[Premium-Rx] Eddystone 1650-3 , with text
GandalfG8 at aol.com
GandalfG8 at aol.com
Sat Mar 23 20:05:03 EDT 2013
Hi Peter
As Dan commented earlier, and he's definitely one of the experts when it
comes to repairing corroded CPU boards, there's a good possibility of more
damage than might seem obvious to start with, and thorough cleaning as he
suggested followed by point to point checks, with repairs as necessary until
the PCB at least is all as it should be, is really your only option if you
want to avoid even more problems in the future.
It's a while since I worked on a 1650 CPU board, and that was a 1650/9
which is different to the earlier models, and I can't recall now which ICs were
socketed and which soldered directly to the PCB, but if there's any
indications of damage beneath ICs or sockets, and really even if there isn't, you
need to remove them to check and make good.
The only problem with that is that it's also quite easy to do even more
damage just by removing them if you haven't got the right tools, but if you
don't you could just be storing up more trouble for later...catch 22
unfortunately.
The 1650 service manuals do provide all the circuit information you need
but some of their alignment instructions leave quite a lot to be desired,
and I've found that some models of a given version might, in some respects at
least, be better matched by other manual versions than their own, which
can be quite frustrating at times.
As far as I'm aware, the actual schematic of the CPU board should be the
same, or very close at least, for all versions prior to the 1650/9, at
which point the processor switched from a 6802 to a 6809 and with larger Eproms,
so what you've got should match your 1650/7 manual.
I don't know if it will help but I've posted a single file to Rapidshare
containg the manuals for the original 1650, the 1650/6, quite an oddball that
one, the 1650/7 that you've already got, and the 1650/9, just in case
there's anything in there that might prove useful.....
_http://rapidshare.com/files/2655834510/Eddystone_1650_Manuals.zip_
(http://rapidshare.com/files/2655834510/Eddystone_1650_Manuals.zip)
Good Luck
Nigel
GM8PZR
In a message dated 23/03/2013 21:09:13 GMT Standard Time, zpz at gmx.de
writes:
Hello all,
I try to repair an Eddystone 1650-3. It has the SSB-display.
The trouble was first that it first showed nothing usefull and did not
react to the power button. The owner then replaced the leaked battery. The
acid had derogated the cpu-board, even some of the ceramic capacitors lost
parts of their housing. The solder points were extremely hard to solder
again... Measuring conductance of the circuit pathes requires to push the tips
very hard into the old solder, to get any response.
Now I replaced the bad ceramics and the tantals on the cpu-board and all
of the Philips 035 series electrolytics of the front assembly. As expected,
the most were bad - the capacity losses were between 30 and 80 percent.
Now, the receiver does still almost *nothing* - there is no reaction of
the power button and no sound; only some LEDs of the SSB-display are showing
activity.
I measured the voltage on the cpu-board behind the 7805, it is 4.88V. The
next idea is to check if there is any activity at the cpu and then the to
have a look at the little regulator on the display board, but I am a bit
discouraged, because it is difficult to access all the parts. I do have the sm
of the 1650-7 but it seems to be not very helpfull.
If anybody has further ideas, that would be great.
Best regards,
Peter
ps: I am away for some days, so my answer can be delayed.
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