[PPRAANet] [GMC] [ppdxg] [MHDXA] This was the last straw!

Steve **KT0DX** kt0dx at comcast.net
Sun Apr 3 14:12:57 EDT 2011


Rick has finally gone over to the dark side.........

On 4/3/2011 16:50, Rick WØRIC wrote:
> Almost everyone fell for this April fools email. Well, not everyone.
> Not sure if the email from Steve N2IC, Wayne's (N0UN) "SUPER FRIEND 
> EMAIL", or the long ass email from Jeff Ryan, K0RM (Our Section 
> Manager) wins the REPLY AWARD!
> The contest judges are still scoring the results.
> A huge THANKS to everyone who participated!!!
> Life is short......We all need to laugh.....and enjoy our wonderful 
> hobby!!!!!
> 73
> Rick
> W0RIC/AE
> P.S. SEE YOU ALL ON (or near) THE BAND EDGES!!!!!   (Just Kidding!)
> ///
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Robb Urie <rurie at mywdo.com 
> <mailto:rurie at mywdo.com>> wrote:
>
>     All,
>
>     Everyone needs to check the date of the original post....
>
>     Robb NØRU
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Frank Skinner
>     Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:09 AM
>     To: bill croghan ; Steve **KT0DX**
>     Cc: Pikes Peak DX Group ; PPRAA Reflector ; Mile High DX Assn ;
>     Grand Mesa
>     Contest Club
>     Subject: Re: [ppdxg] [PPRAANet] [MHDXA] This was the last straw!
>
>     Well said WB0KSW.
>
>     Kudo's to the OOs.
>
>     Frank
>     K0JQZ
>     Fountain CO
>
>
>
>     ________________________________
>     From: bill croghan <billcroghan at earthlink.net
>     <mailto:billcroghan at earthlink.net>>
>     To: Steve **KT0DX** <kt0dx at comcast.net <mailto:kt0dx at comcast.net>>
>     Cc: Pikes Peak DX Group <ppdxg at mailman.qth.net
>     <mailto:ppdxg at mailman.qth.net>>; Mile High DX Assn
>     <mhdxa at mhdxa.com <mailto:mhdxa at mhdxa.com>>; PPRAA Reflector
>     <ppraanet at mailman.qth.net <mailto:ppraanet at mailman.qth.net>>;
>     Grand Mesa
>     Contest Club <gmc at mailman.qth.net <mailto:gmc at mailman.qth.net>>
>     Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 8:39:46 PM
>     Subject: Re: [PPRAANet] [ppdxg] [MHDXA] This was the last straw!
>
>     Rick,
>         Apparently you missed a little something about bandwidth on your
>     General exam.  A SSB signal on 14.225, even USB will have significant
>     energy below 14.225 where  your General class license does not
>     permit you
>     to transmit.  A CW signal on 14.025 will have significant signal below
>     14.025 at any keying speed you could possible be using, the faster
>     speed
>     the more bandwidth.  Your general class license does not permit you to
>     transmit energy below 14.025 MHz.  Don't knock the OO, they are
>     doing a
>     very important job of self policing our hobby.  Would you rather have
>     had an FCC inspector send you an official notice of violation followed
>     by a notice of apparent liability if you had answered the violation
>     notice with no understanding of the bandwidth issues your signal
>     produces?  The FCC monitor engineers are very familiar with the
>     bandwidth occupied by a radio signal be it SSB or CW.  If you operate
>     directly on the band edge that you are authorized to operate you
>     WILL BE
>     IN VIOLATION.  The OO might have saved you a very stiff fine, loss of
>     your operating privileges and in extreme cases, confiscation of your
>     equipment if you continued to operate in violation of the rules.
>      I have
>     received two OO notices in my 38+ years of operation and have
>     appreciated them calling my attention to the problems.  I also
>     received
>     one notice of violation from the FCC on my first day as a novice
>     copying
>     me sending at 5 WPM, "Please QRS, This is my first day"  They did not
>     bother copying the very nice ham who sent back at about 3 WPM,
>      "go up 5
>     Kc, you are out of novice band".  That probably saved me a stiff fine
>     and taught me to pay attention to what I am doing.  My rule now is to
>     stay at least 3 KHZ from the band edge with a SSB signal and 2 KHz
>     from
>     the edge on CW.  I also got my Extra so I have less edges to worry
>     about.
>
>         Bless the OO and thank them for keeping our hobby clean.
>     Bill
>
>     Bill  Croghan,
>     WB0KSW
>     Chief Engineer, Lotus Broadcasting,
>     Las Vegas, NV.
>
>     On 4/1/2011 5:12 PM, Steve **KT0DX** wrote:
>     > Rick you must have found two OO's on a bad day as they never do
>     anything
>     > the other 364 days a year.  When they (OO's) do something about the
>     > likes of KZ8O located in Michigan then
>     > I might say worry a little about them.  Don't sell yourself out over
>     > this you are to good of an operator.  I enjoy sitting on 14.240
>     taking
>     > in all that you and N0UN talk about in regards to DX operating.
>     >
>     > Hang in there!
>     >
>     > Steve
>     > KT0DX (Fountain, CO.)
>     >
>     > On 4/1/2011 16:32, DickT-W0RAA wrote:
>     >> Rick,  toss them in the circular file.  An OO postcard is a
>     reminder, not
>     >> an
>     >> official warning.  It was not from the FCC.  I received one
>     years ago for
>     >> being close to the band edge while mobile.   Since I was a new
>     ham I
>     >> figured
>     >> the FCC was going to be pounding at my door.  It never
>     happened. A friend
>     >> told me the same thing that others have said to you: don't
>     sweat it, but
>     >> just be more aware the next time.  Now, if you were exactly on
>     14.025
>     >> part
>     >> of your signal may have been lower than that.  Two ways to
>     solve this
>     >> problem.  One is to stay a couple kc's away from the band edge
>     and 2, get
>     >> your Extra. If I can do it, you can do it.
>     >>
>     >> I hope you don't go QRT because of a couple post cards.  BTW,
>      if you
>     >> decide
>     >> to go through with this, I'll give you $500 for everything and
>     if you
>     >> throw
>     >> in the car with the mobile unit, I'll up my offer to $750.  Let
>     me know
>     >> ASAP.   ;)
>     >>
>     >> Dick
>     >> W0RAA
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     ----- Original  Message -----
>     >>     From: Rick WØRIC
>     >>     To: Telepresence Forum
>     >>     Cc: Al Reeves ; mhdxa at mhdxa.com <mailto:mhdxa at mhdxa.com> ;
>     OB-MJ ; tonyandginger D'Ercole ;
>     >> Rich
>     >> W9RG ; Grand Mesa Contest Club ; Hank W0CZE ; Larry ; Richie
>     W1STT ; John
>     >> Ayres ; chris&chantal ; raymond ; Don K2DC ; ARS KØKE Keith ;
>     William
>     >> Sawders ; Walt K1QS
>     >>     Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:08 AM
>     >>     Subject: [MHDXA] This was the last straw!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     Yesterday I received not one but two Official Observer
>     cards. Both
>     >> basically said I was "out-of-band".
>     >>
>     >>     The first one was from the WPX contest saying that on
>     14.225 I was
>     >> "transmitting out of band". WTF? My General licence says I can
>     TX  from
>     >> 14.225-14.350
>     >>
>     >>     The second Official Observer notice came from a CW DX
>     contact on
>     >> 14.025
>     >> saying I was sending CW too close to the "BAND EDGE" of my licence.
>     >>
>     >>     CW on the band edge? WTF???? Are you kidding me?
>     >>
>     >>     OK, so explain to me why is it when we call CQ DX on 14.240 and
>     >> stateside
>     >> stations QRM we don't hear about these great Official Observers
>     sending
>     >> cards to them?
>     >>
>     >>     Also, what about the stations who call over the DX, don't
>     run split
>     >> and
>     >> don't hear the DX and actually call the DX on the wrong
>     frequency? What
>     >> are
>     >> these great OO's doing?
>     >>
>     >>     So I was up all night thinking about all this. I've decided
>     to give
>     >> it
>     all
>     >> up.
>     >>
>     >>     I am in the process of listing  everything on eBay&   eham.
>     Tower,
>     >> antenna's, radio's, amp's, mobile etc. It all goes.
>     >>
>     >>     Its been fun knowing all of you and maybe in a decade I'll
>     reconsider
>     >> the
>     >> hobby like my good friend Wayne, N0UN did but for now, I AM DONE!
>     >>
>     >>     All the best to all my friends and I hope we remain good
>     friends.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     73
>     >>     Rick
>     >>     WØRIC
>     >> www.w0ric.com <http://www.w0ric.com/>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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