[PaQSO] RTTY Interference

[n3xls at juno.com]

I agree with Al, I don't believe there will be any problems running digital and CW if the following below is followed. I do believe PSK and RTTY should count as the same mode and not two diffrent modes. The two point per contact is standard in ever other mixed mode contest there is a skill and technical competence required to running digital modes, just like CW. 

However, i have a suggestion maybe we can use a honnor system and give 3 points to "true" CW operators that copy by ear and and give 1.5 points to those that use computer aided CW. This can be easily done by adding a check mark on the summary sheet. 

There is one thing left out with this whole RTTY/PSK modes there should be a prime activity hour(s) for RTTY and PSK this way we can all meet on the PSK frequency or RTTY specturm at the same time. i would suggest maybe after 12pm sunday afternoon. To use MURGAS's coined term for this, it would be a RTTY/PSK feeding frenzy.  

73's


-- "Al Zelna" <mr.mri at epix.net> wrote:
I sent it in December and again in January with no takers.  So here it is
for the third time.  An excerpt from Mike's email shows the suggested HF PSK
frequencies. Someone please scrutinize this information and explain WHY
using PSK as a marker is a bad idea to separate CW and RTTY.



1838.15
3580.15
7035.15 and 7080.15
14070.15
21080.15 and 21070.15
28120.15

1.)      I have looked over the three major domestic RTTY contest rules
(ARRL RTTY RU, CQ WW WPX RTTY, CQ WW DX RTTY).  None of them condones 160m
operation.  So throw out 160m.

2.)      Throw out the PSK DX window on 7035, which will be unusable in PA
anyway.

3.)      I consider the 15m listing close enough to be the same.

 

Here is what remains:

3580.15
7080.15
14070.15
21070.15
28120.15

 If a gentlemen's agreement is established that no CW is condoned above
these frequencies and no RTTY is condoned below these frequencies; please
explain how there can be interference?

Al Zelna, N3KAE



 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Stan Reas
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:14 PM
> To: PaQSO at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [PaQSO] RTTY Interference
> 
> This last weekend was the Virginia QSO Party.
> 
> Per "Scoring" in the rules:
>  QSO's count 1 point per phone, 2 points per CW, 2 points
>  per digital (RTTY, PSK31, etc.), and 3 points per
>  contact made with a Virginia Mobile (Phone or CW or
>  Digital).
> 
> Also under the "Frequencies" in the rules:
>  Digital contacts should use normally accepted subbands
>  for these modes.
> 
> I operated Mobile CW in the QSO Party from 11 Counties and 4 Cities.
> 
> In the evening of both days 40 Meters was made useless due to operation
> of RTTY stations throughout from 7.000 to 7.100 MHz.  Not being able to
> decipher RTTY while running mobile I had thought these stations were
> participating in the VA QSO Party.
> 
> Since then I learned that it probably was the BARTG RTTY contest which
> was causing all the interference thoughout the CW portion of 40 Meters.
> 
> I had to give up my operations on 40 Meters both evenings.
> 
> I don't know whether the proposed rules for the 2006 PA QSO Party will
include
> a statement similar to that in the VA QSO Party rules with regard to PA
> stations
> operating digital to do so in their normally accepted subbands.
> 
> I would suggest that such a statement would be desirable.
> 
> Also if there is a competing RTTY contest during the PA QSO Party weekend,
> you might
> want to consider changing the date to a weekend where there is no RTTY
> contest anywhere
> in the world.
> 
> I still feel it is a VERY POOR idea to give these "digital" modes 2 points
> on all bands.  It
> takes skill to copy CW.  It takes no skill to have a computer copy
> "digital" signals.
> 
> And that's my "two-cents worth"
> 
> 73, Stan - K4UK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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