[PVRCNC] Re: [PVRC] Comments on the PVRC Circle Project

Fri Jun 8 16:58:11 EDT 2007

 That is part of the problem of operating from here (FM05). Seems the guys
up north don't point down this way very often so if there is no E skip its
pretty boring down here.

Ron
N4XD

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Jim WW4M
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:37 PM
To: PVRC at mailman.qth.net; pvrcnc
Subject: Re: [PVRCNC] Re: [PVRC] Comments on the PVRC Circle Project

Having operated in VHF and UHF contests from FM18, FM19 and FM05 and
currently residing in FM05, I support the proposal to adopt a circle that
favors the the folks up north for VHF and UHF contests. There's a lot more
action in PA/MD/DC than there is in NC, and this makes a lot of sense.

(My first SSB contact was on 2m, not HF, from FM18. It always seemed hard to
work folks in NC from the MDC area (with the exception being the time I
worked AA4NC from a ski lift in southern PA). I can remember pointing our
antennas south to try to drum up some contacts to the south but getting so
responses compared with pointing notheast.
)

 73, Jim WW4M

>
>
> On 6/8/07, Jim Jordan, K4QPL <k4qpl at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> > Jack,
> >
> > I second the comments in your email--both parts.
> >
> > I also believe that the members in North Carolina who are 
> > potentially affected by a U/VHF circle move to include W3SO do not 
> > oppose this. While we do have members who participate in the vhf 
> > contests, to my knowledge we do not have anyone down here who has 
> > invested in vhf capability to anything like the same degree as Marty
has.
> >
> > This is also being copied to the NC reflector. I would ask Henry, 
> > W2DZO as chairman of the western NC chapter to look at it from their 
> > standpoint since a separate vhf circle would affect them the most.  
> > If anyone else in NC has any objections to your well reasoned 
> > request, let them speak now or forever hold their peace!
> >
> > Absent something unexpected, I think we would support a decision 
> > along these lines by the officers and trustees.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Jim, K4QPL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <K4VV at aol.com>
> > To: <PVRC at mailman.qth.net>
> > Cc: < K4VV at aol.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 2:32 PM
> > Subject: [PVRC] Comments on the PVRC Circle Project
> >
> >
> > Comments on the PVRC Circle Project
> >
> > My hat is off to Jim, WX3B, and the leadership team for engaging the 
> > lightening rod initiative to revisit the Circle.  Our members have 
> > put a lot of energy into the discussion and decision process.
> > Congratulations all!
> >
> > I am writing to recommend an alternative Circle for V/UHF.
> >
> > In 1997, our President Rich, KE3Q, tackled the Circle issue.
> > PVRC accomplished a significant expansion of our terrain (above 
> > water) where potential new members and future contesters lived.  A 
> > serious enhancement!  My friend Marty, W3YOZ, and I were present in 
> > the meeting when the proposal was approved which added coverage in 
> > North Carolina, West Virginia and Pennsylvania.  Rich presented the 
> > new Circle using a very large map.  Marty was delighted to see that 
> > his Wopsononock Mountain property, near Altoona, PA, was just inside 
> > the revised Circle.
> >
> > Encouraged by new Circle, Marty began a building program at his PA 
> > site, licensed as W3SO.  He built an 8'x16' cabin and put up two 
> > towers and a small group of us began to be active i n the three ARRL 
> > V/UHF Contests.  Over time, he added another building (16'x24'), 
> > which connected in an "L" with the smaller one.
> > Two years later the third, larger building was added for workshop, 
> > repeater, emergency communications, storage, meals, etc.
> > The tower and antenna farms and radio gear continued to improve, 
> > with many of the W3SO teams purchasing equipment, and helped with 
> > transceivers, amplifiers, towers, antennas, and station integration 
> > and maintenance, QSL'ing and operating.
> >
> > In 2004, I led an examination of the Circle, with active support and 
> > collaboration from N3OC and WX3B.  Our objectives were to include a 
> > dynamic team of Contesters in the Winston-Salem area and to reach 
> > further SSE to include N4AF into the Circle "drawn with a Crayon."  
> > Precise tools for accuracy were becoming available, but were very 
> > awkward to use, and such precision was not being employed by the 
> > community.  It was not in our interest then to attempt to push the 
> > community towards a more precise methodology.  W3SO remained in the 
> > Circle "drawn with a Crayon."
> >
> > W3SO has become the reliable contact in FN00 while ranking in the 
> > top 3 in the nation in the limited Multi category.  The W3SO 
> > activity has been a substantial contributor to PVRC's #1 ranking 
> > over the last four years.
> >
> > For these reasons, I would encourage the PVRC membership and 
> > officers to adopt the new Circle that is currently proposed for HF 
> > Contests and a modified V/UHF Circle that is tilted to the North to 
> > include the W3SO while excluding some North Carolina members on the 
> > southern lobe.
> >
> > Marty has been a PVRC member for 47 years, and he has finally 
> > reached his objective of making a serious contribution in PVRC 
> > competition.  More than a dozen others have joined him in this 
> > adventure.  We need ten more years!
> >
> > I am sure that our leadership is examining the various suggestions 
> > for our PVRC circle.
> >
> > My vote is yes for the current proposal and yes  for a W3SO "tilt" 
> > in the V/UHF circle!
> >
> > Look for W3SO during the contest this weekend.  See you on ~144.213.
> >
> > The W3SO Station summary with more detail is posted on QRZ dot com.
> >
> > Jack Hammett, K4VV
> >
> >
>
>
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