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Today's Topics:

   1. pearl harbor day (Jeffrey D Angus)
   2. Re: pearl harbor day ([email protected])
   3. Re: pearl harbor day (Tommye & Jim Wilhite)
   4. Re: pearl harbor day (Dan Copeland)
   5. Re: pearl harbor day (Norm Gertz)
   6. Re: Chapter 9 - new info on web page and latest bulletin (Gerd & Traudl Schrick)
   7. Re: pearl harbor day (Harvey&Bessie)
   8. Re: pearl harbor day (Croft Taylor)
   9. Re: pearl harbor day (Paul L. Schmidt)
  10. Re: pearl harbor day (Dan Copeland)
  11. Re: pearl harbor day (Joseph Fenn)
  12. Re: pearl harbor day ([email protected])

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 14:14:44 -0800
From: Jeffrey D Angus <[email protected]>
Organization: Grendel's Lair
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

A day that will live in infamy.

Obviously, having been born in 1953, I missed it, but I had a neighbor 
that used to
carry on about it. From listening to him, I doubt if he ever forgave the 
Japanese, and
(unfortunately) blamed everyone for it. Such as his stories of driving 
about Signal
Hill in southern California with his buddies looking for local japanese 
people to beat
up. (Cue theme music for "That's entertainment.")

On the flip side, two brothers that run a local garden supply and repair 
center spent
thier youth in Arizona compliments of the government. Tak won't talk 
about it, but his
older brother George always has these really bizzare stories of what 
they did to amuse
themselves.

Jeff
wa6fwi

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
"A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom"




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Message: 2
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:07:10 EST
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

You can work KH6BB, USS Missouri (BB63) on 28.563, 21.363, 18.163, 14,263 
freq. while 
at its Pearl Harborr dock/museum.
FYI, lee

"A human with a computer can make more mistakes in less time than any other 
device known to mankind.....with only two exceptions....hand guns and Tequila!"

     Sir:

         With an expertise on the subject of ballistics, guns and
the gun-control controversy, I take exception to your incompetent
comment about handguns being responsible for "... more mistakes in 
less time than any other device known to mankind ..."  This 
statement is shear nonsense and bears no relationship to reality.
Gun-related crime and accidents are statistically insignificant and
represent less than one millionth of a percentage point of the total
amount of crime in any given year.  Conclusion:  You are processing
nonsense!

Alvah, K1TMA


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Message: 3
From: "Tommye & Jim Wilhite" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:59:45 -0700
Reply-To: [email protected]



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey D Angus" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day


> A day that will live in infamy.
>
> Obviously, having been born in 1953, I missed it, but I had a neighbor
> that used to
> carry on about it. From listening to him, I doubt if he ever forgave the
> Japanese, and
> (unfortunately) blamed everyone for it. Such as his stories of driving
> about Signal
> Hill in southern California with his buddies looking for local japanese
> people to beat
> up. (Cue theme music for "That's entertainment.")
>
> On the flip side, two brothers that run a local garden supply and repair
> center spent
> thier youth in Arizona compliments of the government. Tak won't talk
> about it, but his
> older brother George always has these really bizzare stories of what
> they did to amuse
> themselves.
>
> Jeff
> wa6fwi
>
> -- 
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>  safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
> Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom"
>

The first line of your message has lost none of the meaning, but most of its
passion, especially in the past 15 years.

What happened on that day, December 7, 1941 is equivalent to a modern drive
by shooting in a small city somewhere in California that killed everyone.
Should that happen, I assure you everyone in California would seek revenge
and not forget for a generation.

My regret is that WW II was the last time this country was united in the
face of devastation.  A good student of modern history would tell us that
Korea, Viet Nam and the Gulf wars were and are being fought for the same
basic principals; however the safety and security this country has enjoyed
since 1947 on its shores has made so many complacent about threats to our
way of life.  Recent history has fallen victim to Political Correctness and
the entire truth may disappear forever.

We should never forget our veterans who defended this country starting on
Pearl Harbor Day and display the pride and sacrifice they gave for us.  With
so few of them remaining, we should understand their feelings over having
lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, and most of all, friends standing
beside them on the battlefield.  We should take a page from the history
books of 1953 and defend their rights to express themselves whenever and
where ever they choose.  Do not chastise them, do not reject them, do not
exclude them for without their sacrifice our country would be nothing in
modern history books.

Our history began much before 1968, do not destroy it and do not try to
rewrite it.  Instead, study it and the values the greatest generation held
dear.  Honor them for those values and strive to be as honorable and
peaceable they desired to be.  We owe them for their sacrifice and
belittling their contribution is not proper nor honorable, even today.

My father who is 90 years old is just beginning to talk about his part in WW
II in Europe.  His brief discussions of the loss of friends and relatives is
particularly moving to me, especially the brief parts of his stories about
the liberation of two Nazi death camps.  We should forgive, but not be blind
to those who would destroy our way of life over convictions be they
economic, religious or personal beliefs.  My father has not, nor would
today, drive a German car, but he does not belittle them.  In uncertain
times, uncertain measures must be expended.  Today we face the same
challenges and history will record how we faced our own people just as how
we face our enemies.  Fortunately this country survived by building values
on our challenges not by belittling some actions.  We still embrace
emigrants who display and practice what this country represents, not those
who are here to tear it apart.  Mistakes are made but we recover from them
unlike the enemies we face.  Honoring our past is the only path to freedom
and our right to embrace those who choose that path.  Build on our
civilization positively, don't let others destroy its foundation.

Honor our veterans, soldiers and leaders to present a determined face to our
enemies..

73   Jim
de W5JO


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:14:02 -0600
To: [email protected]
From: Dan Copeland <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

Well said Jim.

Dan
N0DT



>The first line of your message has lost none of the meaning, but most of its
>passion, especially in the past 15 years.
>
>What happened on that day, December 7, 1941 is equivalent to a modern drive
>by shooting in a small city somewhere in California that killed everyone.
>Should that happen, I assure you everyone in California would seek revenge
>and not forget for a generation.
>
>My regret is that WW II was the last time this country was united in the
>face of devastation.  A good student of modern history would tell us that
>Korea, Viet Nam and the Gulf wars were and are being fought for the same
>basic principals; however the safety and security this country has enjoyed
>since 1947 on its shores has made so many complacent about threats to our
>way of life.  Recent history has fallen victim to Political Correctness and
>the entire truth may disappear forever.
>
>We should never forget our veterans who defended this country starting on
>Pearl Harbor Day and display the pride and sacrifice they gave for us.  With
>so few of them remaining, we should understand their feelings over having
>lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, and most of all, friends standing
>beside them on the battlefield.  We should take a page from the history
>books of 1953 and defend their rights to express themselves whenever and
>where ever they choose.  Do not chastise them, do not reject them, do not
>exclude them for without their sacrifice our country would be nothing in
>modern history books.
>
>Our history began much before 1968, do not destroy it and do not try to
>rewrite it.  Instead, study it and the values the greatest generation held
>dear.  Honor them for those values and strive to be as honorable and
>peaceable they desired to be.  We owe them for their sacrifice and
>belittling their contribution is not proper nor honorable, even today.
>
>My father who is 90 years old is just beginning to talk about his part in WW
>II in Europe.  His brief discussions of the loss of friends and relatives is
>particularly moving to me, especially the brief parts of his stories about
>the liberation of two Nazi death camps.  We should forgive, but not be blind
>to those who would destroy our way of life over convictions be they
>economic, religious or personal beliefs.  My father has not, nor would
>today, drive a German car, but he does not belittle them.  In uncertain
>times, uncertain measures must be expended.  Today we face the same
>challenges and history will record how we faced our own people just as how
>we face our enemies.  Fortunately this country survived by building values
>on our challenges not by belittling some actions.  We still embrace
>emigrants who display and practice what this country represents, not those
>who are here to tear it apart.  Mistakes are made but we recover from them
>unlike the enemies we face.  Honoring our past is the only path to freedom
>and our right to embrace those who choose that path.  Build on our
>civilization positively, don't let others destroy its foundation.
>
>Honor our veterans, soldiers and leaders to present a determined face to our
>enemies..
>
>73   Jim
>de W5JO
>
>_______________________________________________
>QCWA mailing list
>[email protected]
>http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qcwa


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Message: 5
From: "Norm Gertz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:39:51 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]

Jim......after watching the Pearl Harbor documentary last night and then
reading your mail I am rather overwhelmed by memories.
Thank you for your meaningful words.....

73    Norm    K1AA
Colonel USMC (Ret)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tommye & Jim Wilhite" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day


>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeffrey D Angus" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> Subject: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
>
>
> > A day that will live in infamy.
> >
> > Obviously, having been born in 1953, I missed it, but I had a neighbor
> > that used to
> > carry on about it. From listening to him, I doubt if he ever forgave the
> > Japanese, and
> > (unfortunately) blamed everyone for it. Such as his stories of driving
> > about Signal
> > Hill in southern California with his buddies looking for local japanese
> > people to beat
> > up. (Cue theme music for "That's entertainment.")
> >
> > On the flip side, two brothers that run a local garden supply and repair
> > center spent
> > thier youth in Arizona compliments of the government. Tak won't talk
> > about it, but his
> > older brother George always has these really bizzare stories of what
> > they did to amuse
> > themselves.
> >
> > Jeff
> > wa6fwi
> >
> > -- 
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> >  safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
> > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived."
> > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom"
> >
>
> The first line of your message has lost none of the meaning, but most of
its
> passion, especially in the past 15 years.
>
> What happened on that day, December 7, 1941 is equivalent to a modern
drive
> by shooting in a small city somewhere in California that killed everyone.
> Should that happen, I assure you everyone in California would seek revenge
> and not forget for a generation.
>
> My regret is that WW II was the last time this country was united in the
> face of devastation.  A good student of modern history would tell us that
> Korea, Viet Nam and the Gulf wars were and are being fought for the same
> basic principals; however the safety and security this country has enjoyed
> since 1947 on its shores has made so many complacent about threats to our
> way of life.  Recent history has fallen victim to Political Correctness
and
> the entire truth may disappear forever.
>
> We should never forget our veterans who defended this country starting on
> Pearl Harbor Day and display the pride and sacrifice they gave for us.
With
> so few of them remaining, we should understand their feelings over having
> lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, and most of all, friends standing
> beside them on the battlefield.  We should take a page from the history
> books of 1953 and defend their rights to express themselves whenever and
> where ever they choose.  Do not chastise them, do not reject them, do not
> exclude them for without their sacrifice our country would be nothing in
> modern history books.
>
> Our history began much before 1968, do not destroy it and do not try to
> rewrite it.  Instead, study it and the values the greatest generation held
> dear.  Honor them for those values and strive to be as honorable and
> peaceable they desired to be.  We owe them for their sacrifice and
> belittling their contribution is not proper nor honorable, even today.
>
> My father who is 90 years old is just beginning to talk about his part in
WW
> II in Europe.  His brief discussions of the loss of friends and relatives
is
> particularly moving to me, especially the brief parts of his stories about
> the liberation of two Nazi death camps.  We should forgive, but not be
blind
> to those who would destroy our way of life over convictions be they
> economic, religious or personal beliefs.  My father has not, nor would
> today, drive a German car, but he does not belittle them.  In uncertain
> times, uncertain measures must be expended.  Today we face the same
> challenges and history will record how we faced our own people just as how
> we face our enemies.  Fortunately this country survived by building values
> on our challenges not by belittling some actions.  We still embrace
> emigrants who display and practice what this country represents, not those
> who are here to tear it apart.  Mistakes are made but we recover from them
> unlike the enemies we face.  Honoring our past is the only path to freedom
> and our right to embrace those who choose that path.  Build on our
> civilization positively, don't let others destroy its foundation.
>
> Honor our veterans, soldiers and leaders to present a determined face to
our
> enemies..
>
> 73   Jim
> de W5JO
>
> _______________________________________________
> QCWA mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qcwa
>


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Message: 6
From: "Gerd & Traudl Schrick" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] Chapter 9 - new info on web page and latest bulletin
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:06:23 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]

Thanks, Bob, nice work!
73 es happy holidays,
Gerd, WB8IFM, Pres. Ch 9.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob N0UF <[email protected]>
To: QCWA Reflector <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:58 AM
Subject: [Qcwa] Chapter 9 - new info on web page and latest bulletin


> Check out the latest additions to Chapter 9's web page at
> http://www.qcwa.org/chapter009.htm
> and their December/January bulletin at
> http://www.qcwa.org/chapter009-bulletin.doc
>
> There are also several new links on
http://www.qcwa.org/ham-radio-links.htm
etc


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:25:31 -0500
From: Harvey&Bessie <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

I am a veteran of the Pearl Harbor attack. It was a terrible experience. I belong to the
organization "Pearl Harbor Survivors," whose motto is "Remember Pearl Harbor." This is not
a slogan of bitterness, but a reminder to America to stay alert so something like that
can't happen again--but of course it did (9/11). Was it because we didn't stay alert?
As a Christian I have no choice but to forgive, hard as it may be. A true Christian must
emulate our Christ, who when the Roman soldiers were driving the nails through his hands
to affix him to the cross, did not curse them but prayed, "Father forgive them, they no
not what they are doing."
Harvey/W4TG


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Message: 8
From: "Croft Taylor" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:17:20 -0500
Reply-To: [email protected]

Interesting discussions Don.

In accordance with our Amateur Radio Licence requirements,  we are not
permitted to discuss political or Religious matters on the air.  Military
content is considered political. The Canadian internet rules are a little
more hazy.

So it is interesting reading for me.

Kindest 73,

Croft  VE3CT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Copeland" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day


> Well said Jim.
>
> Dan
> N0DT
>
>
>
> >The first line of your message has lost none of the meaning, but most of
its
> >passion, especially in the past 15 years.
> >
> >What happened on that day, December 7, 1941 is equivalent to a modern
drive
> >by shooting in a small city somewhere in California that killed everyone.
> >Should that happen, I assure you everyone in California would seek
revenge
> >and not forget for a generation.
> >
> >My regret is that WW II was the last time this country was united in the
> >face of devastation.  A good student of modern history would tell us that
> >Korea, Viet Nam and the Gulf wars were and are being fought for the same
> >basic principals; however the safety and security this country has
enjoyed
> >since 1947 on its shores has made so many complacent about threats to our
> >way of life.  Recent history has fallen victim to Political Correctness
and
> >the entire truth may disappear forever.
> >
> >We should never forget our veterans who defended this country starting on
> >Pearl Harbor Day and display the pride and sacrifice they gave for us.
With
> >so few of them remaining, we should understand their feelings over having
> >lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, and most of all, friends
standing
> >beside them on the battlefield.  We should take a page from the history
> >books of 1953 and defend their rights to express themselves whenever and
> >where ever they choose.  Do not chastise them, do not reject them, do not
> >exclude them for without their sacrifice our country would be nothing in
> >modern history books.
> >
> >Our history began much before 1968, do not destroy it and do not try to
> >rewrite it.  Instead, study it and the values the greatest generation
held
> >dear.  Honor them for those values and strive to be as honorable and
> >peaceable they desired to be.  We owe them for their sacrifice and
> >belittling their contribution is not proper nor honorable, even today.
> >
> >My father who is 90 years old is just beginning to talk about his part in
WW
> >II in Europe.  His brief discussions of the loss of friends and relatives
is
> >particularly moving to me, especially the brief parts of his stories
about
> >the liberation of two Nazi death camps.  We should forgive, but not be
blind
> >to those who would destroy our way of life over convictions be they
> >economic, religious or personal beliefs.  My father has not, nor would
> >today, drive a German car, but he does not belittle them.  In uncertain
> >times, uncertain measures must be expended.  Today we face the same
> >challenges and history will record how we faced our own people just as
how
> >we face our enemies.  Fortunately this country survived by building
values
> >on our challenges not by belittling some actions.  We still embrace
> >emigrants who display and practice what this country represents, not
those
> >who are here to tear it apart.  Mistakes are made but we recover from
them
> >unlike the enemies we face.  Honoring our past is the only path to
freedom
> >and our right to embrace those who choose that path.  Build on our
> >civilization positively, don't let others destroy its foundation.
> >
> >Honor our veterans, soldiers and leaders to present a determined face to
our
> >enemies..
> >
> >73   Jim
> >de W5JO
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >QCWA mailing list
> >[email protected]
> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qcwa
>
> _______________________________________________
> QCWA mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qcwa
>
>


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:44:49 -0500
From: "Paul L. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

As one who was not out of high school until after Viet Nam was already over,
I'll have to write a 'well said' to that.  Finding that perfect balance between
security and forgiveness is not an easy thing to do, even though we have the
perfect Example to follow.  The current political correctness would have us
overlook the minor detail that - in addition to the passage cited - our Lord
also gave the directions in Luke 22:35-38.  I've still never heard a sermon
on that passage.

73,

Paul / K9PS
QCWA (LM) #26711

Harvey&Bessie wrote:
> I am a veteran of the Pearl Harbor attack. It was a terrible experience. I belong to the
> organization "Pearl Harbor Survivors," whose motto is "Remember Pearl Harbor." This is not
> a slogan of bitterness, but a reminder to America to stay alert so something like that
> can't happen again--but of course it did (9/11). Was it because we didn't stay alert?
> As a Christian I have no choice but to forgive, hard as it may be. A true Christian must
> emulate our Christ, who when the Roman soldiers were driving the nails through his hands
> to affix him to the cross, did not curse them but prayed, "Father forgive them, they no
> not what they are doing."
> Harvey/W4TG


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:31:17 -0600
To: [email protected]
From: Dan Copeland <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

Well Croft, since this is not on the AIR we are free to discuss anything 
that the list administrator will allow.  Since I am the list administrator 
I allow anything that may be discussed at a normal QCWA meeting of which I 
am sure political and religious matters are discussed.

73's
Dan
N0DT



At 09:17 PM 12/7/2003, you wrote:
>Interesting discussions Don.
>
>In accordance with our Amateur Radio Licence requirements,  we are not
>permitted to discuss political or Religious matters on the air.  Military
>content is considered political. The Canadian internet rules are a little
>more hazy.


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:45:04 -1000 (HST)
From: Joseph Fenn <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Reply-To: [email protected]

Thanks Lee.   Am sure the QCWA guys will appreciate that list.
                     Joe/KH6JF


****************************************************
* Ham KH6JF AARS/MARS ABM6JF QCWA WW2 VET WD RADIO *
****************************************************



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Message: 12
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 00:39:27 -0600
Reply-To: [email protected]

Jim, I am not yet a member of QCWA but I am became a hamin 1976. I just
don't have the money just yet. Its kind of hard living on Social Security
Disability and a small VA Pension.

But i was moved by the the comments about December 7th and our Veterans. I
am a Combat Veteran of Viet Nam (1967-68). I lost a lot of good friends
there both American and Vietnamese. I still have thoughts about what we
stood for to those people. Although we did not suceed in winning them
freedom we did show some of them what our country stood for. What we were
willing to do what ever it took to make it the country that it is today.
After coming back to the US and having to put up with the type of treament
we (Veteransa) recieved it was very hard. But I understood that I was living
in another generation with thier values and principles.

All that has changed once again. Sept. 11th. rallied our country again to
our flag. it is again difficault to put up with the members of are Armed
Forces dying every day. But if we stand behind them and with stand all of
the hurt and pain that those men and women are expericing every day maybe so
day another country will be able to live the kind of life that we live in.

God Bless America,

Joseph P. Miller Sr. WB9ZHS



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Croft Taylor" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day


> Interesting discussions Don.
>
> In accordance with our Amateur Radio Licence requirements,  we are not
> permitted to discuss political or Religious matters on the air.  Military
> content is considered political. The Canadian internet rules are a little
> more hazy.
>
> So it is interesting reading for me.
>
> Kindest 73,
>
> Croft  VE3CT
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Copeland" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Qcwa] pearl harbor day
>
>
> > Well said Jim.
> >
> > Dan
> > N0DT
> >
> >
> >
> > >The first line of your message has lost none of the meaning, but most
of
> its
> > >passion, especially in the past 15 years.
> > >
> > >What happened on that day, December 7, 1941 is equivalent to a modern
> drive
> > >by shooting in a small city somewhere in California that killed
everyone.
> > >Should that happen, I assure you everyone in California would seek
> revenge
> > >and not forget for a generation.
> > >
> > >My regret is that WW II was the last time this country was united in
the
> > >face of devastation.  A good student of modern history would tell us
that
> > >Korea, Viet Nam and the Gulf wars were and are being fought for the
same
> > >basic principals; however the safety and security this country has
> enjoyed
> > >since 1947 on its shores has made so many complacent about threats to
our
> > >way of life.  Recent history has fallen victim to Political Correctness
> and
> > >the entire truth may disappear forever.
> > >
> > >We should never forget our veterans who defended this country starting
on
> > >Pearl Harbor Day and display the pride and sacrifice they gave for us.
> With
> > >so few of them remaining, we should understand their feelings over
having
> > >lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, and most of all, friends
> standing
> > >beside them on the battlefield.  We should take a page from the history
> > >books of 1953 and defend their rights to express themselves whenever
and
> > >where ever they choose.  Do not chastise them, do not reject them, do
not
> > >exclude them for without their sacrifice our country would be nothing
in
> > >modern history books.
> > >
> > >Our history began much before 1968, do not destroy it and do not try to
> > >rewrite it.  Instead, study it and the values the greatest generation
> held
> > >dear.  Honor them for those values and strive to be as honorable and
> > >peaceable they desired to be.  We owe them for their sacrifice and
> > >belittling their contribution is not proper nor honorable, even today.
> > >
> > >My father who is 90 years old is just beginning to talk about his part
in
> WW
> > >II in Europe.  His brief discussions of the loss of friends and
relatives
> is
> > >particularly moving to me, especially the brief parts of his stories
> about
> > >the liberation of two Nazi death camps.  We should forgive, but not be
> blind
> > >to those who would destroy our way of life over convictions be they
> > >economic, religious or personal beliefs.  My father has not, nor would
> > >today, drive a German car, but he does not belittle them.  In uncertain
> > >times, uncertain measures must be expended.  Today we face the same
> > >challenges and history will record how we faced our own people just as
> how
> > >we face our enemies.  Fortunately this country survived by building
> values
> > >on our challenges not by belittling some actions.  We still embrace
> > >emigrants who display and practice what this country represents, not
> those
> > >who are here to tear it apart.  Mistakes are made but we recover from
> them
> > >unlike the enemies we face.  Honoring our past is the only path to
> freedom
> > >and our right to embrace those who choose that path.  Build on our
> > >civilization positively, don't let others destroy its foundation.
> > >
> > >Honor our veterans, soldiers and leaders to present a determined face
to
> our
> > >enemies..
> > >
> > >73   Jim
> > >de W5JO
> > >
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