[PPRAANet] FCC vs Baofeng radios

[Dan Martin]

It's one of two things:
1) A bureaucrat is misreading the rules, or
2) FCC is changing the rules by interpretation.

Either way, I'm concerned.

- Dan KD0SMP

On 9/29/2018 11:32 AM, Larry Wilkes wrote:
> I agree with Dan; if I'm not mistaken, this has always been the case - 
> certified transmitter or not.  Looks like the main issue is with the 
> companies who're importing and selling these uncertified radios being 
> in violation of the regulations that prohibit them from doing so.
>
> On Friday, September 28, 2018, 7:15:46 PM MDT, Dan Martin 
> <mardan1492 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Looks like us amateurs can use them, but the onus for complying with the
> emission rules is on us.
>
> “Even if a two-way VHF/UHF radio operates solely within the amateur
> frequencies, the operator is required to have an amateur license to
> operate the device and must otherwise comply with all applicable rules.”
>
> That would be consistent with amateur radio rules. I could build a radio
> and use it without FCC certification as long as I comply with FCC
> emission rules. That is why I got my amateur radio license, after all.
>
> - Dan KD0SMP
>
> On 9/28/2018 10:56 AM, Steve KT0DX wrote:
> > Glenn, thanks for this information and glad I do not have to do any
> > worrying as I do not own any of these radios.  The advertising is
> > still out there as this just came out a few days ago but sure they
> > will get the word.  I really think the FCC should be a little more
> > clearer on what is ok and not ok for ham use.  From what I came away
> > with from reading all three articles was that if I owned your radio I
> > would have to think twice if I was to decide to sell it since yours
> > can be modified to be used in other service frequencies.
> >
> > Steve (KT0DX)
> >
> >
> > On 9/28/2018 16:40, Glenn wrote:
> >>     To All:
> >>
> >>   Some interesting discussions popped up regarding Baofeng/ Wouxan
> >> radios and FCC pulling the plug on them as "NON" compliant radios!
> >>
> >> Heres 3 videos explaining whats going on and what you should do. They
> >> do meet part 90 cert.'s but barely.
> >>
> >> The first one is on a QRZ website: (Also his take is don't throw it
> >> away, don't hide it nor advertise it, you'll probably not get
> >> arrested "BUT" only use it as you're licensed ergo 2 meters and 70
> >> centimeters).
> >>
> >> 
> http://qrznow.com/fcc-warns-on-noncompliant-vhfuhf-two-way-radios-baofeng/ 
> <http://qrznow.com/fcc-warns-on-noncompliant-vhfuhf-two-way-radios-baofeng/%20>
> >>
> >>
> >> Second vid.: Also on the QRZ site says OMG don't use them and they're
> >> building the scaffolding for hanging as I type! Ironically both
> >> vid.'s dated in Sept.
> >>
> >> 
> http://qrznow.com/fcc-enforcement-advisory-targets-noncompliant-imported-vhfuhf-transceivers/ 
> <http://qrznow.com/fcc-enforcement-advisory-targets-noncompliant-imported-vhfuhf-transceivers/%20>
> >>
> >>
> >> Third vid. again on QRZ site:
> >>
> >> 
> http://qrznow.com/fcc-enforcement-advisory-targets-noncompliant-imported-vhfuhf-transceivers/ 
> <http://qrznow.com/fcc-enforcement-advisory-targets-noncompliant-imported-vhfuhf-transceivers/%20>
> >>
> >>
> >> It too says don't use 'em in the text but the vid. more or less says
> >> have a ball with 'em!!
> >>
> >>
> >> If it's "SO" big and bad an issue why are they still being imported/
> >> advertised and sold on numerous websites? My take? If you have one,
> >> use it wisely and stay within
> >>
> >> your licensed band restrictions. I, personally, own a Wouxan KG-UV9D
> >> and it's a fine inexpensive radio, yes it's capable of transmitting
> >> out of normal Ham bands.
> >>
> >> Do I transmit out of band? Empathically "NO"! Also note Wouxan was
> >> hardly mentioned at all. Seems they picked mainly on Baofeng for
> >> whatever reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >> n3ulw
> >>
> >>
> >>
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