[PVRCNC] YAHOO USERS - ATTN

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Oh, and by the way, there has been a huge reduction in the incoming daily
spam count to my Gmail ID. There is also a reduction in the number of
non-subscriber spam hits to the Antennaware list which I admin.

That would seem to indicate "success" of some kind and maybe indicates that
other big frequently spoofed ISP's might do the same. Interesting to see
what happens.

73, Guy.


On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger at bellsouth.net>wrote:

> This isn't about the list-servers.  Yahoo has turned on a flag to the
> already-widely-implemented DMARC protocol, p=reject. It says if this yahoo
> mail id didn't actually originate on a yahoo ISP server, then bounce it.
> Any ISP that has implemented DMARC (all the majors and a lot of minors)
> will then bounce it. In my case, AT&T and Gmail will bounce it, depending.
>
> People will use proxies not associated with their "home" ISP, because they
> don't want to change their email in a thousand places, but hate the ISP
> hosting the old email address. So they do all their work and saving under
> the new ISP, while using the old email as the from, reply-to, etc.  I do
> that with Gmail as home and an old domain now owned by AT&T as email
> address, whose hosting sucks IMHO.
>
> If Gmail ever turns on p=reject (telling the rest of the world to bounce
> non-gmail proxies from Gmail), then my scheme is hosed and I'll have to
> move my surfaced email to Gmail.
>
> I tried breaking up my email to two ID's and splitting the business, but
> it's just too much trouble remembering to set the email client to different
> "accounts" for different replies.  I keep forgetting to do it.  Only thing
> that works for me is to have two separate different login ID's to Gmail
> which does work, but won't do until I'm forced to.
>
> 73, Guy
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger at bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> Did you use the yahoo as a proxy mail id and send it out from a non-yahoo
>> original ISP?
>>
>> Guy.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Pete Soper <pete at soper.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Howie,
>>>    As an FYI I created a Yahoo mail account this morning and used to to
>>> post a message to a GNU Mailman 2.1.12 list I maintain (same infrastructure
>>> as the PVRC list). It went through OK. I don't know if this means Yahoo
>>> undid their change or that Mailman works where Google lists don't.
>>>
>>> -Pete
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/13/2014 06:31 AM, Howard Hoyt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately this does not just pertain to yahoo users, what happens is
>>>> yahoo id posts to mail list and blows a lot of other subscribers off.
>>>> I am triggered to write this as a yahoo id just subscribed.
>>>>
>>>> PLEASE anyone on yahoo search on 'yahoo dmarc' any hits related to
>>>> breaking
>>>> mailing list.
>>>> if you are using yahoo webmail, no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Guy, if at all possible, could you mention at a meeting as I know you
>>>> understand this convoluted situation.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Howie n4af
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