[PPRAANet] Fw: [GMCC] Suggestions for Colo. QSO Party
DickT-W0RAA
dickt at w0raa.com
Thu Nov 18 12:11:27 EST 2010
Thoughts about a change of info in the COQP. Something to think about.
Dick
W0RAA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Herrick" <bdh at teleport.com>
To: "Ken Anderson" <w0ett at msn.com>; <gmc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCC] Suggestions for Colo. QSO Party
>
>
>>I agree with Phil that the in state exchange should be changed from
>>Name/County to Signal Report/County, used by most the other state QSO
>>Parties.
>
> As an out-of-stater (and ex-GMCCer), I think a case can be made for both
> points of view. I like the name. It works well for the NAQP, and there's
> a friendly aspect to it. Sure, it will take a while for people to get
> used to it. The COQP is a new contest. But there's no doubt that many
> casual ops expect the signal report/county format. The WIQP uses county
> only, which is even better. You can tell who read the rules by how many
> times you hear '59' anyway in that contest.
>
>>However, the date of the COQP seems okay to me. From the stats sent out
>>by Doug, N7LEM of the PPRAA, the Saturday of the Labor Day weekend saw a
>>increase (slight may it be) in the out of state and Coloradan stations
>>that turned out this year compared to 2009 when the QSO Party was same
>>weekend as the Salmon Run QP.
>
> Again, the COQP is too new for this statistic to be meaningful. I don't
> think any contest should be on holiday weekends. Every year there is much
> whining about WPX on Memorial Day weekend and CQWW CW on Thanksgiving
> weekend. But no matter what weekend you pick, it will conflict with
> someone's plans and interfere with some other contest.
>
>>As for the categories, Alan is probably right that they could be reduced
>>without a reduction in activity.
>
> Agreed.
>>
>
>>As for the Zeroland QSO Party, I'm not excited about having yet another
>>QSO Party on the same weekend as County Hunters by Marec, NEQP, 7QP, and
>>Indiana QP.
>
> I strongly agree with that. When N0HF and I used to do the NEQP from his
> place in Boulder, the appearance of the 7QP trashed the 1st day of the
> NEQP for us. From out here, it's an extra layer of stations to work, but
> it's still confusing.
>
>>Maybe we should have annual contest day for counties for all the states so
>>we could reduce the number of state QSO Parties held every year...or,
>>perhaps district level contests like a NEQP, 7QP, Zeroland as well as all
>>the other districts, but eliminate all the individual state QSO
>>Parties...?
>
> Sometimes it seems like state QSO Parties are like repeaters - everyone
> wants their own. We thought the NEQP would eliminate the duplicity of the
> poorly attended QPs in the less populated New England states, but it
> didn't work that way. The Vermonters still insist on having their own 48
> hour (!) event. Good luck finding a single station to work in that one.
> The NHQP is a little more popular, but not by much.
>
> One of the best ways to make the contest more fun for everyone is to
> concentrate the activity by making the event shorter. The Wisconsin party
> is one of the most popular, in part because it's only 7 hours long. The
> rates you can get in the WIQP sometimes approach what you can achieve in
> the big contests.
>
> My $0.02 worth, from the Maine woods.
>
> 73,
> Bruce WW1M
>
>
>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:10:06 -0700
>>> From: AL7H at aol.com
>>> To: vailphil at sopris.net; n0hf at comcast.net; gmc at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>>
>>> While we are listing suggestions: I'd say the sponsors could narrow
>>> the list of entry categories and not lose anything.
>>> ~ Alan K0AV
>>>
>>> On 11/17/10, Phil Krichbaum <vailphil at sopris.net> wrote:
>>> > As for the casual OP trying to help us with QSOs when doing the CO
>>> > QP, I'd strongly suggest we eliminate the NAME as part of the exchange
>>> > as that is totally unexpected in a QP exchange. I'd also advise NOT
>>> > scheduling it again for the Labor Day holiday weekend or any other
>>> > holiday weekend. By eliminating the name, hopefully the exchanges
>>> > would
>>> > be the same for several state QPs on the same weekend.
>>> > Phil N0KE
>>> >
>>> > Dan Norman wrote:
>>> >> On the other hand it means more activity for everyone doing state QSO
>>> >> parties that weekend, NEQP is a favorite of mine from either here in
>>> >> CO
>>> >> or
>>> >> in New England, when I'm there I pick up many Q's from 7 QP, Indiana
>>> >> QP,
>>> >> even ARI (Italian contest) guys call me for a point. On the
>>> >> downside,
>>> >> casual ops aren't sure about all the different exchanges, so I have
>>> >> to
>>> >> fill
>>> >> in for them all the time. We'll see how it works out. Have fun,
>>> >> '73 Dan N0HF
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: gmc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> >> [mailto:gmc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
>>> >> Behalf Of DickT-W0RAA
>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:23 PM
>>> >> To: Jim Reisert AD1C; Grand Mesa Contesters
>>> >> Subject: Re: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>> >>
>>> >> I have a feeling that this will be a big bust with what other
>>> >> contests are
>>> >>
>>> >> scheduled for that same weekend. I think they should rethink the
>>> >> date.
>>> >> Going up against the 7 area QSO Party will make tough competition.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dick
>>> >> W0RAA
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>
>>> >> To: "Grand Mesa Contesters" <gmc at mailman.qth.net>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:55 PM
>>> >> Subject: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't shoot the messenger.
>>> >>
>>> >> See also: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=271653
>>> >>
>>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>>> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>> >> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:11:50 -0600
>>> >> From: ZEROLAND QSO PARTY <radioham at gmail.com>
>>> >> Reply-To: radioham at gmail.com
>>> >> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> >>
>>> >> "ZQP" Zeroland QSO Party Homepage
>>> >> ~Updated November 11th,2010~
>>> >>
>>> >> The Contest which allows everyone to work everyone...
>>> >>
>>> >> Sponsored by the *Iowa Wireless Contest Club. *
>>> >> <http://www.w0iw.com/>
>>> >> *"ZQP" Zeroland QSO Party Contest Rules
>>> >> *
>>> >> *Introducing the first
>>> >> ZEROLAND QSO PARTY*
>>> >> *Built by Ham Radio Contester's for Contester's...
>>> >> *
>>> >> *
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >> *
>>> >>
>>> >> *Object:*
>>> >> To contact as many stations as possible with a focus on contacting
>>> >> stations
>>> >> in Zeroland
>>> >> *(Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North
>>> >> Dakota, and
>>> >> South Dakota).*
>>> >>
>>> >> *Date:
>>> >> *First Saturday in May
>>> >>
>>> >> *Contest Period:
>>> >> **16:00 UTC Saturday to 04:00 UTC Sunday..
>>> >> ( ~11AM CDT to 11:00PM CDT~ )*
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> Entry Categories:
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> - In Zeroland
>>> >> - *Single Operator*:
>>> >> One person performs all transmitting, receiving and logging
>>> >> functions.
>>> >> One transmitted signal allowed at a time. Use of spotting
>>> >> assistance
>>> >> is allowed.
>>> >>
>>> >> - High Power (> 125W), or "More than 125w"
>>> >> - CW/Digital
>>> >> - Phone
>>> >> - Mixed
>>> >>
>>> >> - Low Power (< = 125W), or "125w and less".
>>> >> - CW/Digital
>>> >> - Phone
>>> >> - Mixed
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Multi-Operator:*
>>> >> More than on person performs all transmitting, receiving, and
>>> >> logging
>>> >> functions.
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Single Transmitter*:
>>> >> One transmitted signal at any given time. 10 minutes
>>> >> between
>>> >> band/mode changes. No power or mode categories.
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Multi Transmitter:*
>>> >> One transmitted signal per band per mode at any given time.
>>> >> No
>>> >> power or mode categories.
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Zeroland Expedition*:
>>> >> A temporary station setup in a Zeroland state in which the
>>> >> operators
>>> >> do not reside using temporary antennas (put the antenna up for
>>> >> the contest
>>> >> and take it down after the contest).
>>> >> Those using the station of an inactive Zeroland operator need
>>> >> to
>>> >> enter
>>> >> one of the categories above.
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Mobile*:
>>> >> Station capable of operating in motion.
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Outside Zeroland
>>> >> - *Single Operator*
>>> >> One person performs all transmitting, receiving and logging
>>> >> functions.
>>> >> One transmitted signal allowed at a time. Use of spotting
>>> >> assistance
>>> >> is allowed.
>>> >>
>>> >> - High Power (> 125W), or "More than 125w"
>>> >> - CW/Digital
>>> >> - Phone
>>> >> - Mixed
>>> >>
>>> >> - Low Power (< = 125W), or "125w and less".
>>> >> - CW/Digital
>>> >> - Phone
>>> >> - Mixed
>>> >> -
>>> >>
>>> >> - *Multi-Operator*
>>> >> More than on person performs all transmitting, receiving, and
>>> >> logging
>>> >> functions.
>>> >> - *Single Transmitter*
>>> >> One transmitted signal at any given time. 10 minutes
>>> >> between
>>> >> band/mode changes.
>>> >> - No power or mode categories.
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >> *Exchange:
>>> >> *US State or Canadian Province or "DX" for stations outside of the
>>> >> US
>>> >> and
>>> >> Canada.
>>> >> 59/599 maybe added as needed to satisfy requirements for those that
>>> >> are
>>> >> working other contests, but a
>>> >> "signal report" is not relevant to this contest.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Bands:*
>>> >> 160, 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 meters only.
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> Multipliers:
>>> >>
>>> >> In Zeroland:
>>> >>
>>> >> - Each US State (50) (DC counts as MD), Canadian Province (14),
>>> >> and
>>> >> DXCC Country Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW,
>>> >> Digital).
>>> >>
>>> >> *Outside Zeroland:
>>> >>
>>> >> *
>>> >> - Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW, Digital).
>>> >> - Each Zeroland state (8) per band per mode
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> *QSO Points:
>>> >> * Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW, Digital).
>>> >> One point for contacts with stations outside Zeroland. Five points
>>> >> for
>>> >> contacts
>>> >> with stations inside Zeroland. Duplicate QSOs are 0 points, but do
>>> >> not
>>> >> incur any penalties.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Scoring:
>>> >> *Mobile stations that change states are considered new stations each
>>> >> state
>>> >> and can be worked again for multiplier and/or QSO points.
>>> >> The mobile should be logged with the two letter state abbreviation
>>> >> following
>>> >> a / on the end of the call sign after the contact in the first state.
>>> >> The
>>> >> Total score is (QSO Points * Total Multipliers).
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> *Suggested Frequencies:*
>>> >> CW - 1.840 3.540 7.040 14.040 21.040 28.040
>>> >> SSB - 1.980 3.880 7.180 14.280 21.280 28.380
>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radio_Relay_League/band-plan-1
>>> >> ARRL BAND Plans for more details.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Awards: *
>>> >> Plaques and/or certificates will be awarded as participation
>>> >> warrants.
>>> >> Minimum 100 QSOs to be eligible for an award.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Logs:*
>>> >> Only digital Cabrillo logs will be accepted. Logs should indicate
>>> >> times
>>> >> in UTC, bands, modes, calls and required contest exchange (sent and
>>> >> received). All stations include your station callsign, mailing
>>> >> address,
>>> >> operator callsigns, club's name in the log header.
>>> >> Entries must be submitted within 15 days of the end of the contest
>>> >> and
>>> >> sent
>>> >> by email to logs at zerolandqsoparty.com . Written logs will not be
>>> >> accepted.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Other:*
>>> >> All stations are allowed to use spotting assistance, but self
>>> >> spotting
>>> >> will
>>> >> only be allowed on 10m and 160m.
>>> >> As this is the first running of the Zeroland QSO Party, check the
>>> >> website www.zerolandqsoparty.com
>>> >> periodically for changes/clarifications to the rules. In fairness
>>> >> for
>>> >> stations making preparations for the contest, two months from the
>>> >> contest
>>> >> date the rules will become static and any changes or clarifications
>>> >> that
>>> >> affect station operation with be looked at for 2012's ZQP.
>>> >> By submitting a log for the Zeroland QSO Party the entrant agrees
>>> >> that all
>>> >> decisions made by the Zeroland QSO Party log checking committee and
>>> >> the
>>> >> Iowa
>>> >> Wireless Club are final.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any questions please refer to info at w0iw.com
>>> >>
>>> >> (515)-250-2108
>>> >> sponsored by the *Iowa Wireless Contest Club*
>>> >>
>>> >> W0IW.com <http://www.w0iw.com/>
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