[PVRCNC] alternate meeting location for NC East

Wed Mar 9 07:13:22 EST 2005

Sorry, Gary. I really didn't intend my response to be personal. And I also
apologize for not sufficiently recognizing the special needs of some
members.

As to smoking, there's nothing I'd like better than for NC to join those
states as well.

And I plead guilty to relying on appearances without knowing what's inside.
Is there any place that we can know what we're getting except at the
advertised vegetarian/organic restaurants?

As to the home thing, my point was basically in support of the idea. I just
felt that in fairnesss to all the members it shouldn't be our primary
option. We shouldn't make anyone feel obligated or feel like they were
letting the club down if they didn't have  the facilities to be on a roster
or whatever. We should have a regular "neutral" or commercial site, but if
any members volunteer to host a meeting that would be great. I'm definitely
not shooting down that idea. I recall "special" meetings for summer and
holidays at homes like K4MA, K2AV, N4CW and W0UCE, probably others, which
were all outstanding.I'm sure there are many of us who will offer in the
future.

73,

Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <w2cs at bellsouth.net>
To: "PVRC/NC" <pvrcnc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:22 PM
Subject: RE: [PVRCNC] alternate meeting location for NC East

> Jim Jordan K4QPL said:

>
> "Well, I see inflation has gotten Gary up to 3 cents. I don't like smoke
> either, but until NC joins Ireland in outlawing smoking in pubs, if we
look
> for a total ban we are going to eliminate a lot of choices."
>
> You leave out New York, Oregon and California; perhaps there are other
> "modern" states.
>
> "Ditto on healthy food. You CAN eat healthy at Golden Corral with salad
and
> vegetable choices. And on the whole, the veggies are better than found at
> the usual restaurant. The problem for me is not enough will power to just
> say no when it's only once a month. On balance a couple beers and a
> hamburger, even with fries, is probably less than three plates of fried
> chicken, ham, shrimp, and beef finished off with carrot cake and
brownies."
>
> I must disagree.  There's nothing healthy at GC.  Salads are full of sugar
> and very bad oils for someone like me with prostate cancer.  The veggies
are
> loaded with butter, which likewise is very bad for someone with prostate
> cancer.  I submit you have no idea what constitutes "healthy," if you
think
> GC can be.  As for weak will power, I plead very guilty.
>
> "The idea of meeting in homes is great in concept. It would be fun to
visit
> other shacks etc. However, I doubt everyone can reasonably host and park a
> full turnout of 25+ or adequately plan for widely varying numbers. I think
> that should be a volunteer option, but we need to find some traditional
> spots."
>
> Thanks for shooting down the idea so thoroughly. All your reasons are, of
> course, valid.  I'm sure no one would be willing to host such a meeting.
>
> 73 all,
>
> Gary W2CS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <w2cs at bellsouth.net>
> To: "PVRC/NC" <pvrcnc at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [PVRCNC] alternate meeting location for NC East
>
>
> > I guess it's time for me to add my 3 cents.
> >
> > Important to me are:
> >
> > A.  An area without cigarette smoke (allergies)
> > B.  Either no food at all or some food option that is healthy
> > C.  A place I can get to in a reasonable drive from my home near Jordan
> > Lake.  To me reasonable is on the order of 20-30 minutes.  Rush hour
> traffic
> > is out.
> >
> > The GC is usually OK on A and C, C if I take US 64 instead of I-40.
> > However GC fails miserably with item B and for that reason you have not
> seen
> > me there for probably over a year.  I do enjoy the meetings/BS, but not
at
> > the expense of my health (A and B).
> >
> > Like others a beer would be nice to have in that setting. But, not at
the
> > expense of inhaling someone else's cigarette smoke :-(
> >
> > Has anyone tossed up the idea of rotating the meeting among our homes?
> > Haven't thought that out; it just popped into my head.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pvrcnc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:pvrcnc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Guy Olinger, K2AV
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:36 PM
> > To: "PVRC NC"
> > Subject: Re: [PVRCNC] alternate meeting location for NC East
> >
> >
> > I agree, the last two are just nice. 1-6 will become an issue though,
> > if we can't set those up. The leadership has had to deal with each one
> > of them over the life of the chapter.
> >
> > 6-9 is the most common recently as you say, the largest and the
> > smallest over time are 4 - 20. A few rare times over 20.
> >
> > The manager at Golden Corral is upset about item number 6 now and
> > wants to seat us elsewhere in the restaurant. We had to painfully
> > negotiate our way on item 2). He WANTED a 25 dollar fixed fee to use
> > the room regardless of number of attendees, which is what we DID the
> > first time we met there. I think he is going back to that requirement.
> > We'll see.
> >
> > Let me say it very clearly, though the prior posts WERE mostly about
> > having a single meeting elsewhere, I suspect we might have to move.
> > And find a place with a little friendlier management, who can deal
> > with 1) through 6).
> >
> > --Guy.
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
> > For reference...
> >
> > 1) A room where we aren't expected to vacate as soon as we're done
> > eating.
> >
> > 2) A room without a fixed room fee.
> >
> > 3) Management is OK with separate tickets off the regular menu (or
> > individual check-ins ala Golden Corral) with a standard tip or "room
> > fee" (percentage or lump sum) that is added to each check in the
> > group, regardless of numbers.
> >
> > 4) Moderate to inexpensive prices.
> >
> > 5) Individuals can arrive and be served at scattered times without
> > prior notification of numbers.
> >
> > 6) Small or large numbers are not a problem with the management.
> > Historically 4 to 20, with rare instances of over 20. Patrons are
> > willing to crowd tables on heavy nights with no complaints.
> >
> > 7) Would be nice if we could occasionally set up a screen for a
> > PowerPoint presentation.
> >
> > 8) Would be nice if beer/wine was served. It's also a money maker and
> > the restaurant is friendlier with larger checks.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <NX9T at aol.com>
> > To: ""Guy Olinger, K2AV"" <olinger at bellsouth.net>;
> > <n4tl2 at attglobal.net>; ""PVRC NC"" <pvrcnc at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PVRCNC] alternate meeting location for NC East
> >
> >
> > > I'm not sure that we we would necessarily have to meet all 8 items
> > > to have a successful meeting location but that's another issue.  My
> > > only point was/is that it might be nice to have a different location
> > > to meet at from time to time...to pick up those who desire a
> > > different location and those who don't want to travel so far south,
> > > etc...  I was not suggesting a permanent location change but
> > > something more like a quarterly or semi-annual change of
> > > pace/location meeting.
> > >
> > > Maybe we do average from 4 to 20 attendees, but I am as much a
> > > regular attender as anyone and from my recollection, the last year
> > > or more has seen more like 6 to 9 on average with no need for a
> > > power point at the PCRCNC-East meetings.
> > >
> > > We need to find a way to rejuvenate a desire to attend our meetings.
> > > I welcome any other ideas.  This was merely one.
> > >
> >
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