From wa2fgk at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  2 14:50:14 2018
From: wa2fgk at yahoo.com (Herb Krumich)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:50:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
References: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361@mail.yahoo.com>

As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques and certificates this year ?I for one would. 
Most of us are up in age and have won our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS 
Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light

From davidastout at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  2 15:24:05 2018
From: davidastout at yahoo.com (David Stout)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:24:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
References: <1730140973.1428749.1527967445495.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1730140973.1428749.1527967445495@mail.yahoo.com>

Herb

I believe the reason for all the plaques, specifically out of state plaques, is to increase interest for out of state participants. Which I think everyone would agree is not only true but a lovely idea. However, I agree with you. The plaques add a lot of extra work. I think I speak for everyone when I say we want the contest to continue even if it means giving up awards. At best, I would be quite satisfied if the number of plaque categories were reduced. At worst, I would carry on without them at all. 

There is no doubt that there are many individuals and small groups that simply can't take over. I believe it's going to take a reasonably sized club to take it. It pains me that our small team doesn't have the resources to do it. But I would if I could and I think many of you feel the same way. I can only hope that some club or group picks it up and that group would certainly have my blessing if they streamlined the work load.

I need not tell anyone on this reflector that the PA QP is one the most participated QSO Parties in the nation. I, for one, will never forget all the hard work that Mike and the guys put into it over the years. It would be a shame for it to end now after all this effort. 

My fingers are crossed. 
Dave
KY3W

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 6/2/18, Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

 Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
 To: "paqso at mailman.qth.net" <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Saturday, June 2, 2018, 2:50 PM
 
 As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party
 has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering
 what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the
 preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me
 outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques
 and certificates this year ?I for one would. 
 Most of us are up in age and have won
 our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the
 friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your
 thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS 
 Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
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From dave at pkministrywebs.com  Sat Jun  2 17:04:30 2018
From: dave at pkministrywebs.com (Dave Edmonds)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 17:04:30 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <1730140973.1428749.1527967445495@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<1730140973.1428749.1527967445495@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hello PAQP'ers,

I've participated in the PAQP for the last 3-4 years and I finally finished
top of a category. I'm looking forward to receiving an award for my efforts
in the 2017 PAQP.

PAQP is one of the top QPs on the planet. It's log submission numbers have
been strong for many years thanks to the fine job that Mike has done.

I don't really know about the problems facing

Herb raised the question about plaques/awards. Winning a contest award from
one of the most active QPs is something of value to the competitive player,
whether in state or out of state. We all have our reasons for participating
in the PAQP. I don't have ties to PA, but I've been there several times and
enjoyed my visits. For the OOS guys, the awards program does have an impact
on QP participation. What if WPX decided to stop offering awards to their
category winners... would participation increase, stay the same or decline?
I think that I know the answer.

We can't assume that 'most of us have won awards etc." Not everyone who
plays in the PAQP has won a PAQP award.

My personal goal is to achieve a category win in every QSO Party on the
planet. So far my map is filling up nicely, with 15 or so 1st place wins. I
would really like it if every state QP had a plaque with the outline of the
state, so that I could put all of them in the spot on the wall map. I'm
dreaming... Frankly, I love the unique "edible" awards that many QPs
provide.. I've received beef jerky, rice from Minnesota, syrup from Vermont
etc. Y'all could give away something made of steel/iron, like a tower or
something. The Carolina Weekend gives away BBQ dinners and ham store gift
certificate.

As a state QP admin and one who works every QP on the air, I would be glad
to share some of the issues that we faced in the re-tooling of the SCQP
several years ago. We created a balanced awards program. Basically we
offered the same power/mode category awards to in state and out of state
stations, except for mobile/rover awards. Scale back on awards, but keep
them balanced. For example.. instead of having a CW only category, you
could go with Mixed with three power options. There are many ways to do it,
but please make those decisions wisely.  One QP out there offers 1 plaque
to OOS and many to the in-state stations. I see little reason to every
participate in that one.

I hope that the PAQP continues to be one of the best QPs on the planet. I
will be proud to display my PAQP award, when I receive it.

73s Dave WN4AFP
SCQP Team Leader




On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:24 PM, David Stout via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net
> wrote:

> Herb
>
> I believe the reason for all the plaques, specifically out of state
> plaques, is to increase interest for out of state participants. Which I
> think everyone would agree is not only true but a lovely idea. However, I
> agree with you. The plaques add a lot of extra work. I think I speak for
> everyone when I say we want the contest to continue even if it means giving
> up awards. At best, I would be quite satisfied if the number of plaque
> categories were reduced. At worst, I would carry on without them at all.
>
> There is no doubt that there are many individuals and small groups that
> simply can't take over. I believe it's going to take a reasonably sized
> club to take it. It pains me that our small team doesn't have the resources
> to do it. But I would if I could and I think many of you feel the same way.
> I can only hope that some club or group picks it up and that group would
> certainly have my blessing if they streamlined the work load.
>
> I need not tell anyone on this reflector that the PA QP is one the most
> participated QSO Parties in the nation. I, for one, will never forget all
> the hard work that Mike and the guys put into it over the years. It would
> be a shame for it to end now after all this effort.
>
> My fingers are crossed.
> Dave
> KY3W
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 6/2/18, Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
>  To: "paqso at mailman.qth.net" <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
>  Date: Saturday, June 2, 2018, 2:50 PM
>
>  As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party
>  has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering
>  what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the
>  preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me
>  outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques
>  and certificates this year ?I for one would.
>  Most of us are up in age and have won
>  our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the
>  friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your
>  thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS
>  Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
>  ______________________________________________________________
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>  Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso
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From n3ntj at embarqmail.com  Sat Jun  2 17:30:31 2018
From: n3ntj at embarqmail.com (Matthew Steger)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 17:30:31 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <CAHQrxh+g3Fo5F-AxFJtE--pr=m2RFkJwitV83EAs75oKWY4Nmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1730140973.1428749.1527967445495.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1730140973.1428749.1527967445495@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAHQrxh+g3Fo5F-AxFJtE--pr=m2RFkJwitV83EAs75oKWY4Nmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A8334477-9B5C-43E1-89C1-D67B6F64C8AD@embarqmail.com>

No need for plaques, T-shirts, or mugs as far as I am concerned.  Basic county winner certificates are nice, though; gives me something to aim for.  I?ve been doing the QSO Party for nearly 25 years and look forward to it every year.

73
Matt
N3NTJ

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello PAQP'ers,
> 
> I've participated in the PAQP for the last 3-4 years and I finally finished
> top of a category. I'm looking forward to receiving an award for my efforts
> in the 2017 PAQP.
> 
> PAQP is one of the top QPs on the planet. It's log submission numbers have
> been strong for many years thanks to the fine job that Mike has done.
> 
> I don't really know about the problems facing
> 
> Herb raised the question about plaques/awards. Winning a contest award from
> one of the most active QPs is something of value to the competitive player,
> whether in state or out of state. We all have our reasons for participating
> in the PAQP. I don't have ties to PA, but I've been there several times and
> enjoyed my visits. For the OOS guys, the awards program does have an impact
> on QP participation. What if WPX decided to stop offering awards to their
> category winners... would participation increase, stay the same or decline?
> I think that I know the answer.
> 
> We can't assume that 'most of us have won awards etc." Not everyone who
> plays in the PAQP has won a PAQP award.
> 
> My personal goal is to achieve a category win in every QSO Party on the
> planet. So far my map is filling up nicely, with 15 or so 1st place wins. I
> would really like it if every state QP had a plaque with the outline of the
> state, so that I could put all of them in the spot on the wall map. I'm
> dreaming... Frankly, I love the unique "edible" awards that many QPs
> provide.. I've received beef jerky, rice from Minnesota, syrup from Vermont
> etc. Y'all could give away something made of steel/iron, like a tower or
> something. The Carolina Weekend gives away BBQ dinners and ham store gift
> certificate.
> 
> As a state QP admin and one who works every QP on the air, I would be glad
> to share some of the issues that we faced in the re-tooling of the SCQP
> several years ago. We created a balanced awards program. Basically we
> offered the same power/mode category awards to in state and out of state
> stations, except for mobile/rover awards. Scale back on awards, but keep
> them balanced. For example.. instead of having a CW only category, you
> could go with Mixed with three power options. There are many ways to do it,
> Hello PAQP'ers,
> 
> I've participated in the PAQP for the last 3-4 years and I finally finished
> top of a category. I'm looking forward to receiving an award for my efforts
> in the 2017 PAQP.
> 
> PAQP is one of the top QPs on the planet. It's log submission numbers have
> been strong for many years thanks to the fine job that Mike has done.
> 
> I don't really know about the problems facing
> 
> Herb raised the question about plaques/awards. Winning a contest award from
> one of the most active QPs is something of value to the competitive player,
> whether in state or out of state. We all have our reasons for participating
> in the PAQP. I don't have ties to PA, but I've been there several times and
> enjoyed my visits. For the OOS guys, the awards program does have an impact
> on QP participation. What if WPX decided to stop offering awards to their
> category winners... would participation increase, stay the same or decline?
> I think that I know the answer.
> 
> We can't assume that 'most of us have won awards etc." Not everyone who
> plays in the PAQP has won a PAQP award.
> 
> My personal goal is to achieve a category win in every QSO Party on the
> planet. So far my map is filling up nicely, with 15 or so 1st place wins. I
> would really like it if every state QP had a plaque with the outline of the
> state, so that I could put all of them in the spot on the wall map. I'm
> dreaming... Frankly, I love the unique "edible" awards that many QPs
> provide.. I've received beef jerky, rice from Minnesota, syrup from Vermont
> etc. Y'all could give away something made of steel/iron, like a tower or
> something. The Carolina Weekend gives away BBQ dinners and ham store gift
> certificate.
> 
> As a state QP admin and one who works every QP on the air, I would be glad
> to share some of the issues that we faced in the re-tooling of the SCQP
> several years ago. We created a balanced awards program. Basically we
> offered the same power/mode category awards to in state and out of state
> stations, except for mobile/rover awards. Scale back on awards, but keep
> them balanced. For example.. instead of having a CW only category, you
> could go with Mixed with three power options. There are many ways to do it,
> but please make those decisions wisely.  One QP out there offers 1 plaque
> to OOS and many to the in-state stations. I see little reason to every
> participate in that one.
> 
> I hope that the PAQP continues to be one of the best QPs on the planet. I
> will be proud to display my PAQP award, when I receive it.
> 
> 73s Dave WN4AFP
> SCQP Team Leader
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:24 PM, David Stout via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net
>> wrote:
> 
>> Herb
>> 
>> I believe the reason for all the plaques, specifically out of state
>> plaques, is to increase interest for out of state participants. Which I
>> think everyone would agree is not only true but a lovely idea. However, I
>> agree with you. The plaques add a lot of extra work. I think I speak for
>> everyone when I say we want the contest to continue even if it means giving
>> up awards. At best, I would be quite satisfied if the number of plaque
>> categories were reduced. At worst, I would carry on without them at all.
>> 
>> There is no doubt that there are many individuals and small groups that
>> simply can't take over. I believe it's going to take a reasonably sized
>> club to take it. It pains me that our small team doesn't have the resources
>> to do it. But I would if I could and I think many of you feel the same way.
>> I can only hope that some club or group picks it up and that group would
>> certainly have my blessing if they streamlined the work load.
>> 
>> I need not tell anyone on this reflector that the PA QP is one the most
>> participated QSO Parties in the nation. I, for one, will never forget all
>> the hard work that Mike and the guys put into it over the years. It would
>> be a shame for it to end now after all this effort.
>> 
>> My fingers are crossed.
>> Dave
>> KY3W
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sat, 6/2/18, Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
>> To: "paqso at mailman.qth.net" <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: Saturday, June 2, 2018, 2:50 PM
>> 
>> As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party
>> has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering
>> what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the
>> preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me
>> outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques
>> and certificates this year ?I for one would.
>> Most of us are up in age and have won
>> our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the
>> friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your
>> thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS
>> Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> PaQSO mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> Post: mailto:PaQSO at mailman.qth.net
>> 
>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
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>> Message delivered to davidastout at yahoo.com
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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From w3wh at comcast.net  Sat Jun  2 18:00:00 2018
From: w3wh at comcast.net (William Hill)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 18:00:00 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Saving the Party
Message-ID: <d162753d-de13-ccd4-6bd3-7893069c1f63@comcast.net>

Along with many others, I hope the Pa Party survives. Since the Plaques 
seem to cause much work, why not make arrangements with a plaque vendor 
and let the winners contact that vendor and make their own arrangements. 
This leaves the administrators out of that loop and perhaps lowers the 
workload enough to attract a new leadership team.

Just my $.02

73,

Bill/W3WH


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From dave at pkministrywebs.com  Sat Jun  2 19:57:47 2018
From: dave at pkministrywebs.com (Dave Edmonds)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:57:47 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Saving the Party
In-Reply-To: <d162753d-de13-ccd4-6bd3-7893069c1f63@comcast.net>
References: <d162753d-de13-ccd4-6bd3-7893069c1f63@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAHQrxhJXA1LQkeWeX_QsydPBBQAAUbY2PSP3XRxp0+4N0v3OGw@mail.gmail.com>

If the issue is the plaque process.... here?s an idea...

I recently created some metal awards for our contest club. I created a
certificate in photoshop then uploaded it to nations photo lab. They took
the certificate and created a clear coated metal award.  It?s easy to ship
and the company can ship it for you.

GL
Dave WN4AFP



On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 6:00 PM William Hill <w3wh at comcast.net> wrote:

> Along with many others, I hope the Pa Party survives. Since the Plaques
> seem to cause much work, why not make arrangements with a plaque vendor
> and let the winners contact that vendor and make their own arrangements.
> This leaves the administrators out of that loop and perhaps lowers the
> workload enough to attract a new leadership team.
>
> Just my $.02
>
> 73,
>
> Bill/W3WH
>
>
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From mjcn3li at gmail.com  Sat Jun  2 23:08:52 2018
From: mjcn3li at gmail.com (Michael Coslo)
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 23:08:52 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Update
Message-ID: <359A5505-6A19-44D8-9FC5-B72A858DFE8C@gmail.com>

Good day all,

The plaques are due back 2 weeks from Friday. They had  problem that for some unknown reason they didn?t get hold of me to correct, so they had to start over again. I?ve applied some bit of pressure on them to perform their jobs.

By the way, I haven?t been as responsive as normal to posts, and that is out of character.  Things shall be made clear soon though, so bear with.

From k3yd at aol.com  Sun Jun  3 10:48:59 2018
From: k3yd at aol.com (K3YD)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 10:48:59 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<888196392.1443606.1527965414361@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <163c61f6ddf-c94-1d4b6@webjas-vab125.srv.aolmail.net>


 I've never won a plaque and doubt if I have ever won a certificate in PAQP.  The only certificates which I have kept are WAS, WAC.  I have worked over 200 countries (all with wire), but have never filed for DXCC.  For me, it is the "Fun of the chase".


So if we can have the fun of PAQP without burdening a sponsoring club without the hassle of plaques and certificates, I say, "Let's do it"


73 de k3yd

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
To: paqso <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2018 2:51 pm
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party

As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques and certificates this year ?I for one would. 
Most of us are up in age and have won our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS 
Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
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From dave at pkministrywebs.com  Sun Jun  3 12:21:27 2018
From: dave at pkministrywebs.com (Dave Edmonds)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:21:27 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <163c61f6ddf-c94-1d4b6@webjas-vab125.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<888196392.1443606.1527965414361@mail.yahoo.com>
	<163c61f6ddf-c94-1d4b6@webjas-vab125.srv.aolmail.net>
Message-ID: <CAHQrxhKJmWNGNqL_JQgTqEZBSBia8ZR2_9cVxz+VT7Gy5eT0Mw@mail.gmail.com>

If no awards/certificates are awarded, then does the new club need to be
burdened by the time-consuming scoring process?

Dave WN4AFP
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:49 AM K3YD via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

>
>  I've never won a plaque and doubt if I have ever won a certificate in
> PAQP.  The only certificates which I have kept are WAS, WAC.  I have worked
> over 200 countries (all with wire), but have never filed for DXCC.  For me,
> it is the "Fun of the chase".
>
>
> So if we can have the fun of PAQP without burdening a sponsoring club
> without the hassle of plaques and certificates, I say, "Let's do it"
>
>
> 73 de k3yd
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> To: paqso <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2018 2:51 pm
> Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
>
> As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party has become a massive amount of
> year long work.I've pondering what the major amount of work is.I believe
> it's the preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me outWould
> hams operate the contest if there were no plaques and certificates this
> year ?I for one would.
> Most of us are up in age and have won our share of contests in the
> past.For myself, I enjoy the friendly competition and talking to old
> friends.Please your thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS
> Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
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From w3hkk at roadrunner.com  Sun Jun  3 12:43:12 2018
From: w3hkk at roadrunner.com (w3hkk at roadrunner.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:43:12 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] PAQP kudos-NARC kudos-flashbacks
Message-ID: <20180603164312.QVVWU.24247.root@cdptpa-web07>

Being born and raised in the Keystone State(Philly), a PA ex-pat all of my  adult life, a PSU alum who has returned for many  football games,  former member of the  W3YA  Radio Club,  and holder of a very similar call to K3HKK,  the PAQP - and NARC   have always  held a special place in my heart. A few years ago I even targeted the Clean Sweep award, which now hangs on my wall, right next to  9BDXCC, a JY1 qsl, and other notable items collected over 62 years as W3HKK.  

Over the years, during regular trips to Happy Valley, simply announcing my call  on a local repeater usually brought a couple of replies/welcomes and comments from "the locals."  And come October I  always find time for the  PAQP with a special goal of  working as many counties as possible. But sometimes I'd just listen for familiar calls, voices, ormy former home counties of Philly, Lancaster, Centre and Allegheny. 

Back during my junior year as an EE student, I  shared a modest basement  apartment with   two guys. One cooked  our daily dinner, one bought groceries ( we each paid 1/3rd) and I did the dishes. It was great and easy on the budget.  Norm owned a beautiful SX-71 receiver and was interested in  becoming a ham. I was envious of and listened on his   fabulous radio in exchange for  helping him study for  his novice, and  for administering it.  The next year we went our separate ways.  

Decades later I had totally forgotten about giving Norm his novice exam.  But not Norm.  Over the years we would hook up in the  PAQP. His call had changed but he remembered mine and would ask, "Is that you, Bob?"  And we'd   reminisce for a minute or two before  moving on with the contest.  It was fun.  The PAQP brought us together.  Norm by that time was living in NJ and then VA (retired) and I in Ohio.

One  day just a few years ago I posted on this board and also mentioned I was going up to the Kent State game.  Norm saw it and replied he too was going.  In fact  he had seasons tickets!  (So for years we were  both in Beaver Stadium  for many of the home games but never knew it.  After 50 some years  we could bump into each other -  tailgating or in the stadium - and not know it! ) 

Norm  proposed  we meet at the game, and did it with a certain sense of urgency.  I was  as usual staying with a friend in Millheim and then  going to the game with  his family for an all-day tailgate. Jim had a permanent parking place  so I gave it to Norm who said he would stop by.   Fast forward a couple of weeks to game day. Shortly after my non-ham friend and I  got to the parking area, and set up  their usual elaborate tail gate/feast, it began to rain.  Then pour.  And temps dropped to the low 50s. So we  took refuge inside his suv as the rain continued - big time. Our windows fogged up on the inside as we sat and talked waiting for the rain to stop. It never did.  Every now and then I saw a tall slender guy  slowly walk by the car, in raincoat and hat, rain pouring off him.  He never saw us  through the foggy window. But I didnt recognize him nor expected that Norm would show up, considering the foul wx. The third time he wandered by ( with loyal wife in tow) I became suspicious, jumped out into the downpour and asked..."Norm?"  His reply was "Bob?"  Thus began a nearly two hour   conversation in the pouring rain! 

Norm: ex-KN3ZGS-WA3BZA-EP2SN; & his then-call AI2C.  I met his wife. They met my PSU  buddy.  All just outside  the suv in the pouring rain.We were soaked, but Norm, a normally quiet guy, just kept talking. We covered 50 years of Life in two hours.  Then at the gentle prompting of his soaking wet xyl, we   agreed to meet at a future game, said goodbye, and went our separate ways. 

In retrospect, that heavy October rain  foretold something else.  I never saw Norm again. Never heard from him.  A year later I found his obit.  Yet something  that started decades earlier, continued off and on via ham radio and the PAQP,  had been  completed, that day in the rain.  Two old college friends reunited and, in a sense, said goodbye, without knowing it.   

So let me offer my thanks to  NARC, and the PAQP, in many different ways, and for  making the PAQP a great contest over the years.  

PS  I love perusing the commentary and all the data points/awards.  It would be a shame to see all that  go away. But I recognize the ageing  of our ham population and have seen its effect  here in  my own local club/s. Hope  another  club steps in to carry on the great legacy left by NARC! 

From emiske at comcast.net  Sun Jun  3 12:57:05 2018
From: emiske at comcast.net (EDWARD MISKE)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PaQSO] Portable op ham stuff
Message-ID: <113105902.131117.1528045025660@connect.xfinity.com>


From N3IGO at outlook.com  Sun Jun  3 13:03:06 2018
From: N3IGO at outlook.com (Jim Igoe)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 17:03:06 +0000
Subject: [PaQSO] PAQP kudos-NARC kudos-flashbacks
In-Reply-To: <20180603164312.QVVWU.24247.root@cdptpa-web07>
References: <20180603164312.QVVWU.24247.root@cdptpa-web07>
Message-ID: <SN1PR15MB044649AD36840EB1B8CB596FE0600@SN1PR15MB0446.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Good day to all!
I am very new to this contest, although I have been a ham since 2003. I participated this year just trying to give other hams points. I skipped the whole first day of the contest because I really didn't consider the possibility of placing in any way. Well.....when all was said and done, with a little help from my Elmer with scoring, I ended up winning my county.....my very first try.....I must say I am actually very  proud of my achievement. 
   I had a great time and hopefully helped lots of other amateurs gain points. I am proud of my certificate and it definitely has me primed for this years contest....I will probably work all of the hours allowed, but.....If I were looking to streamline this whole thing, I would not have plaques.....they are expensive, time consuming and all the Information has to go through too many hands and I'm sure there are often errors....clerical or otherwise. A suggestion from me would be to provide a TEMPLATE for the categories, which could easily be updated if needed for certificates. If you are deemed a winner of whatever category, you would receive the template, or be allowed to download the template, where you would insert your own name and call sign, and print it yourself. Plaques.....if you want one, feel free to go get one engraved. They are beautiful but costly and time consuming.
I know I am very new to this and some may think of my ideas as newbie stuff, but this is supposed to be fun, not a burden.
Thank you all for taking the time to read this email and I hope it finds everyone doing well


Regards,
Jim
N3IGO

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2018, at 12:43 PM, "w3hkk at roadrunner.com" <w3hkk at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> Being born and raised in the Keystone State(Philly), a PA ex-pat all of my  adult life, a PSU alum who has returned for many  football games,  former member of the  W3YA  Radio Club,  and holder of a very similar call to K3HKK,  the PAQP - and NARC   have always  held a special place in my heart. A few years ago I even targeted the Clean Sweep award, which now hangs on my wall, right next to  9BDXCC, a JY1 qsl, and other notable items collected over 62 years as W3HKK.  
> 
> Over the years, during regular trips to Happy Valley, simply announcing my call  on a local repeater usually brought a couple of replies/welcomes and comments from "the locals."  And come October I  always find time for the  PAQP with a special goal of  working as many counties as possible. But sometimes I'd just listen for familiar calls, voices, ormy former home counties of Philly, Lancaster, Centre and Allegheny. 
> 
> Back during my junior year as an EE student, I  shared a modest basement  apartment with   two guys. One cooked  our daily dinner, one bought groceries ( we each paid 1/3rd) and I did the dishes. It was great and easy on the budget.  Norm owned a beautiful SX-71 receiver and was interested in  becoming a ham. I was envious of and listened on his   fabulous radio in exchange for  helping him study for  his novice, and  for administering it.  The next year we went our separate ways.  
> 
> Decades later I had totally forgotten about giving Norm his novice exam.  But not Norm.  Over the years we would hook up in the  PAQP. His call had changed but he remembered mine and would ask, "Is that you, Bob?"  And we'd   reminisce for a minute or two before  moving on with the contest.  It was fun.  The PAQP brought us together.  Norm by that time was living in NJ and then VA (retired) and I in Ohio.
> 
> One  day just a few years ago I posted on this board and also mentioned I was going up to the Kent State game.  Norm saw it and replied he too was going.  In fact  he had seasons tickets!  (So for years we were  both in Beaver Stadium  for many of the home games but never knew it.  After 50 some years  we could bump into each other -  tailgating or in the stadium - and not know it! ) 
> 
> Norm  proposed  we meet at the game, and did it with a certain sense of urgency.  I was  as usual staying with a friend in Millheim and then  going to the game with  his family for an all-day tailgate. Jim had a permanent parking place  so I gave it to Norm who said he would stop by.   Fast forward a couple of weeks to game day. Shortly after my non-ham friend and I  got to the parking area, and set up  their usual elaborate tail gate/feast, it began to rain.  Then pour.  And temps dropped to the low 50s. So we  took refuge inside his suv as the rain continued - big time. Our windows fogged up on the inside as we sat and talked waiting for the rain to stop. It never did.  Every now and then I saw a tall slender guy  slowly walk by the car, in raincoat and hat, rain pouring off him.  He never saw us  through the foggy window. But I didnt recognize him nor expected that Norm would show up, considering the foul wx. The third time he wandered by ( with loyal wife in tow) I became
>  suspicious, jumped out into the downpour and asked..."Norm?"  His reply was "Bob?"  Thus began a nearly two hour   conversation in the pouring rain! 
> 
> Norm: ex-KN3ZGS-WA3BZA-EP2SN; & his then-call AI2C.  I met his wife. They met my PSU  buddy.  All just outside  the suv in the pouring rain.We were soaked, but Norm, a normally quiet guy, just kept talking. We covered 50 years of Life in two hours.  Then at the gentle prompting of his soaking wet xyl, we   agreed to meet at a future game, said goodbye, and went our separate ways. 
> 
> In retrospect, that heavy October rain  foretold something else.  I never saw Norm again. Never heard from him.  A year later I found his obit.  Yet something  that started decades earlier, continued off and on via ham radio and the PAQP,  had been  completed, that day in the rain.  Two old college friends reunited and, in a sense, said goodbye, without knowing it.   
> 
> So let me offer my thanks to  NARC, and the PAQP, in many different ways, and for  making the PAQP a great contest over the years.  
> 
> PS  I love perusing the commentary and all the data points/awards.  It would be a shame to see all that  go away. But I recognize the ageing  of our ham population and have seen its effect  here in  my own local club/s. Hope  another  club steps in to carry on the great legacy left by NARC! 
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From tombehler at gmail.com  Sun Jun  3 14:05:46 2018
From: tombehler at gmail.com (Tom Behler)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:05:46 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] PAQP kudos-NARC kudos-flashbacks
In-Reply-To: <20180603164312.QVVWU.24247.root@cdptpa-web07>
References: <20180603164312.QVVWU.24247.root@cdptpa-web07>
Message-ID: <005d01d3fb65$7f89c3c0$7e9d4b40$@gmail.com>

What a nice story!!

Even though all of our reasons for wanting to preserve the PAQP may be
different, there is a common theme that runs through them all, and, in my
view, it is to preserve the best QSO party in the country!!

I won't go into all the details, since I've posted them on the list before,
but I was first licensed back in 1969 with a two-year Novice ticket that I
obtained with the help of several members of the W3UU Harrisburg Amateur
Radio Club.

Since that time, life took me in many different directions, with my
ultimately ending up in Michigan, where I pursued my University teaching
career until my retirement in May of 2016.  I was re-licensed out here in
Michigan in the Summer of 1994, and upgraded to the Extra class license from
there.

In the early 2000's, I discovered the Pennsylvania QSO Party, and have tried
to participate every year since then.

After a number of unsuccessful attempts, I obtained a county sweep in
October of 2015, and the plaque hangs prominently on one of my shack walls.
In fact, I remember working the last county I needed for the sweep--namely,
Northumberland.  Whoever gave me that county, I'm thankful to you to this
day!!

It would be a true shame to see the PAQP go by the wayside, and I sincerely
hope that another club can pick it up in some form from here.  In the
meantime, I want to thank Mike (N3LI), and the Nittany ARC for having
sponsored the greatest and most friendly State QSO Party out there!!

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ, Grandville, MI



-----Original Message-----
From: paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of w3hkk at roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 12:43 PM
To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [PaQSO] PAQP kudos-NARC kudos-flashbacks

Being born and raised in the Keystone State(Philly), a PA ex-pat all of my
adult life, a PSU alum who has returned for many  football games,  former
member of the  W3YA  Radio Club,  and holder of a very similar call to
K3HKK,  the PAQP - and NARC   have always  held a special place in my heart.
A few years ago I even targeted the Clean Sweep award, which now hangs on my
wall, right next to  9BDXCC, a JY1 qsl, and other notable items collected
over 62 years as W3HKK.  

Over the years, during regular trips to Happy Valley, simply announcing my
call  on a local repeater usually brought a couple of replies/welcomes and
comments from "the locals."  And come October I  always find time for the
PAQP with a special goal of  working as many counties as possible. But
sometimes I'd just listen for familiar calls, voices, ormy former home
counties of Philly, Lancaster, Centre and Allegheny. 

Back during my junior year as an EE student, I  shared a modest basement
apartment with   two guys. One cooked  our daily dinner, one bought
groceries ( we each paid 1/3rd) and I did the dishes. It was great and easy
on the budget.  Norm owned a beautiful SX-71 receiver and was interested in
becoming a ham. I was envious of and listened on his   fabulous radio in
exchange for  helping him study for  his novice, and  for administering it.
The next year we went our separate ways.  

Decades later I had totally forgotten about giving Norm his novice exam.
But not Norm.  Over the years we would hook up in the  PAQP. His call had
changed but he remembered mine and would ask, "Is that you, Bob?"  And we'd
reminisce for a minute or two before  moving on with the contest.  It was
fun.  The PAQP brought us together.  Norm by that time was living in NJ and
then VA (retired) and I in Ohio.

One  day just a few years ago I posted on this board and also mentioned I
was going up to the Kent State game.  Norm saw it and replied he too was
going.  In fact  he had seasons tickets!  (So for years we were  both in
Beaver Stadium  for many of the home games but never knew it.  After 50 some
years  we could bump into each other -  tailgating or in the stadium - and
not know it! ) 

Norm  proposed  we meet at the game, and did it with a certain sense of
urgency.  I was  as usual staying with a friend in Millheim and then  going
to the game with  his family for an all-day tailgate. Jim had a permanent
parking place  so I gave it to Norm who said he would stop by.   Fast
forward a couple of weeks to game day. Shortly after my non-ham friend and I
got to the parking area, and set up  their usual elaborate tail gate/feast,
it began to rain.  Then pour.  And temps dropped to the low 50s. So we  took
refuge inside his suv as the rain continued - big time. Our windows fogged
up on the inside as we sat and talked waiting for the rain to stop. It never
did.  Every now and then I saw a tall slender guy  slowly walk by the car,
in raincoat and hat, rain pouring off him.  He never saw us  through the
foggy window. But I didnt recognize him nor expected that Norm would show
up, considering the foul wx. The third time he wandered by ( with loyal wife
in tow) I became
  suspicious, jumped out into the downpour and asked..."Norm?"  His reply
was "Bob?"  Thus began a nearly two hour   conversation in the pouring rain!


Norm: ex-KN3ZGS-WA3BZA-EP2SN; & his then-call AI2C.  I met his wife. They
met my PSU  buddy.  All just outside  the suv in the pouring rain.We were
soaked, but Norm, a normally quiet guy, just kept talking. We covered 50
years of Life in two hours.  Then at the gentle prompting of his soaking wet
xyl, we   agreed to meet at a future game, said goodbye, and went our
separate ways. 

In retrospect, that heavy October rain  foretold something else.  I never
saw Norm again. Never heard from him.  A year later I found his obit.  Yet
something  that started decades earlier, continued off and on via ham radio
and the PAQP,  had been  completed, that day in the rain.  Two old college
friends reunited and, in a sense, said goodbye, without knowing it.   

So let me offer my thanks to  NARC, and the PAQP, in many different ways,
and for  making the PAQP a great contest over the years.  

PS  I love perusing the commentary and all the data points/awards.  It would
be a shame to see all that  go away. But I recognize the ageing  of our ham
population and have seen its effect  here in  my own local club/s. Hope
another  club steps in to carry on the great legacy left by NARC! 
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From zelna.alz at gmail.com  Sun Jun  3 14:13:50 2018
From: zelna.alz at gmail.com (Al Z)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:13:50 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
In-Reply-To: <CAHQrxhKJmWNGNqL_JQgTqEZBSBia8ZR2_9cVxz+VT7Gy5eT0Mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <888196392.1443606.1527965414361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<888196392.1443606.1527965414361@mail.yahoo.com>
	<163c61f6ddf-c94-1d4b6@webjas-vab125.srv.aolmail.net>
	<CAHQrxhKJmWNGNqL_JQgTqEZBSBia8ZR2_9cVxz+VT7Gy5eT0Mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHCQkqHDx35h-82KM=GmKooGAAZ-WBbrtu2m-9t5-Wh_uSNDpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Scott KA3QLF, Joe N3XLS, and I represent the core of The KQX Group.  We
have spent plenty of October weekends at my modest QTH in WYO and welcomed
other area Hams to participate while mentoring their contesting skills.  We
proceeded to break MM records, then broke those records again, and even set
highest submitted score in some PQPs.  Yes, there are plenty of plaques and
paper, for which we are proud to have achieved.  I'm not mentioning this in
any way as a brag.  We used each contest as a way to learn more, sharpen
skills, and apply forward.

We also learned by observation that a steady decline in /M and /R
participation was being realized annually.  These Hams are the lifeblood of
PQP, and if you swept before, you should agree wholeheartedly.  So with
nothing more to gain from our usual, the three of us decided to change up
in 2017 after seeing announced plans.  We weighed the possibility of a
multi-county multi-op Rover in WPA and EPA.  Rover was new to us as a
whole, let alone our ambitious plans.  So we gathered and built easy up
antennas and used nothing more than Google Maps to plan the sites, back up
sites, routes and timing.

We headed out across the state early that October Sat morning in my GMC
truck, with gear, rented generator, and good WX forecasted.  We activated
WAR, FOR, ELK, and CRN mostly without cell service for self-spotting.  That
night, on the way home around midnight, and completely exhausted from the
unforeseen fatigue of so many setups and teardowns, I almost ended our Ham
careers by touching a guard rail on PA118 in LUZ.  But with everyone being
unharmed, and minimal truck damage, I decided my fault should not detract
from our adventure, and continued Sunday morning. We activated WYO, LAC,
WAY and SUS.

I believe we set the highest /R submission, and won't get Plaque... No /R
/MM sponsor.  So what!  We learned a bunch... especially about that whole
driving thing... and left with even more respect for those that take to the
road annually.

So if the next group wants to do something proactive, Plaque... No
plaque... Certificates only... Emailed, mailed... whatever.  Think about
the lifeblood lost in PQP ... Please!

Al, N3KAE

On Jun 3, 2018 12:21 PM, "Dave Edmonds" <dave at pkministrywebs.com> wrote:

If no awards/certificates are awarded, then does the new club need to be
burdened by the time-consuming scoring process?

Dave WN4AFP
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:49 AM K3YD via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:


>
>  I've never won a plaque and doubt if I have ever won a certificate in
> PAQP.  The only certificates which I have kept are WAS, WAC.  I have
worked
> over 200 countries (all with wire), but have never filed for DXCC.  For
me,
> it is the "Fun of the chase".
>
>
> So if we can have the fun of PAQP without burdening a sponsoring club
> without the hassle of plaques and certificates, I say, "Let's do it"
>
>
> 73 de k3yd
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> To: paqso <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2018 2:51 pm
> Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
>
> As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party has become a massive amount of
> year long work.I've pondering what the major amount of work is.I believe
> it's the preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me outWould
> hams operate the contest if there were no plaques and certificates this
> year ?I for one would.
> Most of us are up in age and have won our share of contests in the
> past.For myself, I enjoy the friendly competition and talking to old
> friends.Please your thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS
> Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
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From chip at meceweb.com  Sun Jun  3 14:43:38 2018
From: chip at meceweb.com (Chip Morgan)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:43:38 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] PA QSO Party Future
Message-ID: <042ef06e-e23f-cf49-bade-63711215e86b@meceweb.com>

It is not appropriate for me to release any details at this time, but 
rest assured the 2018 PA QSO Party is happening as scheduled and will 
continue into the future.

More info will be forthcoming, but please, no questions at this time - I 
am not able to answer them.? Official announcements will provide the 
details soon.

73,

Chip N3IW


From mkempisty at verizon.net  Sun Jun  3 16:12:29 2018
From: mkempisty at verizon.net (Mark Kempisty)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 20:12:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [PaQSO] PA QSO Party Future
In-Reply-To: <042ef06e-e23f-cf49-bade-63711215e86b@meceweb.com>
References: <042ef06e-e23f-cf49-bade-63711215e86b@meceweb.com>
Message-ID: <1215858622.1682877.1528056749662@mail.yahoo.com>

A big THANK YOU in advance.?

Take care,
Mark AA3K 
 
  On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Chip Morgan<chip at meceweb.com> wrote:   It is not appropriate for me to release any details at this time, but 
rest assured the 2018 PA QSO Party is happening as scheduled and will 
continue into the future.

More info will be forthcoming, but please, no questions at this time - I 
am not able to answer them.? Official announcements will provide the 
details soon.

73,

Chip N3IW

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From k3pp at k3pp.com  Mon Jun  4 09:25:43 2018
From: k3pp at k3pp.com (Glenn O'Donnell, K3PP)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 09:25:43 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] PA QSO Party Future
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I agree with AA3K! PA QSO Party is my favorite contest! Long live PAQP and those who make it happen! 

VY 73 de Glenn K3PP 

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... um, nah, just an iPhone! Sorry!

> On Jun 3, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Mark Kempisty <mkempisty at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> A big THANK YOU in advance. 
> 
> Take care,
> Mark AA3K 
> 
>  On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Chip Morgan<chip at meceweb.com> wrote:   It is not appropriate for me to release any details at this time, but 
> rest assured the 2018 PA QSO Party is happening as scheduled and will 
> continue into the future.
> 
> More info will be forthcoming, but please, no questions at this time - I 
> am not able to answer them.  Official announcements will provide the 
> details soon.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Chip N3IW
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From n3cr at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  4 09:48:11 2018
From: n3cr at yahoo.com (Larry Lilly)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 09:48:11 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
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Greetings. The plaques arer nice but i would continue just on the amount of participation and number of counties active.  The work makes it the popular test it is.  73s n3cr. Larry
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> On Jun 3b2, 2018, at 5:30 PM, uMatthew Steger <n3ntj at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> A
> No needr for plaques, T-shirts, or mugs as far as I am concerned.  Basic county winner certificates are nice, though; gives me something to aim for.  I?ve been doing the QSO Party for nearly 25 years and look forward to it every year.
> 
> 73
> Matt
> N3NTJ
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello PAQP'ers,
>> 
>> I've participated in the PAQP for the last 3-4 years and I finally finished
>> top of a category. I'm looking forward to receiving an award for my efforts
>> in the 2017 PAQP.
>> 
>> PAQP is one of the top QPs on the planet. It's log submission numbers have
>> been strong for many years thanks to the fine job that Mike has done.
>> 
>> I don't really know about the problems facing
>> 
>> Herb raised the question about plaques/awards. Winning a contest award from
>> one of the most active QPs is something of value to the competitive player,
>> whether in state or out of state. We all have our reasons for participating
>> in the PAQP. I don't have ties to PA, but I've been there several times and
>> enjoyed my visits. For the OOS guys, the awards program does have an impact
>> on QP participation. What if WPX decided to stop offering awards to their
>> category winners... would participation increase, stay the same or decline?
>> I think that I know the answer.
>> 
>> We can't assume that 'most of us have won awards etc." Not everyone who
>> plays in the PAQP has won a PAQP award.
>> 
>> My personal goal is to achieve a category win in every QSO Party on the
>> planet. So far my map is filling up nicely, with 15 or so 1st place wins. I
>> would really like it if every state QP had a plaque with the outline of the
>> state, so that I could put all of them in the spot on the wall map. I'm
>> dreaming... Frankly, I love the unique "edible" awards that many QPs
>> provide.. I've received beef jerky, rice from Minnesota, syrup from Vermont
>> etc. Y'all could give away something made of steel/iron, like a tower or
>> something. The Carolina Weekend gives away BBQ dinners and ham store gift
>> certificate.
>> 
>> As a state QP admin and one who works every QP on the air, I would be glad
>> to share some of the issues that we faced in the re-tooling of the SCQP
>> several years ago. We created a balanced awards program. Basically we
>> offered the same power/mode category awards to in state and out of state
>> stations, except for mobile/rover awards. Scale back on awards, but keep
>> them balanced. For example.. instead of having a CW only category, you
>> could go with Mixed with three power options. There are many ways to do it,
>> Hello PAQP'ers,
>> 
>> I've participated in the PAQP for the last 3-4 years and I finally finished
>> top of a category. I'm looking forward to receiving an award for my efforts
>> in the 2017 PAQP.
>> 
>> PAQP is one of the top QPs on the planet. It's log submission numbers have
>> been strong for many years thanks to the fine job that Mike has done.
>> 
>> I don't really know about the problems facing
>> 
>> Herb raised the question about plaques/awards. Winning a contest award from
>> one of the most active QPs is something of value to the competitive player,
>> whether in state or out of state. We all have our reasons for participating
>> in the PAQP. I don't have ties to PA, but I've been there several times and
>> enjoyed my visits. For the OOS guys, the awards program does have an impact
>> on QP participation. What if WPX decided to stop offering awards to their
>> category winners... would participation increase, stay the same or decline?
>> I think that I know the answer.
>> 
>> We can't assume that 'most of us have won awards etc." Not everyone who
>> plays in the PAQP has won a PAQP award.
>> 
>> My personal goal is to achieve a category win in every QSO Party on the
>> planet. So far my map is filling up nicely, with 15 or so 1st place wins. I
>> would really like it if every state QP had a plaque with the outline of the
>> state, so that I could put all of them in the spot on the wall map. I'm
>> dreaming... Frankly, I love the unique "edible" awards that many QPs
>> provide.. I've received beef jerky, rice from Minnesota, syrup from Vermont
>> etc. Y'all could give away something made of steel/iron, like a tower or
>> something. The Carolina Weekend gives away BBQ dinners and ham store gift
>> certificate.
>> 
>> As a state QP admin and one who works every QP on the air, I would be glad
>> to share some of the issues that we faced in the re-tooling of the SCQP
>> several years ago. We created a balanced awards program. Basically we
>> offered the same power/mode category awards to in state and out of state
>> stations, except for mobile/rover awards. Scale back on awards, but keep
>> them balanced. For example.. instead of having a CW only category, you
>> could go with Mixed with three power options. There are many ways to do it,
>> but please make those decisions wisely.  One QP out there offers 1 plaque
>> to OOS and many to the in-state stations. I see little reason to every
>> participate in that one.
>> 
>> I hope that the PAQP continues to be one of the best QPs on the planet. I
>> will be proud to display my PAQP award, when I receive it.
>> 
>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
>> SCQP Team Leader
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:24 PM, David Stout via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Herb
>>> 
>>> I believe the reason for all the plaques, specifically out of state
>>> plaques, is to increase interest for out of state participants. Which I
>>> think everyone would agree is not only true but a lovely idea. However, I
>>> agree with you. The plaques add a lot of extra work. I think I speak for
>>> everyone when I say we want the contest to continue even if it means giving
>>> up awards. At best, I would be quite satisfied if the number of plaque
>>> categories were reduced. At worst, I would carry on without them at all.
>>> 
>>> There is no doubt that there are many individuals and small groups that
>>> simply can't take over. I believe it's going to take a reasonably sized
>>> club to take it. It pains me that our small team doesn't have the resources
>>> to do it. But I would if I could and I think many of you feel the same way.
>>> I can only hope that some club or group picks it up and that group would
>>> certainly have my blessing if they streamlined the work load.
>>> 
>>> I need not tell anyone on this reflector that the PA QP is one the most
>>> participated QSO Parties in the nation. I, for one, will never forget all
>>> the hard work that Mike and the guys put into it over the years. It would
>>> be a shame for it to end now after all this effort.
>>> 
>>> My fingers are crossed.
>>> Dave
>>> KY3W
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Sat, 6/2/18, Herb Krumich via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject: [PaQSO] QSO Party
>>> To: "paqso at mailman.qth.net" <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Date: Saturday, June 2, 2018, 2:50 PM
>>> 
>>> As Mike has communicated, the PA QSO Party
>>> has become a massive amount of year long work.I've pondering
>>> what the major amount of work is.I believe it's the
>>> preparation of awards and the forwarding of them.Here me
>>> outWould hams operate the contest if there were no plaques
>>> and certificates this year ?I for one would.
>>> Most of us are up in age and have won
>>> our share of contests in the past.For myself, I enjoy the
>>> friendly competition and talking to old friends.Please your
>>> thoughts"Screw the awards"73Herb K2LNS
>>> Usually use K3 Yellow Traffic Light
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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From n3xudfm19 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  4 17:58:40 2018
From: n3xudfm19 at gmail.com (David All)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:58:40 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Long live PAQP
Message-ID: <CAF0Gno-HKUpMNQhXhLBVKLoLHfste9eyPaheSkXs5mCFz4iPUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to the Nitney club for there long years of dedication to this
great event. I can not fathom what is involved pre let alone the huge
effort post party. So again hats off.

My $.02 is we don?t pay an entry fee, resulting in some pot of $$$ from
which plaques could be purchased from. Plaques are nice and great but they
carry a huge expense. Would it be possible to offer them for purchase if
the winners so decide???  I know sometimes one and two items can cost way
more than a bulk order. Just a suggestion not sure if it?s feasible.

From mathenyr at marietta.edu  Wed Jun  6 12:01:34 2018
From: mathenyr at marietta.edu (Ralph Matheny)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 16:01:34 +0000
Subject: [PaQSO] PAQP future
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As an out of state participant I've kept quiet but feel I should

drop in a few thoughts re PAQP, plaques, etc.


First.....the people who have managed the party for the

last several years have done a great job.  Everyone I have had

contact with in PAQP has been top flight.  Thus these comments

are NOT criticisms of how things have been, but suggestions for

how to move to the future.


Now...Plaques:  I think they add to the dimensions of the party

BUT they should be limited in number.  They should be given in

fairly broad categories.  For example, I don't think there should

be separate plaques for rover high-power, low power, etc. when

there are so few rovers in the game.  Plaques should be sponsored

and paid for in advance of posting contest rules.  Certificates are

good for encouraging beginners but I have no wall space for them.


Management:   The party should be administered by a club which

is generally devoted to contesting.  Unless PA clubs are different from

clubs here there are not many members with deep interest in such

a thing as PAQP.   The PAQP should be managed by a SMALL committee

with "all decisions are final" power.  I do  not know if there is such a

group available.


Scoring:  PAQP should invest in whatever software and skills needed

to make the operation of the party as simple as possible.  This is the

age of the computer and, I as the last man to give in, accept the value

of computer robot scoring systems.  ALL THOSE WHO HAVE STATED

support for PAQP....be prepared to donate to a fund to save the party.

I am willing to do that.  Good software costs money.


A plan of action...if not already in process...is needed.  Perhaps ARRL

contest manager might be able to help or perhaps ideas from other

successful parties might be of value.


My two cents worth....



de K8RYU





From goody.k3ng at gmail.com  Thu Jun  7 20:13:34 2018
From: goody.k3ng at gmail.com (Goody K3NG)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 20:13:34 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Announcement
Message-ID: <CAK2SEysAq=fKJYBSV9_gb8mY=G=RrNan1K0ed+0DzNTkcV920g@mail.gmail.com>

We are pleased to announce that the Pennsylvania QSO Party has a new home.
The PA QSO Party Association (PA QSO PA) has been selected by Nittany ARC
to continue the tradition of The Friendliest QSO Party.


We would like to thank the Nittany ARC for being the sponsor of The
Pennsylvania QSO Party for the past 52 years, and especially with Mike,
N3LI, as the Chairman for the past 13 years. The PA QSO Party Association
is made up of participants of the Party who have a vision to carry the
Party into the future and we are grateful to have been selected as the
organization to which the torch is being passed. While the PA QSO PA is
still firming things up, be assured that the event will still be occurring
each year, including 2018, on the second full weekend of October, just as
it always has been with the same starting and finishing times. Additional
organizational details of both the PA QSO PA and the Party will be
forthcoming shortly. Please check our new and quickly changing website at
http://paqso.org (or http://www.paqso.org) for Party information. Thank you
for your patience during this transition.


73,


- PA QSO Party Association

From mkempisty at verizon.net  Thu Jun  7 20:18:50 2018
From: mkempisty at verizon.net (Mark Kempisty)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 00:18:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [PaQSO] Announcement
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Three cheers!

Take care,
Mark  AA3K?
 
  On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Goody K3NG<goody.k3ng at gmail.com> wrote:   We are pleased to announce that the Pennsylvania QSO Party has a new home.
The PA QSO Party Association (PA QSO PA) has been selected by Nittany ARC
to continue the tradition of The Friendliest QSO Party.


We would like to thank the Nittany ARC for being the sponsor of The
Pennsylvania QSO Party for the past 52 years, and especially with Mike,
N3LI, as the Chairman for the past 13 years. The PA QSO Party Association
is made up of participants of the Party who have a vision to carry the
Party into the future and we are grateful to have been selected as the
organization to which the torch is being passed. While the PA QSO PA is
still firming things up, be assured that the event will still be occurring
each year, including 2018, on the second full weekend of October, just as
it always has been with the same starting and finishing times. Additional
organizational details of both the PA QSO PA and the Party will be
forthcoming shortly. Please check our new and quickly changing website at
http://paqso.org (or http://www.paqso.org) for Party information. Thank you
for your patience during this transition.


73,


- PA QSO Party Association
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From mjcn3li at gmail.com  Tue Jun 19 22:53:59 2018
From: mjcn3li at gmail.com (Michael Coslo)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:53:59 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Plaques
Message-ID: <95A9891C-E13F-421E-8207-1F96A782244A@gmail.com>

The plaques are finally finished. I will be picking them up tomorrow, and will get them mailed out ASAP, in Between Field Day work.

- 73 Mike N3LI -

From mjcn3li at gmail.com  Thu Jun 21 11:43:03 2018
From: mjcn3li at gmail.com (Michael Coslo)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:43:03 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Plaques
Message-ID: <9CAA1E96-E420-471A-A116-998EEA75AD2E@gmail.com>

The plaques were mailed out today.

From aa3b.bud at gmail.com  Thu Jun 21 14:39:47 2018
From: aa3b.bud at gmail.com (Bud Trench)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 14:39:47 -0400
Subject: [PaQSO] Plaques
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Mike,

Thanks for all your efforts!  I really appreciate everything you have done
in support of the Pa QSO Party.  Enjoy your new found free time!

73,

Bud AA3B

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:43 AM Michael Coslo <mjcn3li at gmail.com> wrote:

> The plaques were mailed out today.
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