[PPRAANet] QRZ, FCC and licenses

[Scott Janzen]

Ladies and Gents,

I think I might have missed the first part of this conversation, so this
might not be helpful. The lookup I use is
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp where you can
dig on call sign, name, or FRN.

My original (Tech+) call from the mid-90s is recorded, as is my current
license. Fun to play with. :)

Scotty
AD0XM

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:44 AM Dennis N0ABC <N0ABC at msn.com> wrote:

> Glenn et al,
>
> Although computers were around and used for very many of the tasks by
> the FCC back in the early '70s and before that even, it was the advent
> of the FCC Registration Number (FRN), in the late '90s and 2000 time
> frame, that allowed them to turn it into a realistic relational
> database. As they were converting records and attributing new, original
> FRNs, they did not worry about old, expired and cancelled licenses, and
> they figured on addressing any issues from any of those previous
> licenses on an as-needed basis.
>
> As a for instance, when I look up my original call sign from 1995,
> KB0SXC, I see that it does not contain an FRN. My vanity call, N0ABC,
> was originally granted 01/07/1998. Sometime after that, probably closer
> to 2000, during probably many batch processes, I was assigned my FRN.
> When I decided to get a GMRS license, I simply used the same FRN. Now,
> if one searches for FCC licenses (of any type or flavor) via FRN, all
> under that FRN will show up in the results.
>
> Yes, applying FRNs after the fact like that has caused quite a few
> anomalies in the ULS. There were insufficient checks to see if an entity
> already had an FRN before applying another new one. Since the early days
> of FRNs, they have certainly improved their checking! This was the case
> for PPRAA - the club has (at least) two FRNs. This is partly how/why we
> were trying to get the In Memoriam call sign of Doc, W0MCT, while
> keeping our other vanity call sign. They "caught" us trying to get a
> second vanity call and stopped it quickly. (I was also hoping that "In
> Memoriam" call signs would be considered different than standard vanity
> call signs.) (Now, QCWA Chapter 58 has W0MCT.)
>
> There's a little history, from my albeit limited perspective.
>
> 73
>
> Dennis
> N0ABC
>
> On 11/17/2020 10:16 AM, Glenn wrote:
> > Sorry all! I thought I hit a gold mine but it turns out to be fools
> > gold! I thought it went
> >
> > way back but it only went back to 2000 or 2001. Evidently they didn't
> > take the time to enter
> >
> > everyone prior to those years. All I can say is I tried.
> >
> >   Evidently it would have taken a herculean task to enter all before
> > those dates, they'd probably be still
> >
> > typing as I type now. I guess around the 2000 mark computers made
> > their debut and a electronic form
> >
> > of filing/ saving was born.
> >
> >   Glenn n3ulw
> >
>
> --
> 73
>
> Dennis Major, N0ABC
> Laurel ARC VEC, Regional Coordinator #10 / Ø
> (CO, IA, KS, MN, MO, ND, NE, SD)
> Pikes Peak Radio Amateur Association VE Team Leader
>
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