[PCR-1000] RE: PCR-1000 Digest, Vol 25, Issue 2

Tom Hayes THayes at gibsons.com
Thu May 3 09:07:31 EDT 2007


It sounds like you might have had a ground fault.  Check your ground connections in the 2 AC receptacle to make sure they are grounded to the green ground screw and to the box.  You might also want to check the termination in the mains panel and ensure they are all tight.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: still power on problem (SOLVED!!!) (mikea)
   2. Re: still power on problem (SOLVED!!!) (A10382)
   3. Re: still power on problem (SOLVED!!!) (R. J. Grasser)
   4. List is working :) (John)
   5. Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite  (Mike Curtis)
   6. Re: Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite  (jerry w7iew)
   7. Re: Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite  (Roger Kolakowski)
   8. Re: Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite  (Tobbe)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:56:19 -0500
From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)
To: Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <20070502125619.GB20170 at mikea.ath.cx>
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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 12:25:26AM +0200, MN wrote:
> Hello together.
> 
> Some weeks ago i posted my power-on problem here. Now I solved it.
> I explain it here, maybe somebody is interested what was wrong:
> 
> The pcr1k and the pc were an different mains power plugs.
> There was a voltage difference between the pc and pcr1k, wich caused the
> problem, because there was a high current at the serial cable
> to the pcr. Now it works perfectly again!
> 
> 73 de Marcus
> 
> p.s. is the list still alive? I read nothing since weeks...

Well done. The voltage difference may indicate a problem with your
house (or office or apartment) power wiring, which you may want to
have an electrician investigate. I suppose you could build a box with
opto-isolators in it to provide DC isolation between the PC and the 
PCR1K while still moving data between them. You also could just buy 
one; there are several shown in a very quick Google search.

The list is very quiet. If it's not dead, it's sleeping very soundly.
I'm glad to see your post. 

-- 
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mikea at mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin 


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:42:03 -0400
From: "A10382" <a10382 at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <002801c78cbf$ac955b20$338d4c0c at D8C6PCC1>
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Or -- multiple 'grounds' of differing potentials.  Usually a problem in 
commercial buildings ( typically in a multi-building campus) more often than 
in a residence.  It usually shows its ugly head when trying to run cables 
from building to building.  Sometimes, the best solution is as noted below - 
use opto-isolators.
=====
Frank

._._.


----- Original Message ----- 
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom"
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)


> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 12:25:26AM +0200, MN wrote:
>> Hello together.
>>
>> Some weeks ago i posted my power-on problem here. Now I solved it.
>> I explain it here, maybe somebody is interested what was wrong:
>>
>> The pcr1k and the pc were an different mains power plugs.
>> There was a voltage difference between the pc and pcr1k, wich caused the
>> problem, because there was a high current at the serial cable
>> to the pcr. Now it works perfectly again!
>>

>
> Well done. The voltage difference may indicate a problem with your
> house (or office or apartment) power wiring, which you may want to
> have an electrician investigate. I suppose you could build a box with
> opto-isolators in it to provide DC isolation between the PC and the
> PCR1K while still moving data between them. You also could just buy
> one; there are several shown in a very quick Google search.
>
> The list is very quiet. If it's not dead, it's sleeping very soundly.
> I'm glad to see your post.
>
> -- 



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 13:54:37 -0400
From: "R. J. Grasser" <rgrasser at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000401c78ce2$f3738440$02fea8c0 at D9MKR6C1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

As a rule of thumb, I toss the "wall wart" type powersupplies, and run all 
my DC gear off of a variable linear bench powersupply.  Never had any 
problems.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A10382" <a10382 at snet.net>
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)


> Or -- multiple 'grounds' of differing potentials.  Usually a problem in 
> commercial buildings ( typically in a multi-building campus) more often 
> than in a residence.  It usually shows its ugly head when trying to run 
> cables from building to building.  Sometimes, the best solution is as 
> noted below - use opto-isolators.
> =====
> Frank
>
> ._._.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] still power on problem (SOLVED!!!)
>
>
>> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 12:25:26AM +0200, MN wrote:
>>> Hello together.
>>>
>>> Some weeks ago i posted my power-on problem here. Now I solved it.
>>> I explain it here, maybe somebody is interested what was wrong:
>>>
>>> The pcr1k and the pc were an different mains power plugs.
>>> There was a voltage difference between the pc and pcr1k, wich caused the
>>> problem, because there was a high current at the serial cable
>>> to the pcr. Now it works perfectly again!
>>>
>
>>
>> Well done. The voltage difference may indicate a problem with your
>> house (or office or apartment) power wiring, which you may want to
>> have an electrician investigate. I suppose you could build a box with
>> opto-isolators in it to provide DC isolation between the PC and the
>> PCR1K while still moving data between them. You also could just buy
>> one; there are several shown in a very quick Google search.
>>
>> The list is very quiet. If it's not dead, it's sleeping very soundly.
>> I'm glad to see your post.
>>
>> -- 
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 18:10:15 -0400
From: John <jharris2k at frontiernet.net>
Subject: [PCR-1000] List is working :)
To: pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net
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   Hi
   The list is still working
   Not too many posts
   My PCR is still in the box since moving a while back.
   Need to get it out and hooked up again
   John


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:12:33 -0400
From: "Mike Curtis" <mcurtis at nc.rr.com>
Subject: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite 
To: "'Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom'" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000801c78d0f$5de4cc90$6e01a8c0 at AMD64x2>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I am glad to see the list getting some activity.
I have a question for the group.
Is anyone out there using the PCR for Satellite reception?
I have just built a quadrifilar helix antenna, and I have been playing
around with receiving some of the pictures coming down from the NOAA birds.
I am getting pictures, but the quality is poor.
Is anyone out there using the PCR-1000, and if you are do you have any tips
for doing it.
I have been using wxtrack to track the NOAA satellites, and recording using
TalkPCR to a .wav file.  Then I am importing the wav file into wxtoimg.
Wxtoimg maskes a picture out of the recording and can understand the pass
signature in the file fine, but as I said the quality is pretty poor.  I
have the receiver set to NBFM and 50kHz filter, and I have tried recording
from both the speaker output and the packet output.  From everything I have
read this should be the correct settings.
If anyone out there is using their PCR-1000 for Satellite reception I would
love to hear from you.
Thanks!

http://www.wxtoimg.com/
http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/wxtrack.htm





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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:25:29 -0700
From: "jerry w7iew" <w7iew1 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite 
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <000901c78d11$2c76c490$6501a8c0 at w7iew>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

hello to all, been on this reflector for a while now ,just got back from the
sand box with my pcr 1000 listing to what ever I can. I had mine for almost
four yrs now and I do weak signal stuff including sat and listen from time
to time to the birds . I us my sat antenna's and even with them need the
preamp on .have not down loaded any pics from NOAA.but ear stuff.. my two
cents .jerry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Curtis" <mcurtis at nc.rr.com>
To: "'Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom'" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite


> I am glad to see the list getting some activity.
> I have a question for the group.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR for Satellite reception?
> I have just built a quadrifilar helix antenna, and I have been playing
> around with receiving some of the pictures coming down from the NOAA
birds.
> I am getting pictures, but the quality is poor.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR-1000, and if you are do you have any
tips
> for doing it.
> I have been using wxtrack to track the NOAA satellites, and recording
using
> TalkPCR to a .wav file.  Then I am importing the wav file into wxtoimg.
> Wxtoimg maskes a picture out of the recording and can understand the pass
> signature in the file fine, but as I said the quality is pretty poor.  I
> have the receiver set to NBFM and 50kHz filter, and I have tried recording
> from both the speaker output and the packet output.  From everything I
have
> read this should be the correct settings.
> If anyone out there is using their PCR-1000 for Satellite reception I
would
> love to hear from you.
> Thanks!
>
> http://www.wxtoimg.com/
> http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/wxtrack.htm
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:37:32 -0300
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite 
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <002301c78d0a$7927f680$0200a8c0 at Tanguray>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I believe I used WFM and I thought there was a next wider option above 50
KHZ that I used...I had great success...

For some reason 70 kHz sticks in my mind...Oh by the way...an inexpensive
preamp helps greatly...check Ramsay or the other kit guys...even a TV preamp
will help...

Roger
WA1KAT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Curtis" <mcurtis at nc.rr.com>
To: "'Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom'" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite


> I am glad to see the list getting some activity.
> I have a question for the group.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR for Satellite reception?
> I have just built a quadrifilar helix antenna, and I have been playing
> around with receiving some of the pictures coming down from the NOAA
birds.
> I am getting pictures, but the quality is poor.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR-1000, and if you are do you have any
tips
> for doing it.
> I have been using wxtrack to track the NOAA satellites, and recording
using
> TalkPCR to a .wav file.  Then I am importing the wav file into wxtoimg.
> Wxtoimg maskes a picture out of the recording and can understand the pass
> signature in the file fine, but as I said the quality is pretty poor.  I
> have the receiver set to NBFM and 50kHz filter, and I have tried recording
> from both the speaker output and the packet output.  From everything I
have
> read this should be the correct settings.
> If anyone out there is using their PCR-1000 for Satellite reception I
would
> love to hear from you.
> Thanks!
>
> http://www.wxtoimg.com/
> http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/wxtrack.htm
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 02:51:34 +0200
From: "Tobbe" <torix at telia.com>
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] Using the PCR-1000 for Satellite 
To: "Discussion of PCR-1000 by Icom" <pcr-1000 at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <001201c78d1d$32b06ee0$2101a8c0 at p4dcfe0fe4f584>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi Mike and group,

I use for satellite monitoring the PCR-1000 (of course...) Satscape for 
tracking of all satellites and Wxsat for decoding. Antenna is a Dressler 
ARA-2000 and it is mounted on the roof 17 m over ground.

Satscape website               www.satscape.co.uk
Wxsat website                   http://www.hffax.de/html/hauptteil_wxsat.htm
A Dressler dealer website  http://www.thiecom.de/ara.htm (they sell the 
antenna, it's in german)

I set bandwidth to 50 kHz and NBFM mode and use the speaker out to line in 
on computer.

Usually I have to set level in the mixer every time I use wxsat because 
different software have different levels, I decode cw, rtty, ale and some 
other modes from shortwave but from another receiver. But when level is set 
I can get rather good pictures. The good thing with wxsat is live decoding 
and you can choose how picture will display if satellite is coming from 
north or south.

One funny thing with Satscape when I run tracking is that when the satellite 
footprint edge passes my position I usually start to hear the signal. One 
thing to remember is to update Kepler elements, another is to set home 
position in the program.

Hope this helps!!

Best regards

Torbjorn in Nykoping, Sweden




>I am glad to see the list getting some activity.
> I have a question for the group.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR for Satellite reception?
> I have just built a quadrifilar helix antenna, and I have been playing
> around with receiving some of the pictures coming down from the NOAA 
> birds.
> I am getting pictures, but the quality is poor.
> Is anyone out there using the PCR-1000, and if you are do you have any 
> tips
> for doing it.
> I have been using wxtrack to track the NOAA satellites, and recording 
> using
> TalkPCR to a .wav file.  Then I am importing the wav file into wxtoimg.
> Wxtoimg maskes a picture out of the recording and can understand the pass
> signature in the file fine, but as I said the quality is pretty poor.  I
> have the receiver set to NBFM and 50kHz filter, and I have tried recording
> from both the speaker output and the packet output.  From everything I 
> have
> read this should be the correct settings.
> If anyone out there is using their PCR-1000 for Satellite reception I 
> would
> love to hear from you.
> Thanks!
>
> http://www.wxtoimg.com/
> http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/wxtrack.htm



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