FW: [PaQSO] Request

Tue Oct 30 17:01:17 EST 2007

Well the big guns yelling can be heard by all. The QRP  and smaller guys really makes points when all the big guns have been logged and others need new contacts. The comment the big guns have to pull the weak signal out taking times is multiplied for the QRP signal because he has to call many more times to be heard and has the disadvantage when responding to a call. That is the reason Field days give the bonus to the QRP station. The big guns will not take the time to work a weak QRP until they are hurting for QSOs per minute.

Boy this CONTEST sounds like a dog eat dog element instead of the gentleman's contest that I use to participate in.

John KO4A

> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:49:41 -0700> From: wgbk8syh at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [PaQSO] Request> To: wgoodman at goodmancpa.biz; emiske at comcast.net; paqso at mailman.qth.net> CC: > > Amen brother.> > 73 to all> > Bill/K8SYH> --- "William N. Goodman, CPA"> <wgoodman at goodmancpa.biz> wrote:> > > I have not been active on HF or in the PA QSO Party> > for several years. I> > have other activities and responsibilities which> > took me away. I hope to> > return some day in the future. However, I still> > read the reflector. I> > used to earn top scores single op or multi op from> > Northampton County, as> > K3ANS or W3FRC.> > > > I believe the QRP multiplier should go to the> > receiving station, not the> > QRP station! The receiver strains to pick out the> > weak station from the> > noise level or from the QRM. The QRP station has> > the easy job. A QRP> > station requires less mechanical work and electronic> > skills to manage than> > does a QRO station. If desired, place the QRP> > stations in a separate class,> > but do not multiply a QRP score by 2! I lost> > winning single op class for> > the PA QSO party a few years ago by that 2 X factor> > given to a QRP station> > in Washington County, PA. I had the highest raw> > score with out the> > massaging of the points. The PA QSO Party should be> > a capitalistic contest,> > not enforced socialism. Otherwise give plaques to> > all who turn on their> > radios, whether they make one or 1600 QSOs!> > > > One year I worked for at least 15 minutes to pull> > out a weak station on 75> > SSB in the CQ WW Phone or ARRL DX Phone contest. I> > was listening around> > 3,670 kcs. and transmitting around 3,800 kcs. I> > hoped it was a new> > multiplier. I asked for many repeats, which were> > covered by QSB, QRN, QRM,> > absorption, signal fatigue, and noise floor. I told> > other louder stations> > to stand by. I have outstanding receiving and> > transmitting antennas on 75> > meters aimed to Europe, so if I could not hear him,> > no one else could.> > Eventually I completed the QSO with an English> > station, G----. A few weeks> > later he mailed me a very appreciative letter> > thanking me for my> > perseverance. He was running 10 watts to a folded,> > shortened, compromised> > dipole on 75 meters, in the basement of his high> > rise apartment house in the> > middle of a large English city. I should have> > gotten a bonus 100 X point> > for that one. If I were efficient and mean, I would> > have blown him off and> > moved on to more QSOs, but I was curious who he was.> > This has happened many> > times. We call CQ and hear many stations in the> > mud, rise and fall> > together. Pulling them out and separating them is a> > challenge. At least> > they could help by using adequate antennas and more> > power. I know they are> > limited in their resources, but give us the bonus> > points. It was a thrill> > for the European modest stations to work a loud USA> > station, but at what a> > price. Of course, QSLs came soon later. > > > > In summary, I like QRP operators, as long as they do> > not slow me down. This> > is a contest, not a social service. Occasionally,> > the loudest stations on> > 10 and 15 meters are mobiles 1,000 miles away. > > > > > > William N. Goodman, CPA (K3ANS)> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> > [mailto:paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net]> > On Behalf Of emiske at comcast.net> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:26 PM> > To: Pa QSO Party Reflector> > Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Request> > > > Mike, > > > > If you're listening, I'm talking........> > > > DEATH TO THE QRP MULTIPLIER!!!!!!!> > > > What's the purpose? To equalize QRP scores to QRO> > scores? If so, why not> > give a mult of 1.3 or something like that to the> > medium power stations to> > equalize their scores to QRO scores? > > > > But why "equalize" any scores? Are not QRP stations> > in competition with QRP> > stations? QRO's vs QRO's? Medium vs. medium?> > > > I understand that when it comes to the Portable,> > Rover, CW only, (others?)> > they are not divided into QRP, Medium and QRO. But> > there are just not enough> > entries in these categories/divisions to justify> > that.> > > > If it is used at all, it should only be AFTER> > individual scores have been> > calculated so as to help out club scores where the> > club might have> > one/several/many members operating QRP. But for> > individual scores, it is not> > necessary. QRP should compete against QRP, medium> > power vs medium power and> > QRO vs QRO. > > > > Ed/WA3SES> > -------------- Original message --------------> > From: Michael Coslo <mjc5 at psu.edu> > > > > > > > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Goody K3NG wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings> > > > > > > > I figure this would be a good time to make a> > suggestion or request > > > > as we have almost a year to chew on it, but> > could we create a Multi- > > > > multi QRP category? This would be separate from> > the existing multi- > > > > multi scores and not compete with them, shatter> > old records, > > > > drastically change the personality of the Party,> > or hurt cute furry > > > > kittens. :-)> > > > > > I'm not opposed to such a thing. It seems pretty> > interesting. Let's > > > get some activity on the subject, and see what> > transpires...> > > > > > My thoughts are how many people are likely to> > participate in this > > > manner? (note that low numbers are not a reason to> > dismiss the idea)> > > > > > Impacts in general? > > > > > > I'll be in listening mode here, so let's have at> > it! > > > > > > -73 de Mike KB3EIA -> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > PaQSO mailing list> > > PaQSO at mailman.qth.net> > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso> > _______________________________________________> > PaQSO mailing list> > PaQSO at mailman.qth.net> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso> > > > _______________________________________________> > PaQSO mailing list> > PaQSO at mailman.qth.net> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso> > > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________> PaQSO mailing list> PaQSO at mailman.qth.net> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/paqso