[PaQSO] Another question

Dave Edmonds dave at pkministrywebs.com
Mon Nov 30 22:28:23 EST 2015


HI Blair, Mike and all the PAQPers...

I created and implemented a new summary sheet - log submission system that
worked very well..We changed our rules and scoring etc for the 2015 SCQP,
so I knew that it was going to be challenging... The summary sheet was a
MUST because I knew that we would have log formatting and scoring issues...
and we did... I implemented the summary sheet because I wanted to have a
solid back-up in case we experienced sw problems with scoring, which I had
no clue at the time exactly how that was going to be handled.

You can visit http://scqso.com/log-submission/ to see how it works.

At then end of the contest, I had all the logs and summary sheet data in
ONE Excel spreadsheet... The my lifesaver KJ4IZW walked me through how to
use his software. We scored the logs and manually reviewed all logs and
completed this process in 5 weeks.

If the scoring sw would not have been available or didn't work as designed,
we would have been able to score the logs thanks to the Summary Form data..
Doing it manually with only Cabrillo log files would have been a nightmare.

All the best!

Dave WN4AFP



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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:04 PM, K3YD via PaQSO <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

> Perhaps I'm too much of a "numbers wonk", but I cannot imagine making even
> a casual effort in a contest without asking "How did I do?"  That's what a
> summary sheet tells me.
>
> As for the hard working Log Scorers and Results Compilers, why wouldn't we
> give them a little information to organize contest results?  Again . . . a
> Summary Sheet serves that function.
>
> Does IRS allow you to file your taxes without including a Form 1040?  Does
> your employer provide reimbursement for business trip expenses without an
> expense summary?  Does your radio club treasurer just say "We've got some
> money in the bank" or does she provide an income/expense report?  All of
> these are "Summary Sheets".
>
> Mike, I say hold your position.  Anyone who doesn't submit a Summary Sheet
> should be listed as only providing a Check Log, and not as a competitor.
> If it is too much bother to spend 30 seconds completing a summary sheet
> with logging software, why waste time participating?
>
> 73,  Blair  K3YD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Coslo <mjcn3li at gmail.com>
> To: paqso <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 10, 2015 12:14 am
> Subject: [PaQSO] Another question
>
> Well, as expected, some folks are not happy with my summary sheet
> decision. Private email is 100 percent against it. So here’s a question I’d
> like to float. If submitting a summary is too difficult, would people
> prefer is I did away with summaries altogether, and go to something like
> the KJ4IZW contest scorer?It’s sort of a radical change, but I’ve been
> backed into a corner with few options.But seriously, I catch so much flak
> about the summary sheets, and bear in mind that you don’t have to use the
> ones I provide, but in something like N1MM logger, which produces a fine
> summary you click on File/Export/Print Summary to File, and you’re done.Its
> kind of foreign to me, because that’s only one click away from not even
> turning in a log, but the summaries not received and the universally
> negative comments I’ve gotten indicates that easy or not, summary sheets
> are a task too far.It would be quick and easy for you, and myself - that’s
> the upside. The downside is that the party would change radically. How
> about some conversation? Keep it civil.- Mike -
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