[Qcwa] (no subject)

Glenn Little [email protected]
Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:32:36 -0500


This frequency was reported to be used by V2, Cuban Intelligence in voice 
with five letter code groups. They were being transmitted by a female 
speaking Spanish about 0345 UTC, 19 July, 2002.

There are many intercepts reported using five letter code groups in both cw 
and foreign languages.

When I was much younger I intercepted a transmission of five letter code 
groups and recorded it. When my Spanish instructor heard it she said that 
it was an American with very bad Spanish pronunciation. When I submitted 
the tape to the FBI, I got a response back that it was friendly to the 
interests of the US.

Today, with the Internet, many of these intercepts are made and reported to 
a reflector daily. There are pictures available of the some of the 
transmitting sites. The conjecture is that these are messages from 
different agencies, such as our CIA, to their field operatives and that 
they are using one time code pads. This makes decoding the message all most 
impossible for anyone but the intended person.

If interested the reflector is 
<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks> .
Also there are reflectors that post intercepts of military communications 
and utility communications.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV



At 11:26 AM 1/9/03 -0500, Tom Repstad wrote:
>I was a radioman in the USCG, 5 letter code groups were used for sending 
>encrypted messages.  I doubt they use that technology any more. But, many 
>code practice programs create random 5 letter groups as a method of 
>copying code, probably that, but surprised you heard no ID.
>
>--Tom
>K1VG
>
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>>Dear Friends:
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>>I happened to be up very early the morning of January 9 taking care of a 
>>sick XYL. When I couldn't get back to sleep, I decided to pass the time 
>>by scanning various bands. To my utter surprise I began to hear almost 
>>perfect CW at about 12-13 WPM on 10.126, so I tried the old "see if you 
>>can copy this in your head" trick. It seemed to make no sense, so I got 
>>out pencil and began to copy by hand.
>>To my utter surprise there was almost perfect code in random five letter 
>>groups. This went on from about 3:20 AM (CST) to 3:30 AM. Then off about 
>>four minutes. Then on again for about ten minutes. Then off. Then back 
>>for a shorter time. There was no ID nor call letters given. Occasionally 
>>there was a series of several "AR" or "BT" or a string of "v." All in 
>>very strong signals, very rigid character, extremely easy to copy, but at 
>>the same time puzzling.
>>Does anyone know who is doing this? Surely no ham would just blatently do 
>>this with no ID? Or would they? Or have I stumbled onto some non-ham 
>>services which also use these frequencies? Was this some clandestine 
>>communique in some strange code? Does anyone on this forum know?
>>73   Raymond          W5VPU
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Glenn Little                         [email protected]   QCWA  LM 28417
Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            [email protected]   AMSAT LM 2178
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