about whom I once
remarked
> >in
> > > anger and frustration to a colleague, "He just gets my goat!" That
> >friend,
> > > wiser than I, simply pointed out the only thing under my control,
"Stop
> > > putting your goat in the front yard."
> > >
> > > I was taught that as human beings our anger is directly proportional
not
> >to
> > > what we actually get, but to what we expect and don't get. The ball is
> >in
> >our
> > > court. Where we lob it depends totally on us. And if we respond in a
> > > mini-war, those who rebuff us have gotten just what they wanted -- to
> >prove
> > > we are less civil than they.
> > >
> > > 73,        Raymond                W5VPU
> > >
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