[Premium-Rx] Off-site sales of the Unknown

[S. Schappert]

Jan,

Yes, there is a possibility that this is in fact legitimate.  What is most troubling is the fact that eBay has rules that should be considered prior to making an offer of this nature.  When we look the other way, and neglect the form and function of the process, it becomes a nebulous process.  A process of uncertainty and sketchiness.  EBay forbids its' members to act in this way.  When a seller offers "the same" item for a price less than the final bidding price or offers it for less than the going bid at the current time, it invalidates the item up for bid (in theory).

As a member of eBay, I feel it is necessary to practice bidding (winning and losing) within the boundaries set forth by that organization.  I wish no trouble on anyone, nor do I wish it upon myself.  I apologize to "Katya" if in fact your item is real, but as a purported seller on eBay, why do you feel comfortable to break the rules for your own gain ?  My gain would cheat the buyer who was legitimately bidding on the receiver on eBay today.

Good, bad or indifferent, if we all played by the rules with respect to Purpose and Reason, this thread would not exist.

Thanks for allowing me to put this to rest for me.

-Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: dma at Islandnet.com
Sent: Feb 24, 2004 11:23 AM
To: "S. Schappert" <scottsch at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: [Premium-Rx] Off-site sales of the Unknown

Hi Scott ...

There are Premium-Rx members in many (most?) large cities. I wonder if someone offering such a radio might be asked if it would be OK for one of our local members to phone them and/or drop by to verify the radio's condition? I suspect this would put off most fraud artists. OTOH if the person is legit, there should be no problem - then you'd need to decide if you wanted to solicit a nearby volunteer to check it out.

Jan Skirrow (on another email address right now) - usually jan at skirrow.org)


> Hello to the list members !
> 
> I have been watching the emails in regard to what appears to be a new paradigm in misrepresentation on eBay.  In the last month, I have received emails for virtually every item I have bid on in the last sixty days for off-site sale.  Many I have sent to eBay, but there does not seem to be anything that can be done.  Many come from the same sender, based on many similarities.
> 
> The emails "seem" to originate in England.  The English composition is terrible, and grammer is equivalent.  The author is either non-English speaking or uneducated or both.  Currently, "Katya", who works in a "police station" in London is trying to sell me an exact WJ-8615-2 receiver up on eBay at this moment.   Maybe "Katya" is reading this post ?  Would that not be ironic ??
> 
> I have to laugh at these emails, they are so incredibly ignorant and mis-guided it is comical.  What is not comical is the fact that one must second guess, and be hyper-aware at all transactions and worry about those who hide behind a monitor and VPN.  The thought of the possibility of having ones eBay membership compromised is a gating event that has, at least for myself, changed this whole process and its' value, to me, has diminished.
> 
> eBay is not so important when the risk is weighted against the benefits.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> Scott Schappert
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Scott Schappert