[PPRAANet] Fw: Fw: [GMCC] Suggestions for Colo. QSO Party
DickT-W0RAA
dickt at w0raa.com
Fri Dec 24 10:59:04 EST 2010
Something for the COQP managers to think about. Some good ideas.
Dick
W0RAA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve **KT0DX**" <kt0dx at comcast.net>
To: "DickT-W0RAA" <dickt at w0raa.com>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [PPRAANet] Fw: [GMCC] Suggestions for Colo. QSO Party
> This is more then likely to late but I like the suggestion to change the
> report to signal report and county. I would also like to see it go to a
> 24 hour contest. I think if it went to 24 hours it would give stations
> the chance to use the 40 and 80 meter bands. The start time I also think
> should be changed to start at 9 or 10 AM (local time).
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 11/18/2010 17:11, DickT-W0RAA wrote:
>> Thoughts about a change of info in the COQP. Something to think about.
>>
>> Dick
>> W0RAA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Herrick"<bdh at teleport.com>
>> To: "Ken Anderson"<w0ett at msn.com>;<gmc at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCC] Suggestions for Colo. QSO Party
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> I agree with Phil that the in state exchange should be changed from
>>>> Name/County to Signal Report/County, used by most the other state QSO
>>>> Parties.
>>> As an out-of-stater (and ex-GMCCer), I think a case can be made for both
>>> points of view. I like the name. It works well for the NAQP, and
>>> there's
>>> a friendly aspect to it. Sure, it will take a while for people to get
>>> used to it. The COQP is a new contest. But there's no doubt that many
>>> casual ops expect the signal report/county format. The WIQP uses county
>>> only, which is even better. You can tell who read the rules by how many
>>> times you hear '59' anyway in that contest.
>>>
>>>> However, the date of the COQP seems okay to me. From the stats sent
>>>> out
>>>> by Doug, N7LEM of the PPRAA, the Saturday of the Labor Day weekend saw
>>>> a
>>>> increase (slight may it be) in the out of state and Coloradan stations
>>>> that turned out this year compared to 2009 when the QSO Party was same
>>>> weekend as the Salmon Run QP.
>>> Again, the COQP is too new for this statistic to be meaningful. I don't
>>> think any contest should be on holiday weekends. Every year there is
>>> much
>>> whining about WPX on Memorial Day weekend and CQWW CW on Thanksgiving
>>> weekend. But no matter what weekend you pick, it will conflict with
>>> someone's plans and interfere with some other contest.
>>>
>>>> As for the categories, Alan is probably right that they could be
>>>> reduced
>>>> without a reduction in activity.
>>> Agreed.
>>>> As for the Zeroland QSO Party, I'm not excited about having yet another
>>>> QSO Party on the same weekend as County Hunters by Marec, NEQP, 7QP,
>>>> and
>>>> Indiana QP.
>>> I strongly agree with that. When N0HF and I used to do the NEQP from
>>> his
>>> place in Boulder, the appearance of the 7QP trashed the 1st day of the
>>> NEQP for us. From out here, it's an extra layer of stations to work,
>>> but
>>> it's still confusing.
>>>
>>>> Maybe we should have annual contest day for counties for all the states
>>>> so
>>>> we could reduce the number of state QSO Parties held every year...or,
>>>> perhaps district level contests like a NEQP, 7QP, Zeroland as well as
>>>> all
>>>> the other districts, but eliminate all the individual state QSO
>>>> Parties...?
>>> Sometimes it seems like state QSO Parties are like repeaters - everyone
>>> wants their own. We thought the NEQP would eliminate the duplicity of
>>> the
>>> poorly attended QPs in the less populated New England states, but it
>>> didn't work that way. The Vermonters still insist on having their own
>>> 48
>>> hour (!) event. Good luck finding a single station to work in that one.
>>> The NHQP is a little more popular, but not by much.
>>>
>>> One of the best ways to make the contest more fun for everyone is to
>>> concentrate the activity by making the event shorter. The Wisconsin
>>> party
>>> is one of the most popular, in part because it's only 7 hours long. The
>>> rates you can get in the WIQP sometimes approach what you can achieve in
>>> the big contests.
>>>
>>> My $0.02 worth, from the Maine woods.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bruce WW1M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:10:06 -0700
>>>>> From: AL7H at aol.com
>>>>> To: vailphil at sopris.net; n0hf at comcast.net; gmc at mailman.qth.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>>>>
>>>>> While we are listing suggestions: I'd say the sponsors could narrow
>>>>> the list of entry categories and not lose anything.
>>>>> ~ Alan K0AV
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/17/10, Phil Krichbaum<vailphil at sopris.net> wrote:
>>>>>> As for the casual OP trying to help us with QSOs when doing the
>>>>>> CO
>>>>>> QP, I'd strongly suggest we eliminate the NAME as part of the
>>>>>> exchange
>>>>>> as that is totally unexpected in a QP exchange. I'd also advise NOT
>>>>>> scheduling it again for the Labor Day holiday weekend or any other
>>>>>> holiday weekend. By eliminating the name, hopefully the exchanges
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be the same for several state QPs on the same weekend.
>>>>>> Phil N0KE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Norman wrote:
>>>>>>> On the other hand it means more activity for everyone doing state
>>>>>>> QSO
>>>>>>> parties that weekend, NEQP is a favorite of mine from either here
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> CO
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> in New England, when I'm there I pick up many Q's from 7 QP, Indiana
>>>>>>> QP,
>>>>>>> even ARI (Italian contest) guys call me for a point. On the
>>>>>>> downside,
>>>>>>> casual ops aren't sure about all the different exchanges, so I have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>> in for them all the time. We'll see how it works out. Have fun,
>>>>>>> '73 Dan N0HF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: gmc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>>>>> [mailto:gmc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of DickT-W0RAA
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: Jim Reisert AD1C; Grand Mesa Contesters
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a feeling that this will be a big bust with what other
>>>>>>> contests are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scheduled for that same weekend. I think they should rethink the
>>>>>>> date.
>>>>>>> Going up against the 7 area QSO Party will make tough competition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dick
>>>>>>> W0RAA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jim Reisert AD1C"<jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>
>>>>>>> To: "Grand Mesa Contesters"<gmc at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:55 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [GMCC] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't shoot the messenger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See also: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=271653
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] ZEROLAND QSO PARTY
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:11:50 -0600
>>>>>>> From: ZEROLAND QSO PARTY<radioham at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: radioham at gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ZQP" Zeroland QSO Party Homepage
>>>>>>> ~Updated November 11th,2010~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Contest which allows everyone to work everyone...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sponsored by the *Iowa Wireless Contest Club. *
>>>>>>> <http://www.w0iw.com/>
>>>>>>> *"ZQP" Zeroland QSO Party Contest Rules
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *Introducing the first
>>>>>>> ZEROLAND QSO PARTY*
>>>>>>> *Built by Ham Radio Contester's for Contester's...
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Object:*
>>>>>>> To contact as many stations as possible with a focus on contacting
>>>>>>> stations
>>>>>>> in Zeroland
>>>>>>> *(Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North
>>>>>>> Dakota, and
>>>>>>> South Dakota).*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Date:
>>>>>>> *First Saturday in May
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Contest Period:
>>>>>>> **16:00 UTC Saturday to 04:00 UTC Sunday..
>>>>>>> ( ~11AM CDT to 11:00PM CDT~ )*
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Entry Categories:
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - In Zeroland
>>>>>>> - *Single Operator*:
>>>>>>> One person performs all transmitting, receiving and logging
>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>> One transmitted signal allowed at a time. Use of spotting
>>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>>> is allowed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - High Power (> 125W), or "More than 125w"
>>>>>>> - CW/Digital
>>>>>>> - Phone
>>>>>>> - Mixed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Low Power (< = 125W), or "125w and less".
>>>>>>> - CW/Digital
>>>>>>> - Phone
>>>>>>> - Mixed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Multi-Operator:*
>>>>>>> More than on person performs all transmitting, receiving,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Single Transmitter*:
>>>>>>> One transmitted signal at any given time. 10 minutes
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> band/mode changes. No power or mode categories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Multi Transmitter:*
>>>>>>> One transmitted signal per band per mode at any given
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>> power or mode categories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Zeroland Expedition*:
>>>>>>> A temporary station setup in a Zeroland state in which the
>>>>>>> operators
>>>>>>> do not reside using temporary antennas (put the antenna up
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the contest
>>>>>>> and take it down after the contest).
>>>>>>> Those using the station of an inactive Zeroland operator
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> enter
>>>>>>> one of the categories above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Mobile*:
>>>>>>> Station capable of operating in motion.
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Outside Zeroland
>>>>>>> - *Single Operator*
>>>>>>> One person performs all transmitting, receiving and logging
>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>> One transmitted signal allowed at a time. Use of spotting
>>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>>> is allowed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - High Power (> 125W), or "More than 125w"
>>>>>>> - CW/Digital
>>>>>>> - Phone
>>>>>>> - Mixed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Low Power (< = 125W), or "125w and less".
>>>>>>> - CW/Digital
>>>>>>> - Phone
>>>>>>> - Mixed
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - *Multi-Operator*
>>>>>>> More than on person performs all transmitting, receiving,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>> - *Single Transmitter*
>>>>>>> One transmitted signal at any given time. 10 minutes
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> band/mode changes.
>>>>>>> - No power or mode categories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *Exchange:
>>>>>>> *US State or Canadian Province or "DX" for stations outside of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Canada.
>>>>>>> 59/599 maybe added as needed to satisfy requirements for those that
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> working other contests, but a
>>>>>>> "signal report" is not relevant to this contest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Bands:*
>>>>>>> 160, 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 meters only.
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Multipliers:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Zeroland:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Each US State (50) (DC counts as MD), Canadian Province (14),
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> DXCC Country Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW,
>>>>>>> Digital).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Outside Zeroland:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> - Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW, Digital).
>>>>>>> - Each Zeroland state (8) per band per mode
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *QSO Points:
>>>>>>> * Stations count once per band per mode (Phone, CW, Digital).
>>>>>>> One point for contacts with stations outside Zeroland. Five points
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> contacts
>>>>>>> with stations inside Zeroland. Duplicate QSOs are 0 points, but do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> incur any penalties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Scoring:
>>>>>>> *Mobile stations that change states are considered new stations each
>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>> and can be worked again for multiplier and/or QSO points.
>>>>>>> The mobile should be logged with the two letter state abbreviation
>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>> a / on the end of the call sign after the contact in the first
>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> Total score is (QSO Points * Total Multipliers).
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Suggested Frequencies:*
>>>>>>> CW - 1.840 3.540 7.040 14.040 21.040 28.040
>>>>>>> SSB - 1.980 3.880 7.180 14.280 21.280 28.380
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radio_Relay_League/band-plan-1
>>>>>>> ARRL BAND Plans for more details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Awards: *
>>>>>>> Plaques and/or certificates will be awarded as participation
>>>>>>> warrants.
>>>>>>> Minimum 100 QSOs to be eligible for an award.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Logs:*
>>>>>>> Only digital Cabrillo logs will be accepted. Logs should
>>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>> in UTC, bands, modes, calls and required contest exchange (sent and
>>>>>>> received). All stations include your station callsign, mailing
>>>>>>> address,
>>>>>>> operator callsigns, club's name in the log header.
>>>>>>> Entries must be submitted within 15 days of the end of the contest
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> sent
>>>>>>> by email to logs at zerolandqsoparty.com . Written logs will not be
>>>>>>> accepted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Other:*
>>>>>>> All stations are allowed to use spotting assistance, but self
>>>>>>> spotting
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> only be allowed on 10m and 160m.
>>>>>>> As this is the first running of the Zeroland QSO Party, check the
>>>>>>> website www.zerolandqsoparty.com
>>>>>>> periodically for changes/clarifications to the rules. In fairness
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> stations making preparations for the contest, two months from the
>>>>>>> contest
>>>>>>> date the rules will become static and any changes or clarifications
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> affect station operation with be looked at for 2012's ZQP.
>>>>>>> By submitting a log for the Zeroland QSO Party the entrant agrees
>>>>>>> that all
>>>>>>> decisions made by the Zeroland QSO Party log checking committee and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Iowa
>>>>>>> Wireless Club are final.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any questions please refer to info at w0iw.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (515)-250-2108
>>>>>>> sponsored by the *Iowa Wireless Contest Club*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W0IW.com<http://www.w0iw.com/>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
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