[PaQSO] Question about Logging with N1MM

Mark Kempisty mkempisty at verizon.net
Mon Oct 8 14:25:53 EDT 2012


The easiest thing to do is keep a notepad and pen next to you when operating and jot down the extra counties along with your QSO number and fix the cabrillo and county mults off line. 

While county line stations are fun to work, they can be a challenge to log.

Take care,
Mark
AA3K

Hank Greeb <n8xx at arrl.org> wrote:

>John:
>
>So, you're saying that the log checking team DOESN'T check serial 
>numbers for county line contacts on the receiver's end? If my cabrillo 
>file lists 2 consecutive numbers when I record two Q's from a county 
>line station, but I've only sent 1 number, and I don't change the 
>cabrillo file, the scoring team won't penalize either my entry or the 
>entry of the person operating on a county line?  If so, perhaps that 
>should be spelled out in the rules, because had I not asked, I'd sure 
>have gone to a lot of unnecessary work, either during the contest, 
>changing the numbers in "real time", or afterward in the cabrillo file.
>
>I've been "reamed" by the scoring team of another State QSO Party, so 
>perhaps I'm paranoid.
>
>72/73 de n8xx Hg
>
>On 10/8/2012 9:51 AM, John Bednar wrote:
>> Hank,
>> There is no need to edit the serial number of the additional county line QSO(s).
>> Serial numbers can be skipped or out of order in your log. Out of order logged serial numbers occur when one radio (or VFO) reserves a serial number but a station is logged later.
>>
>> N1MM Logger does not barf when you try to log an invalid county or section. Let's be fair. It error checks your entry and informs you that you are attempting to log an invalid exchange. If you force log an invalid exchange, the multiplier count and score will be incorrect.
>>
>> The proper proceedure is to log a QSO for each county. Don't make the log checking any harder for Mike.
>>
>> Log the first QSO, press spacebar, change the county, press Enter.
>>   
>> John, K3CT
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/12, Hank Greeb wrote:
>>
>> >From the Rules of the PaQP "Stations on county line give out 1 serial
>> number per contact plus multiple county multipliers."
>>
>> That would seem to me that I (outside the state) log the report, N1MM
>> will put two of my serial numbers into the log, BUT the op on the county
>> line only receives one of my numbers. I'd then have to go back,
>> immediately, and edit MY number so the same number appears in two
>> consecutive lines of my log. Doing such editing is quite time
>> consuming, at least with a LID like me doing the operating. :)
>>
>> Question - is this the proper procedure? N1MM won't take
>> County1/County2 in the {EXCH} window, it barfs. Anyone have a
>> workaround? Or is there a way to force an entry in N1MM with what it
>> thinks is incorrect information? If so, how does one "mark" the contact
>> for after the fact editing?
>>
>> Or, is it okay to log with two consecutive numbers in the N1MM log, make
>> a note to change the cabrillo file after it is made, and essentially
>> "skip" one number for each of the county line stations worked?
>>
>> Or, is there a logging programme which provides a way to do this
>> automagically? I'm sure that this situation has come up for others in
>> past years. I guess I was (un)lucky enough to have never worked a
>> county line station in previous PA QSO Parties.
>>
>> I'm glad I thought of this prior to next week!
>>
>> 72/73 de n8xx Hg
>> QRP >99.44% of the time
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