[Premium-Rx] Premium-Rx Digest, Vol 203, Issue 1

Ulysses Galletti py2uaj at gmail.com
Thu May 9 06:38:43 EDT 2024


Hello Enrique

I inform you that my best results are obtained using the Ameco PT 2 and the
Antenna Coupler coupler: AT-1000 Coupler, software (firmware) installed is
v.4xxx to activate the modulation modes. I had a friend who was an engineer
at R & S in Brazil, I'm going to see if he can help us with firmare v.4.
73
Ulysses Galletti

Em qua., 8 de mai. de 2024 às 17:07, Enrique Fernandez García <
enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es> escreveu:

> Hello Ulysses,
>
> Following your advice I have already got an EK896 receiver, really is a
> god radio. My only complaint is that does not have AM sync option and I
> cannot listen that weak signals on AM mode, unfortunately the software
> (firmware) installed is the v 3. x x x x and it needs the v.4xxx in order
> to get the modulation modes on Am (DBS and more)
>
> Please have a look at page 132 in the following link:
>
> https://www.ab4oj.com/dl/rs/ek895_896_um.pdf
>
> I have already purchased an AMECO PT-2 and the Kenwood headphones, still
> waiting for the Grove SP-200 just in case it pop out on ebay. I think that
> the antenna coupler will not be neccesary.
>
> I have already mailed to R&S and asked where could I get or if there is
> aplace where I can download the V4 version but it answer has been that they
> have prohibited to collaborate with individual persons only with
> enterprises, governments, universities....
>
> IAs you see in the photo attached I have just purchased an EKD511
> receiver, is top . The sound is quite good and punchy and the sync mode is
> one of the best. I totally recommend this radio for my is one of the best
> ever made. I t is a bit older but it works superb; they were made in DDR
> germany in 1987, for the army and secret services mainly for interception
> purposes.
> I know a german ham guy that makes the necessary modificationss in the PS
> and full alignment, just in case you are interested I will tell you, the
> radio itself weights 25 Kgs !
>
> Just a question, Do you know where can I get the v.4 firmare?
>
> Kind Regards.
>
>
>
> En lunes, 3 de julio de 2023, 11:32:01 CEST, Ulysses Galletti via
> Premium-Rx <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> escribió:
>
>
> Dear friends
> My experience in the practice of dexism, today I am 83 years old, led me to
> use the following equipment to obtain the best results:
> Receiver: Rohde & Schwarz EK 896
> Antenna coupler: 1coupler AT-1000 Global
> Preamp: Ameco PT2
> Sound Box: Gove SP 200
> Kenwood HS-5 Headphones
> 73
> Ulysses Galletti
> Brazil
>
> Em seg., 3 de jul. de 2023 às 05:25, <premium-rx-request at mailman.qth.net>
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> >    1. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (sm0aom at telia.com)
> >    2. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (Arthur Delibert)
> >    3. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (Joseph Pistritto)
> >    4. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (SCOTT MCDONALD)
> >    5. Rohde Schwarz EK070 for sale (Kai Garrels)
> >    6. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (Joe Jesson)
> >    7. Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver (Enrique Fernandez Garc?a)
> >    8. Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver (Enrique Fernandez Garc?a)
> >    9. Re: Help choosing HF receiver (Bruce Gentry)
> >  10. Re: Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver (sm0aom at telia.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 22:55:41 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: "sm0aom at telia.com" <sm0aom at telia.com>
> > To: Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>,
> >        premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID:
> >        <2101921665.192806.1688244941735.JavaMail.defaultUser at defaultHost
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Decades ago, I was involved in evaluation of HFreceivers for diplomatic
> > and SIGINT purposes.
> >
> > Many receivers were tested, but the RA3701and later the 3791 won out due
> > to price/performance.
> > The EK890 (predecessor to the EK895) was good, but too expensive, and the
> > WJ8711 came quite far down the list,
> > mostly due to audio distorsion and "buggy" software. Also, the
> synthesiser
> > did not live up to expectations.
> >
> > Today, when the spectrum occupancy by strong BC stations is much smaller,
> > the demands on the synthesiser become a lot less,
> > so the extremely good signal handling properties of the E1800 and similar
> > receivers are not needed in the same extent.
> >
> > Even quite mundane receivers tend to give good performance today, as the
> > ambient noise floor is much higher now which will
> > mask spuriouses and intermodulation artifacts quite well.
> >
> > 73/Karl-Arne
> > SM0AOM
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Ursprungligt meddelande----
> > Fr?n : premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Datum : 2023-07-01 - 22:34 ()
> > Till : premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > ?mne : [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> >
> > Dear group,
> >
> > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> Winradio
> > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it was
> > quite noisy.
> >
> > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me in
> > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> since
> > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> >
> > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> and
> > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery and
> > audio in general is quite important.
> >
> > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > these receivers (in no special order):
> >
> >  -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the RA
> > 3701.
> >  -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic IF
> > design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does not
> > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > - WJ 8711A
> > - Cubic CDR-3280
> >
> >  Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart from
> > the above?
> >
> >  Thanks in advance
> >  Regards
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 11:41:01 +0000
> > From: Arthur Delibert <radio75a3 at msn.com>
> > To: "premium-rx at mailman.qth.net" <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>, Enrique
> >        Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> CY8PR20MB5714CAA7E4EBFA7FD36B391FE428A at CY8PR20MB5714.namprd20.prod.outlook.com
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> >
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> >
> > Although not on your list, I would suggest the Ten-Tec RX340.  I have
> been
> > using one for several years and find it extremely capable.  (I had also
> > tried the AR-7030, NRD-545, etc., but when I run them side-by-side with
> the
> > 340, the 340 is the winner.)  The SSB audio quality is excellent,
> > bandwidths are extremely flexible, and ergonomics are thoughtfully
> > designed.  It's surprisingly light-weight and has a smaller footprint on
> > the desk than most other professional receivers.
> >
> > There are two drawbacks.  First, the close-in dynamic range is poor.  In
> > practice, this is rarely a problem, especially in the tropical bands.  It
> > could be a real problem in the ham bands, where strong signals can pop up
> > anywhere, any time.  Second, the synchronous AM doesn't hold lock as well
> > as some consumer receivers; this can be remedied with the Sherwood
> > Engineering SE-3 synchronous detector.
> >
> > I suggest you try to find John Wilson's review of the 340 in the October
> > 2001 Short Wave Magazine.  He gives a much better feel for the radio than
> > does Larry Magne's review in Passport.  For example, Magne criticizes the
> > 340 because not all bandwidths are available in all modes; that could be
> a
> > real limitation, but Wilson explains that in practice, for the synch
> > detector the bandwidth must be at least 4 kHz (not a problem is you're
> > using the Sherwood SE-3, in which case  you can use any BW), and for ISB
> > the bandwidth is fixed at 3.2 kHz.  Otherwise, all BWs are available in
> all
> > modes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Art Delibert, KB3FJO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> > premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Enrique Fernandez
> Garc?a
> > via Premium-Rx <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:34 PM
> > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> >
> > Dear group,
> >
> > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> Winradio
> > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it was
> > quite noisy.
> >
> > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me in
> > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> since
> > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> >
> > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> and
> > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery and
> > audio in general is quite important.
> >
> > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > these receivers (in no special order):
> >
> >  -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the RA
> > 3701.
> >  -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic IF
> > design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does not
> > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > - WJ 8711A
> > - Cubic CDR-3280
> >
> >  Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart from
> > the above?
> >
> >  Thanks in advance
> >  Regards
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 07:03:57 -0700
> > From: Joseph Pistritto <jcp at pistritto.org>
> > To: Arthur Delibert <radio75a3 at msn.com>
> > Cc: "premium-rx at mailman.qth.net" <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > i have one of these (Ten Tec RX340) that i acquired from another
> collector
> > who passed on.  Ive used it a lot to receive longwave signals and its the
> > most capable receiver ive personally used for this. (example: the
> > Differential GPS longwave stations) as well as a lot of shortwave utility
> > monitoring.
> > I really like the way the receiver looks in the rack i have it in
> (there's
> > also an oak cabinet available which i have too) and its extremely easy to
> > use.
> > I have an SE-3 (that i got with the receiver) but i havent actually used
> it
> > with the receiver.
> >
> > So second the motion on the RX-340.  I do see them for sale from time to
> > time on Ebay.
> >  -jcp-
> >  N3CKF
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:41?AM Arthur Delibert via Premium-Rx <
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Although not on your list, I would suggest the Ten-Tec RX340.  I have
> > been
> > > using one for several years and find it extremely capable.  (I had also
> > > tried the AR-7030, NRD-545, etc., but when I run them side-by-side with
> > the
> > > 340, the 340 is the winner.)  The SSB audio quality is excellent,
> > > bandwidths are extremely flexible, and ergonomics are thoughtfully
> > > designed.  It's surprisingly light-weight and has a smaller footprint
> on
> > > the desk than most other professional receivers.
> > >
> > > There are two drawbacks.  First, the close-in dynamic range is poor.
> In
> > > practice, this is rarely a problem, especially in the tropical bands.
> It
> > > could be a real problem in the ham bands, where strong signals can pop
> up
> > > anywhere, any time.  Second, the synchronous AM doesn't hold lock as
> well
> > > as some consumer receivers; this can be remedied with the Sherwood
> > > Engineering SE-3 synchronous detector.
> > >
> > > I suggest you try to find John Wilson's review of the 340 in the
> October
> > > 2001 Short Wave Magazine.  He gives a much better feel for the radio
> than
> > > does Larry Magne's review in Passport.  For example, Magne criticizes
> the
> > > 340 because not all bandwidths are available in all modes; that could
> be
> > a
> > > real limitation, but Wilson explains that in practice, for the synch
> > > detector the bandwidth must be at least 4 kHz (not a problem is you're
> > > using the Sherwood SE-3, in which case  you can use any BW), and for
> ISB
> > > the bandwidth is fixed at 3.2 kHz.  Otherwise, all BWs are available in
> > all
> > > modes.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Art Delibert, KB3FJO
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> > > premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Enrique Fernandez
> > Garc?a
> > > via Premium-Rx <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:34 PM
> > > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > >
> > > Dear group,
> > >
> > > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> > Winradio
> > > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it
> was
> > > quite noisy.
> > >
> > > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me
> in
> > > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> > since
> > > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> > >
> > > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> > and
> > > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery
> and
> > > audio in general is quite important.
> > >
> > > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > > these receivers (in no special order):
> > >
> > >  -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the
> RA
> > > 3701.
> > >  -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic
> IF
> > > design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does
> not
> > > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > > - WJ 8711A
> > > - Cubic CDR-3280
> > >
> > >  Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart
> from
> > > the above?
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance
> > >  Regards
> > > ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 10:01:21 -0500
> > From: SCOTT MCDONALD <ka9p at aol.com>
> > To: Joseph Pistritto <jcp at pistritto.org>
> > Cc: Premium-Rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID: <AD0E560C-B696-4382-842B-3E7BD93C27FE at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Enrique,
> >
> > I?m also a big fan of the 340, particularly because I find the audio less
> > annoying than the 8711 or the HF-1000. Definitely worth a look.
> >
> > I can scan the John Wilson review article Art mentioned if you need it,
> > just contact me direct.
> >
> > There?s also a nice HF to TT head to head comparison from Listening In
> > June 2001 by George Zeller.
> >
> > Happy hunting.
> >
> > Scott ka9p
> >
> > Make something good happen!
> >
> > > On Jul 2, 2023, at 9:04 AM, Joseph Pistritto via Premium-Rx <
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?i have one of these (Ten Tec RX340) that i acquired from another
> > collector
> > > who passed on.  Ive used it a lot to receive longwave signals and its
> the
> > > most capable receiver ive personally used for this. (example: the
> > > Differential GPS longwave stations) as well as a lot of shortwave
> utility
> > > monitoring.
> > > I really like the way the receiver looks in the rack i have it in
> > (there's
> > > also an oak cabinet available which i have too) and its extremely easy
> to
> > > use.
> > > I have an SE-3 (that i got with the receiver) but i havent actually
> used
> > it
> > > with the receiver.
> > >
> > > So second the motion on the RX-340.  I do see them for sale from time
> to
> > > time on Ebay.
> > >  -jcp-
> > >  N3CKF
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 4:41?AM Arthur Delibert via Premium-Rx <
> > >> premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Although not on your list, I would suggest the Ten-Tec RX340.  I have
> > been
> > >> using one for several years and find it extremely capable.  (I had
> also
> > >> tried the AR-7030, NRD-545, etc., but when I run them side-by-side
> with
> > the
> > >> 340, the 340 is the winner.)  The SSB audio quality is excellent,
> > >> bandwidths are extremely flexible, and ergonomics are thoughtfully
> > >> designed.  It's surprisingly light-weight and has a smaller footprint
> on
> > >> the desk than most other professional receivers.
> > >>
> > >> There are two drawbacks.  First, the close-in dynamic range is poor.
> In
> > >> practice, this is rarely a problem, especially in the tropical bands.
> > It
> > >> could be a real problem in the ham bands, where strong signals can pop
> > up
> > >> anywhere, any time.  Second, the synchronous AM doesn't hold lock as
> > well
> > >> as some consumer receivers; this can be remedied with the Sherwood
> > >> Engineering SE-3 synchronous detector.
> > >>
> > >> I suggest you try to find John Wilson's review of the 340 in the
> October
> > >> 2001 Short Wave Magazine.  He gives a much better feel for the radio
> > than
> > >> does Larry Magne's review in Passport.  For example, Magne criticizes
> > the
> > >> 340 because not all bandwidths are available in all modes; that could
> > be a
> > >> real limitation, but Wilson explains that in practice, for the synch
> > >> detector the bandwidth must be at least 4 kHz (not a problem is you're
> > >> using the Sherwood SE-3, in which case  you can use any BW), and for
> ISB
> > >> the bandwidth is fixed at 3.2 kHz.  Otherwise, all BWs are available
> in
> > all
> > >> modes.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Art Delibert, KB3FJO
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> > >> premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Enrique Fernandez
> > Garc?a
> > >> via Premium-Rx <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:34 PM
> > >> To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > >> Subject: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > >>
> > >> Dear group,
> > >>
> > >> After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> > Winradio
> > >> SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > >> receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it
> > was
> > >> quite noisy.
> > >>
> > >> I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me
> > in
> > >> the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> > since
> > >> I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> > >>
> > >> I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> > and
> > >> SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery
> and
> > >> audio in general is quite important.
> > >>
> > >> After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in
> mind
> > >> these receivers (in no special order):
> > >>
> > >> -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the
> RA
> > >> 3701.
> > >> -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic
> IF
> > >> design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does
> not
> > >> have the additional independent IF BW options
> > >> - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > >> - WJ 8711A
> > >> - Cubic CDR-3280
> > >>
> > >> Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart
> from
> > >> the above?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance
> > >> Regards
> > >> ______________________________________________________________
> > >> Premium-RX Mailing List Information
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:05:54 +0200
> > From: Kai Garrels <kai.garrels at me.com>
> > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Rohde Schwarz EK070 for sale
> > Message-ID: <1FEAE37E-4B0A-4A43-8924-E952ED775ECB at me.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am offering my EK070 for sale, details are here:
> >
> >
> https://www.fa-kleinanzeigen.de/biete/empfanger-scanner_1/rohde-und-schwarz-ek070_i43563
> > <
> >
> https://www.fa-kleinanzeigen.de/biete/empfanger-scanner_1/rohde-und-schwarz-ek070_i43563
> > >
> >
> > Recevier location is Mannheim/Germany.
> >
> > 73,
> > kai dm2kg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 16:36:16 -0400
> > From: Joe Jesson <jejesson4 at gmail.com>
> > To: Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>
> > Cc: Premium Premium receiver <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID:
> >        <CAN=
> > BUM-069V5Bp81kow8E50RpweOcgDUnOkfhtboeUuX8RezRA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I also like AM DXing and my favorite classic is the Scott Philharmonic
> > crome-plated radio.  The Wj-8718 had terrible audio until I realized I
> had
> > to match the radio's audio output of 600 ohm to a 3.2 ohm speaker. All
> was
> > good after that.
> >
> > If you want to try BCB dxing on the latest SDR receiver (Airspy HF +
> > Discovery) with an active regenerative loop, I think you will be
> surprised!
> > Adding a klipsch speaker was like icing on the cake :-)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 1, 2023, 4:34 PM Enrique Fernandez Garc?a via Premium-Rx <
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear group,
> > >
> > > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> > Winradio
> > > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it
> was
> > > quite noisy.
> > >
> > > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me
> in
> > > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> > since
> > > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> > >
> > > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> > and
> > > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery
> and
> > > audio in general is quite important.
> > >
> > > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > > these receivers (in no special order):
> > >
> > >  -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the
> RA
> > > 3701.
> > >  -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic
> IF
> > > design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does
> not
> > > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > > - WJ 8711A
> > > - Cubic CDR-3280
> > >
> > >  Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart
> from
> > > the above?
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance
> > >  Regards
> > > ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 20:57:01 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>
> > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID: <1896678621.2154992.1688331421614 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> >
> > First of all a big thank you to everyone who took the time in answer,
> >
> >  I have some thoughts in the receivers that have been suggested:
> >
> >  AEG Telefunken 1800/3 : It is not a suitable receiver for shortwave
> > listeners, lack of filters and more, I have been reading some review in
> the
> > fenu radio website:
> >
> >  https://www.fenu-radio.ch/AEG_Telefunken-E1800-3-en.htm
> >
> >  Telefunken E1501: has highpass filters inside, on MW is desensitised,
> > bandwidth filters are poorly selected for voice understandability ,
> needs a
> > QRM free location, not mine regrettably.
> >
> >  https://www.fenu-radio.ch/Telefunken_E1501-en.htm
> >
> >  WJ 8711a: Audio distortion
> >
> >  WJ8716A: I have read some reviews and it seems a very good radio, I will
> > keep investigating
> >
> >  EKD500: needs laarge antennas, it would not work correctly with my
> > Wellbrook. I read that the perfomance is equal to an JRC 545.:
> >
> >  https://www.fenu-radio.ch/RFT_EKD-500-en.htm
> >
> >  Ten Tec RX340: At very weak signals Telefunken 1501 has a much better
> > audio recovery and has clear sound. Add a SE-3 would be expensive:
> >
> >  https://www.fenu-radio.ch/Ten-Tec_RX340-en.htm
> > I would bet for the RA3701 or the 3711 ( I have not found much
> information
> > about this 3711), compared with the AEG 1800/3 it seems that plays in the
> > same league. I will keep an eye on the 3701.
> >
> >  https://www.fenu-radio.ch/RACAL_RA3712-en.htm
> >
> >  I discard the EK895 the are like hen's teeth in finding one.
> > Regards
> >
> >    ----- Mensaje reenviado ----- De: Arthur Delibert <radio75a3 at msn.com
> >Para:
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>; Enrique
> > Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>Enviado: domingo, 2 de julio
> > de 2023, 13:41:04 CESTAsunto: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> >  #yiv7991857453 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Although not on your
> > list, I would suggest the Ten-Tec RX340.? I have been using one for
> several
> > years and find it extremely capable.? (I had also tried the AR-7030,
> > NRD-545, etc., but when I run them side-by-side with the 340, the 340 is
> > the winner.)? The SSB audio quality is excellent, bandwidths are
> extremely
> > flexible, and ergonomics are thoughtfully designed.? It's surprisingly
> > light-weight and has a smaller footprint on the desk than most other
> > professional receivers.
> > There are two drawbacks.? First, the close-in dynamic range is poor.? In
> > practice, this is rarely a problem, especially in the tropical bands.? It
> > could be a real problem in the ham bands, where strong signals can pop up
> > anywhere, any time.? Second, the synchronous AM doesn't hold lock as well
> > as some consumer receivers; this can be remedied with the Sherwood
> > Engineering SE-3 synchronous detector.
> > I suggest you try to find John Wilson's review of the 340 in the October
> > 2001 Short Wave Magazine.? He gives a much better feel for the radio than
> > does Larry Magne's review in Passport.? For example, Magne criticizes the
> > 340 because not all bandwidths are available in all modes; that could be
> a
> > real limitation, but Wilson explains that in practice, for the synch
> > detector the bandwidth must be at least 4 kHz (not a problem is you're
> > using the Sherwood SE-3, in which case? you can use any BW), and for ISB
> > the bandwidth is fixed at 3.2 kHz.? Otherwise, all BWs are available in
> all
> > modes.
> > Regards,Art Delibert, KB3FJO
> >
> > From: premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> > premium-rx-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Enrique Fernandez
> Garc?a
> > via Premium-Rx <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:34 PM
> > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver?Dear group,
> >
> > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> Winradio
> > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it was
> > quite noisy.
> >
> > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me in
> > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> since
> > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> >
> > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> and
> > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery and
> > audio in general is quite important.
> >
> > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > these receivers (in no special order):
> >
> > ?-Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the RA
> > 3701.
> > ?-Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic IF
> > design? and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does not
> > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > - WJ 8711A
> > - Cubic CDR-3280
> >
> > ?Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart from
> > the above?
> >
> > ?Thanks in advance
> > ?Regards
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 21:17:28 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>
> > To: premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Premium-Rx] Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID: <1129006651.2170517.1688332648584 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> >
> > Hello Joe,
> >
> >  Yes, an EK895 owner told me that the perfomance was very similar,almost
> > equal, to the Airspy HF+ discovery not discerneable difference.
> >
> >  I have already got a SDR receiver, a Winradio G33DDC Excalibur Pro, I am
> > not very happy with it. Every now and then overloads, it has fitted a
> > preselector and attenuator but I am not totally convinced about the
> > perfomance.
> > For my taste is too noisy, comparing weak signals my Lowe HF-150 is equal
> > if not better in most cases. As antenna I use a Wellbrook ALA 100M.
> > Maybe I should add add an external USB card in order to improve the
> > Winradio.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >    ----- Mensaje reenviado ----- De: Joe Jesson <jejesson4 at gmail.com
> >Para:
> > Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>CC: Premium Premium
> > receiver <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>Enviado: domingo, 2 de julio de
> > 2023, 22:36:29 CESTAsunto: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> >  I also like AM DXing and my favorite classic is the Scott Philharmonic
> > crome-plated radio.? The Wj-8718 had terrible audio until I realized I
> had
> > to match the radio's audio output of 600 ohm to a 3.2 ohm speaker. All
> was
> > good after that.
> > If you want to try BCB dxing on the latest SDR receiver (Airspy HF +
> > Discovery) with an active regenerative loop, I think you will be
> surprised!
> > Adding a klipsch speaker was like icing on the cake :-)
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 1, 2023, 4:34 PM Enrique Fernandez Garc?a via Premium-Rx <
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dear group,
> >
> > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> Winradio
> > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it was
> > quite noisy.
> >
> > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me in
> > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> since
> > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> >
> > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> and
> > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery and
> > audio in general is quite important.
> >
> > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > these receivers (in no special order):
> >
> > ?-Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the RA
> > 3701.
> > ?-Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic IF
> > design? and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does not
> > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > - WJ 8711A
> > - Cubic CDR-3280
> >
> > ?Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart from
> > the above?
> >
> > ?Thanks in advance
> > ?Regards
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Premium-RX Mailing List Information
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> > Help Contact eMail:? 73 at 73.am
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 00:01:42 -0400
> > From: Bruce Gentry <ka2ivy at verizon.net>
> > To: "premium-rx at mailman.qth.net" <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID: <6b1eb4a6-1c79-8993-e3fd-5931022c66db at verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > A Scott Philharmonic is quite good, but would likely be very pricey. A
> > more practical and excellent sounding rig for BCB listening and SWL is a
> > Hammarlund SP-400. If you want a great sounding consumer console
> > receiver, the Philco 37-690 properly restored is awesome. I had both the
> > Scott and the Philco, the Philco was hands down the better sounding one
> > for oldies stations, it ROCKS!. The Scott has four 6L6s in push pull
> > parallel, I always thought it sounded sort of harsh. the Philco and
> > Hammarlund have variable coupling in the IF transformers so you can
> > adjust the selectivity for exactly what suits the occasion. There is no
> > doubt the Scott is the best for style. Be ready to replace all of the
> > paper and electrolytic condensers in all of them, and test the resistors
> > because they usually drift upward in resistance. Once you get any of
> > them, power them with no more than 115 volts, or better yet, 110. They
> > are all 70-75 years old, and power transformers are not as robust now
> > and getting them rewound is pricey. For serious voice broadcast DX, a
> > Collins R-390- NOT the 390A- sounds good if you take the audio from the
> > "diode load" terminals on back. The built in audio is strictly
> > communications quality. The 390A uses mechanical filters, they don't
> > sound that good for music. With the changes in programming, there are so
> > few music stations on AM today. Overall sound pleasure is very personal,
> > if possible listen to and try a prospective choice. The right choice is
> > the one that YOU enjoy, for sound and style.
> >
> >  ?? Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/2/23 16:36, Joe Jesson via Premium-Rx wrote:
> > > I also like AM DXing and my favorite classic is the Scott Philharmonic
> > > crome-plated radio.  The Wj-8718 had terrible audio until I realized I
> > had
> > > to match the radio's audio output of 600 ohm to a 3.2 ohm speaker. All
> > was
> > > good after that.
> > >
> > > If you want to try BCB dxing on the latest SDR receiver (Airspy HF +
> > > Discovery) with an active regenerative loop, I think you will be
> > surprised!
> > > Adding a klipsch speaker was like icing on the cake :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 1, 2023, 4:34 PM Enrique Fernandez Garc?a via Premium-Rx <
> > > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear group,
> > >>
> > >> After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> > Winradio
> > >> SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > >> receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it
> > was
> > >> quite noisy.
> > >>
> > >> I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me
> > in
> > >> the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> > since
> > >> I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> > >>
> > >> I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> > and
> > >> SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery
> and
> > >> audio in general is quite important.
> > >>
> > >> After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in
> mind
> > >> these receivers (in no special order):
> > >>
> > >>  -Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the
> > RA
> > >> 3701.
> > >>  -Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic
> > IF
> > >> design  and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does
> not
> > >> have the additional independent IF BW options
> > >> - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > >> - WJ 8711A
> > >> - Cubic CDR-3280
> > >>
> > >>  Any help and thoughts are very wellcomed. Any other receiver apart
> > from
> > >> the above?
> > >>
> > >>  Thanks in advance
> > >>  Regards
> > >> ______________________________________________________________
> > >> Premium-RX Mailing List Information
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> > >> Help Contact eMail:  73 at 73.am
> > >> Web Home Page:  http://www.premium-rx.org/
> > >>
> > > ______________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 10:25:22 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: "sm0aom at telia.com" <sm0aom at telia.com>
> > To: enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es, premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver
> > Message-ID:
> >        <447850441.176436.1688372722320.JavaMail.defaultUser at defaultHost>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > The perceived receiver performance is influenced primarily by factors
> that
> > the user
> > has very little influence over; the noise/RF environment and the adjacent
> > channel properties of other transmitters.
> >
> > It is very seldom that receiver characteristics or performance themselves
> > will have a governing influence.
> >
> > I speak from some 40 years professional experience of specifying,
> > assenbling and operating large HF systems for both civilian and
> > defence purposes, using equipment ranging from "cheap" to "extremely
> > expensive".
> >
> > SDR:s today have an edge in almost all aspects, and their only
> shortcoming
> > is when extremely strong (>120 dB over the noise floor)
> > unwanted signals are encountered, such as when operating with co-located
> > transmitters.
> >
> > The Winradio Excalibur surpasses almost all analogue receivers, but
> > receivers such as the E1800 have a slight advantage when
> > such signals are encountered, as they "degrade gracefully" when the
> > adjacent channel signals increase.
> >
> > One recent system was assembled using second-hand SRT CR91 receivers
> which
> > replaced ageing (45-50 years of H24 operation)
> > SRT CR300 receivers. The main difference became that the control system
> > was simplified and the spare parts situation became more manageable.
> > Performance-wise there were very small, if any, differences,
> >
> > The reader should be quite suspicious about claims of "wonder receivers",
> > as the main characteristics of a MF/HF receiving system
> > are determined outside the receiver itself by the RF environment.
> > Abilities to handle strong adjacent channel or out-of-band signals
> > will have the most influence performance-wise, with IF and audio passband
> > shape next.
> > When listening to weak AM signals, it pays to use demodulation methods
> > that make the most out of the received signal energy, such as synchronous
> > demodulation and "exalted carrier reception".
> >
> > 73/Karl-Arne
> > SM0AOM
> >
> >
> > ----Ursprungligt meddelande----
> > Fr?n : premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > Datum : 2023-07-02 - 23:17 ()
> > Till : premium-rx at mailman.qth.net
> > ?mne : [Premium-Rx] Fw:  Help choosing HF receiver
> >
> >
> > Hello Joe,
> >
> >  Yes, an EK895 owner told me that the perfomance was very similar,almost
> > equal, to the Airspy HF+ discovery not discerneable difference.
> >
> >  I have already got a SDR receiver, a Winradio G33DDC Excalibur Pro, I am
> > not very happy with it. Every now and then overloads, it has fitted a
> > preselector and attenuator but I am not totally convinced about the
> > perfomance.
> > For my taste is too noisy, comparing weak signals my Lowe HF-150 is equal
> > if not better in most cases. As antenna I use a Wellbrook ALA 100M.
> > Maybe I should add add an external USB card in order to improve the
> > Winradio.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >    ----- Mensaje reenviado ----- De: Joe Jesson <jejesson4 at gmail.com
> >Para:
> > Enrique Fernandez Garc?a <enriqueeeeee2001 at yahoo.es>CC: Premium Premium
> > receiver <premium-rx at mailman.qth.net>Enviado: domingo, 2 de julio de
> > 2023, 22:36:29 CESTAsunto: Re: [Premium-Rx] Help choosing HF receiver
> >  I also like AM DXing and my favorite classic is the Scott Philharmonic
> > crome-plated radio.? The Wj-8718 had terrible audio until I realized I
> had
> > to match the radio's audio output of 600 ohm to a 3.2 ohm speaker. All
> was
> > good after that.
> > If you want to try BCB dxing on the latest SDR receiver (Airspy HF +
> > Discovery) with an active regenerative loop, I think you will be
> surprised!
> > Adding a klipsch speaker was like icing on the cake :-)
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 1, 2023, 4:34 PM Enrique Fernandez Garc?a via Premium-Rx <
> > premium-rx at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dear group,
> >
> > After having some conventional receivers, Drakes, Lowe, AOR and a
> Winradio
> > SDR I have decided to make a step further and geting a professional
> > receiver, although I had already got a Racal 1772 and for my taste it was
> > quite noisy.
> >
> > I would be very pleased if the members of this forum could indicate me in
> > the right direction and throw some light in which receiver to choose
> since
> > I am a bit confused in this aspect.
> >
> > I am mainly interested in voice signals, not digital modes, mainly BCB
> and
> > SWL, digging tropical band stations out of the mud so audio recovery and
> > audio in general is quite important.
> >
> > After surfing the web and readind on eham and in forums, I have in mind
> > these receivers (in no special order):
> >
> > ?-Racal 3791, but it is said that the audio is not as pleasant as the RA
> > 3701.
> > ?-Racal 3701, on the contrary of the DSP version RA3791 is an analogic IF
> > design? and as indicated before its sound is ways better but it does not
> > have the additional independent IF BW options
> > - R&S EK895, with the quasi-continuous tuning fitted.
> > - WJ 8711A
> > - Cubic CDR-3280
> >
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