[PVRCNC] FW: ARRLDX SSB W4BBT SOAB HP
Eric Wagner
kb1ri at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 6 17:18:37 EST 2023
I think that delaying an ID on SSB is one of the ways to manage stations use to manage the pileup. If you have 10 callers picking out a full call can be really tough. Why add more callers? So, I kind of get it. I’d prefer they ID every 3rd Q and that would be very tolerable. At the same time busting those pileups can be tough at least for me with just wire antennas. I’ll drop a marker on the band map and come back to it after working one or two others. I found that to be pretty effective this weekend. It’s quick to hit ctrl-up/dwn arrow a couple times to get back to the marker.
The thing that annoyed me more were the callers on some of the rare mults where everyone tries to be last and call multiple times without listening. It slows everything down since the DX often gets covered up and often has to repeat the call they want to work when everyone finally stops. I wonder if the DX stations ever just don’t log some of those worst offenders and they end up with a NIL? The same drop a marker on the band map works as above.
Eric - NR4O
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 6, 2023, at 3:28 PM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> It's always good for someone to stir the pot occasionally. It helps us to
> reassess our individual conceptions and misconceptions, and to hear others'
> opinions.
>
> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
>
>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:09 PM Don Gladwell <dongladwell1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Didn’t know I would create so much discussion, but thanks for all your
>> comments.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Don-W4BBT
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the hottest part of my runs, I was trying to ID every 3rd or 4th QSO.
>>> That time frame was probably no more than 2 minutes. I know from my S&P
>>> efforts, I usually give a runner 5 or 6 QSOs to ID before I either move
>> on
>>> or throw out "your call?". That's a lot of time!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to SOLP (maybe SB 10M) from the beach in CQWPX SSB in a
>> few
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Henry - K4TMC
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:34 AM James Jordan <k4qpl2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Two comments:
>>>> Yes, not sending ID regularly is bad. We insist on it here.
>>>> HOWEVER, have you actually measured the time between ID’s? I regularly
>>>> get “call?” as short as ten or fifteen seconds after the last ID. If
>> you’re
>>>> S&P fifteen seconds sounds like forever after you’ve tuned or clicked
>> on a
>>>> runner.
>>>> 73,
>>>> Jim K4QPL VP5M
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the ideas. Yes, I drink lots of coffee and water, except
>>>> when
>>>>> things are going fast. I do use a single DVR message for the basic CQ
>>>>> contest call. But, since the K3 has 3 additional message blocks, I'll
>>>> try
>>>>> Rowland's idea and populate the other message buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Henry - K4TMC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 10:56 AM Nathan Moreschi <n4ydu at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I crack up at the robo-voice stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree totally with Rowland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:52:23 AM EST, Rowland Archer <
>>>>>> rarcher at tourstar.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nate has way more experience with this than I do -- but my approach is
>>>> to
>>>>>> record the common phrases as voice macros in N1MM+,
>>>>>> turn on enter sends exchange, and then when I hit enter to log the Q,
>>>>>> N1MM+ sends "Thanks, K4XD contest." I don't think this sounds robotic
>>>>>> since I pre-recorded the entire phrase, it's not being pieced together
>>>> like
>>>>>> the robo-voicing of call signs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Rowland K4XD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 10:45 AM Henry Pollock - K4TMC <
>>>> kilo4tmc at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is annoying from the S&Per's standpoint...been there done that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, from the runners standpoint (my recent NCQP effort), after
>>>> 2-plus
>>>>>> hours of 100+ rate, I found my voice fading, so I started going for
>>>> several
>>>>>> QSOs without IDing. Yes, there were those that then asked "your
>> call".
>>>> I
>>>>>> would then give my call on the next QRZ. Luckily, the rate slowed down
>>>> and
>>>>>> I was able to ID after every QSO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nate, do you have any hints on how to keep your voice during long
>> runs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Henry - K4TMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:24 AM Nathan Moreschi via PVRCNC <
>>>>>> pvrcnc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it's highly annoying. Most guys tend to sign at least after
>> ever 3
>>>>>>> Qs or so but after every one sure is nice.
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 09:28:45 PM EST, Tom Lewis via PVRCNC <
>>>>>>> pvrcnc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>> That is a pet peeve of mine. They need to give their call often.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 08:59:24 PM EST, Don Gladwell <
>>>>>>> dongladwell1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: webform at b4h.net <webform at b4h.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2023 8:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: 3830 at contesting.com; dongladwell1 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Subject: ARRLDX SSB W4BBT SOAB HP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ARRL DX Contest, SSB - 2023
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Call: W4BBT
>>>>>>> Operator(s): W4BBT
>>>>>>> Station: W4BBT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Class: SOAB HP
>>>>>>> QTH: NC
>>>>>>> Operating Time (hrs): 18.5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summary:
>>>>>>> Band QSOs Mults
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> 160:
>>>>>>> 80: 7 5
>>>>>>> 40: 37 21
>>>>>>> 20: 80 38
>>>>>>> 15: 76 40
>>>>>>> 10: 137 54
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> Total: 337 158 Total Score = 159,738
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Club: Potomac Valley Radio Club
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I decided to do all S&P unassisted for this contest with lots of
>>>> breaks.
>>>>>>> 10m was wide open most of the time I was on. 15m and 20m were also
>>>> good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I am going to get on my soapbox again. When doing S&P
>> unassisted,
>>>> it
>>>>>>> drives me crazy how many operators finish their call with QRZ and no
>>>> call
>>>>>>> sign.
>>>>>>> When trying to find new Qs, I either have to waste time until he
>>>> decides
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> give his call, or just move on or shout "What's your Call" if I can
>> get
>>>>>>> through the pileup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did contact several new countries for me in Kenya-5Z4VJ and
>>>>>> Israel-4X6TT
>>>>>>> during this contest. I was able to contact VP5M on 20m and 15m but
>>>> never
>>>>>>> found them on any of the other bands. (Remember I am just spinning
>> the
>>>>>>> knob)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Don-W4BBT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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